depression
Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous
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Rescue Remedy is great but there are other drops for grief..Walnut is the one that comes to mind. Go to the Bach website and check. I'm sorry I don't have all the ones here. I haven't followed this thread closely. Try Feliway. It is calming too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Helene Hand To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: depression Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006
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Hi Helene, I haven't ever used Rescue Remedy or Feliway, but many people here think they both work great to reduce stress. Time and your love will be what heals Delilah. Here's to a speedy recovery for her heart. :) Wendy --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thanks, Wendy and MarylynI know lots of love and time is the best.Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: depression Hi Helene, I haven't ever used Rescue Remedy or Feliway, but many people here think they both work great to reduce stress. Time and your love will be what heals Delilah. Here's to a speedy recovery for her heart. :) Wendy --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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helene, as odd as this will sound (like i'm not known for saying odd things, right?), talk to her. explain to her that her friend's departure had nothing to do with her, that she doesn't have to try to take her friend's place in the family, that you love her as much as you ever did, and that you understand and share her sadness. yeah, i know, i know--but somehow, verbalizing things to our cats seems to really help: a communicator explained once that when we put things into words, that sends out the emotional contentrather like images that thecritters can pick up and interpret. i don't know how or why it works, but i'm learned to talk to my cats about everything that's going on that will affect them--when i'm going out of town, when people are coming to visit, when there's a medical procedure/treatment upcoming. i've seen it work time after time--and it certainly can't hurt. (it seemed to have incredible results with cats who found themselves in the unfamiliar world of a shelter cage--letting them know that it was NOT their fault that they were there, that there were sweet and lovable cats made the biggest difference for those who ended up in shelters after the death or their caretaker, or when their humans ended up in nursing homes or places they really were unable to take them--knowing that it wasn't anything that they'd done seemed to help them a lot.) some mourning cats like to have toys and blankies from their departed friends, others will steadfastly refuse to have anything to do with such reminders. creating new rituals of cuddle or play time works well for some; others will insist upon hiding out in places the other cat preferred. i try to follow their lead, making sure that they continue to eat and drink and don't go into a physical decline. (one of my cats reacted to the death of the family matriarch by staying upstairs for 9 months--she'd come downstairs to eat and use the boxes, but would immediately go back upstairs. if i carried her down, she'd go right back up, if you went up to visit her, she was friendly and would cuddle and socialize, she just didn't want to be downstairs!) with cats as with people, everyone grieves differently--and nothing is wrong as long as basic health needs are being met. MC On 7/31/06, Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wendy and MarylynI know lots of love and time is thebest.Helene-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:53 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: depressionHi Helene,I haven't ever used Rescue Remedy or Feliway, but many people here think they both work great to reduce stress.Time and your love will be whatheals Delilah.Here's to a speedy recovery for her heart.:)Wendy--- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions for Delilah, who is still so, so depressed-goes mourning through the house. Lots and lots of love is the most I can do.. I was hoping someone has experience with rescue remedy drops (Bach) from the health food store- or just experience with this awful disruption in her life. Helen Do not stand at my grave and weep; I am not there; I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow; I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain; I am the gentle autumn's rain. When you awake in the morning's hush I am the swift uplifting rush Of quiet birds in circled flight. I am the soft star that shines at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry. I am not there, I did not die. Anonymous__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge listaddition
Bless you Tonya for caring for this injured kitty. And your vet, what a treasure, too. Kitty didn't live but at least did not die in the road. I understand too well how you feel and how depressing life is with the way people mistreat and ignore the precious furkids. Being on the kitty lists helps because we know there are many others who are upset and hurt ... and wonderful people like you who give generously of yourself to help. Del - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge listaddition You know, I LIVE at Walmart. I have thought and thought of boycotting them, even before this. But I went to petsmart today to buy litter and I HATE giving them my business as well when they are selling all of the poor exotic birds being teased by children running around and screaming at them. Thereptiles etc. Where in the h*ll can you shop with a conscience any more? It's all very depressing. And speaking of depressing Yesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again. I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead. It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I "knew" it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street.I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave(they were all going around my car by nowagain). I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible. Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do. I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins inthe cat'stop and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him. Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him "Jaws". ha.) had died last night around 8:00.He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school. Iam just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do. I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animals. It is just so sad and depressing to me all the time. I can't just 'turn it off' and go 'be happy' and 'not think about it'. I feel like "It's Christmas time and I hate the world." Merry Christmas... Maybe this shouldn't beon the list, b
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Everyone,Thank you for your responses. I knew there were people here would understand. We have a girl on a list here trying to give away her 4 cats because she bought a new car! Yes, we checked it out. How selfish can people be. I guess pets are like an old pair of shoes to them. It makes me MAD as much as it makes me depressed.Also, I have over a hundred emails to go through, but hopefully I'll find out some info about the elderly lady caring for all of the cats on a fixed income.tonyaBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheila and all,Keep on writing those letters - to the newspapers too.Bonnie"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens canchange the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."-- Margaret Mead, anthropologist- Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:59 amSubject: Re: Tonya- depression-bridge list additionTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Tonya,I feel exactly the same way. Ever since seeing Larry King my depression has been overwhelming. Maybe I have been wearing blinders but I knew absolutely nothing about this situation and I wish I still knew nothing about it. I know that makes me a coward but I can't help it. I can't even watch the animal shows where the lions run the poor helpless prey down and kill them for food. I can't get the look of fear on the poor babies faces out of my mind. The cruelty in this world is unbelievable. I still can't sleep for the depression. If I could wake up and it would be spring, maybe that would help. All I can do now is write letters, sign petitions and try to get my friends to do the same. Sheila in SC trying to cope. God bless you for your kindness.
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Tonya, thank you for doing what you did for Jaws. He may not have lived but he had a chance. And he died much more peacerfully than if he'd been hit again by another car. You are a hero. And knowing people like you and being reminded of what is really important helps overshadow all the bad we see people do to the animals we are privileged to share this earth with.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya, it so humbles me and honors us all that you did the right - though difficult - thing. But you did the right thing, and demonstrated to all those whizzing cars. It made people think - and maybe next time some one of them will behave differently Most important, you helped the poor injured kitty, the great thing. Thank you for doing the right thing, even though you suffer for it. The world can be a crappy place, but if we keep trying to do the right thing, it makes a lot of difference...Hugs,GloriaAt 07:11 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote:...And speaking of depressingYesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again.I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead.It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I "knew" it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street. I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave (they were all going around my car by now again).I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible.Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do.I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins in the cat's top and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him.Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him "Jaws". ha.) had died last night around 8:00. He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school.I am just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do.I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animals. It is just so sad and depressing to me all the time. I can't just 'turn it off' and go 'be happy' and 'not think about it'.I feel like "It's Christmas time and I hate the world." Merry Christmas...Maybe this shouldn't be on the list, but I would really like to know if others have a hard time handling or balancing your animals and any semblance of a 'normal, happy' life?? I guess it sounds like a 'martyr complex'. I don't know. It just seems like so very few people care about anyone or anything other than themselves.tonyaBONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:PLEASE CROSS POSTForwarded Messag
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Tonya, I am so sorry you were exposed yet again to the idiocy and selfishness of the 2 footers. And I'm so proud of you and so grateful that you stopped for that kitty and took him to a vet. He was given a chance and was able to pass peacefully in a relatively quiet place.The balancing act is a tough one; I'm not going home for the family get-together because Smoky is dealing with his 2nd bout of cystitis in 4 weeks. He's feeling better, but I'm not comfortable leaving him. My mom understands, but my dad doesn't.If it would help, there are pet loss chats every night on www.pethobbyist.com, it's a very safe place to share if you're ready and/or inclined.http://chat.pethobbyist.com/schedule.php?site=catThe chat room is Haven - Pet Loss Support.hugscatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You know, I LIVE at Walmart. I have thought and thought of boycotting them, even before this. But I went to petsmart today to buy litter and I HATE giving them my business as well when they are selling all of the poor exotic birds being teased by children running around and screaming at them. Thereptiles etc.Where in the h*ll can you shop with a conscience any more? It's all very depressing.And speaking of depressingYesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again.I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead.It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I "knew" it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street.I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave(they were all going around my car by nowagain). I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible.Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do.I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins inthe cat'stop and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him.Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him "Jaws". ha.) had died last night around 8:00.He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school. Iam just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do. I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animals. It is just so sad and depressing to me all the time. I can't just 'turn it off' and go 'be happy' and 'not think about it'.I feel like "It's Christmas time and I hate the world." Merry Christmas...Maybe this shouldn't beon the list, but I would really like to know if others have a h
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and, for what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss support chats on Friday, Sunday and Monday nights MC http://chat.pethobbyist.com/schedule.php?site=cat The chat room is Haven - Pet Loss Support. -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Tonya,I feel exactly the same way. Ever since seeing Larry King my depression has been overwhelming. Maybe I have been wearing blinders but I knew absolutely nothing about this situation and I wish I still knew nothing about it. I know that makes me a coward but I can't help it. I can't even watch the animal shows where the lions run the poor helpless prey down and kill them for food. I can't get the look of fear on the poor babies faces out of my mind. The cruelty in this world is unbelievable. I still can't sleep for the depression. If I could wake up and it would be spring, maybe that would help. All I can do now is write letters, sign petitions and try to get my friends to do the same. Sheila in SC trying to cope. God bless you for your kindness.
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In a message dated 12/15/05 11:33:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and, for what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss support chats onFriday, Sunday and Monday nightsMC MC~ That is very good to know. Bless you for doing that. I just posted that you have a beautiful way with words, you must bring comfort to many. Patti
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we certainly hope that we help--we ARE there every night of the year, including holidays On 12/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/15/05 11:33:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and, for what it's worth, i co-host the pet-loss support chats on Friday, Sunday and Monday nightsMC MC~ That is very good to know. Bless you for doing that. I just posted that you have a beautiful way with words, you must bring comfort to many. Patti -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Sheila and all, Keep on writing those letters - to the newspapers too. Bonnie Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead, anthropologist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:59 am Subject: Re: Tonya- depression-bridge list addition To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Tonya,I feel exactly the same way. Ever since seeing Larry King my depression has been overwhelming. Maybe I have been wearing blinders but I knew absolutely nothing about this situation and I wish I still knew nothing about it. I know that makes me a coward but I can't help it. I can't even watch the animal shows where the lions run the poor helpless prey down and kill them for food. I can't get the look of fear on the poor babies faces out of my mind. The cruelty in this world is unbelievable. I still can't sleep for the depression. If I could wake up and it would be spring, maybe that would help. All I can do now is write letters, sign petitions and try to get my friends to do the same. Sheila in SC trying to cope. God bless you for your kindness.
Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge list addition
You know, I LIVE at Walmart. I have thought and thought of boycotting them, even before this. But I went to petsmart today to buy litter and I HATE giving them my business as well when they are selling all of the poor exotic birds being teased by children running around and screaming at them. Thereptiles etc.Where in the h*ll can you shop with a conscience any more? It's all very depressing.And speaking of depressingYesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again.I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead.It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I "knew" it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street.I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave(they were all going around my car by nowagain). I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible.Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do.I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins inthe cat'stop and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him.Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him "Jaws". ha.) had died last night around 8:00.He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school. Iam just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do. I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animals. It is just so sad and depressing to me all the time. I can't just 'turn it off' and go 'be happy' and 'not think about it'.I feel like "It's Christmas time and I hate the world." Merry Christmas...Maybe this shouldn't beon the list, but I would really like to know if others have a hard time handling or balancing youranimals and any semblance of a 'normal, happy' life?? I guess it sounds like a 'martyr complex'. I don't know. It just seems like so very few people care about anyone or anything other than themselves.tonyaBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE CROSS POSTForwarded Message:Subj: LETTER - China's Dog/Cat Fur Markets Date: 12/10/2005 8:35:57 PM Eastern Standard TimeFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent from the Internet (Details)
Re: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge list addition
catatonya wrote: Maybe this shouldn't be on the list, but I would really like to know if others have a hard time handling or balancing your animals and any semblance of a 'normal, happy' life?? I guess it sounds like a 'martyr complex'. I don't know. It just seems like so very few people care about anyone or anything other than themselves. Tonya... My animals that I have are my happy normal life. I've got four rescues, three equine and one kitty. I've got a happy, healthy group of ferals that moved in the barn where I board. Even though it's depressing to realize the grand scheme of things I'm doing the best I can by the animals I'm in contact with. One of the reasons I'm still single is I'd quite honestly rather be with my animals as another person. If I ever find someone he'd best be an animal person, because I've seen that it won't work without that! :P No, other people don't care about others or their animals. Even though it hurts to care, and people thing I'm rather odd, I can't imagine being one of those selfish SOBs that don't care about other people or animals. I talk nicer to my car than they do to their families! Steph
Re: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge listaddition
Geez, Tonya -- how awful. Living in Jersey where I do, I see lots of animals on the side of the road: cats and deer mostly. But occasionally there are dogs, geese, and other rodents (possum, raccoons, etc.). I makes me sick the way people just plow into these poor creatures without a thought to stop and move it out of the road. Jaws will be waiting for you at the Bridge. Poor baby. Hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Jaws... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge listaddition You know, I LIVE at Walmart. I have thought and thought of boycotting them, even before this. But I went to petsmart today to buy litter and I HATE giving them my business as well when they are selling all of the poor exotic birds being teased by children running around and screaming at them. Thereptiles etc. Where in the h*ll can you shop with a conscience any more? It's all very depressing. And speaking of depressing Yesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again. I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead. It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I "knew" it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street.I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave(they were all going around my car by nowagain). I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible. Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do. I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins inthe cat'stop and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him. Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him "Jaws". ha.) had died last night around 8:00.He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school. Iam just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do. I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animal
Re: Chinese cat/dog fur-shopping for our pets?- depression-bridge list addition
Tonya, it so humbles me and honors us all that you did the right - though difficult - thing. But you did the right thing, and demonstrated to all those whizzing cars. It made people think - and maybe next time some one of them will behave differently Most important, you helped the poor injured kitty, the great thing. Thank you for doing the right thing, even though you suffer for it. The world can be a crappy place, but if we keep trying to do the right thing, it makes a lot of difference... Hugs, Gloria At 07:11 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: ... And speaking of depressing Yesterday about a quarter of a mile from my school I saw a cat writhing in pain and bleeding in the middle of the road with cars just driving around it! It had obviously just been hit or it would have already been hit again. I stopped traffic (because I'm sure if I had pulled over people would have just driven around me and run over the cat again) and got out of the car and ran to the cat. It was crying and I was afraid really to pick it up that I might be bitten. But I didn't have much of a choice, so I picked up the cat and carried it to the other side of the road and laid it in the grass. It went limp, and I thought it was dead. It was bleeding horribly from its mouth and head. I knew it wasn't going to make it until I could get it to a vet, but I felt his heart beating steadily and he was still breathing... So I picked him up and fought the traffic back across the street. I mean with the bleeding cat in my arms--trying to cross the street--- people didn't want to stop and let me cross! I had to basically force people to let me back into traffic when I got in the car to leave (they were all going around my car by now again). I put on my flashers, I blew my horn. People would not let me pass, and it took forever to go about 2 miles to the nearest vet. I got the cat to the nearest vet who was luckily open. He's someone I know, luckily. I told them to please get the doctor to euthanize the cat. I couldn't believe he was still alive! It was just terrible. Well, the doctor came in and started checking him and said he thought he could help him. He said he had bitten his tongue and that was what had caused all of the blood. He was in shock, had a concussion. But the doctor said his heart and lungs sounded ok and he would see what he could do. I left the cat there and went to work. I wanted to go home after all of that, and had a bad cold and didn't feel well anyway. But there were no subs so I was told to stay. I called back later and the doctor had put pins in the cat's top and bottom jaws which were both broken. He had a ruptured ear drum and concussion. He had inserted a feeding tube, but said he was hanging in there. He felt if he could get him stabilized with the feeding tube he could save him. (All without charging me! He's a nice guy. That's the ONE good thing from this story.) He said things were looking good so far and they were taking good care of him. Anyway, today I called and they said the cat (they had named him Jaws. ha.) had died last night around 8:00. He was a gray tabby with a few brown markings and white feet. Very handsome. Now I feel guilty because I didn't stop after work and visit the cat again yesterday because I felt sick and just wanted to go home. A lot of my co-workers did say 'how awful' or they were sorry, or whatever, but they were just appalled that I decided I didn't want to go to the Christmas party after school. I am just so MAD about the whole thing. I don't know what kind of world we live in that people treat animals so horribly and people are so uncaring. I don't see how anyone who is the least bit aware of the suffering doesn't suffer from depression like I do. I feel like many people on this list understand me better than my friends and family. How DO you deal with the daily emails of animals being gassed in overcrowded shelters, people dumping their pets, people abusing animals. It is just so sad and depressing to me all the time. I can't just 'turn it off' and go 'be happy' and 'not think about it'. I feel like It's Christmas time and I hate the world. Merry Christmas... Maybe this shouldn't be on the list, but I would really like to know if others have a hard time handling or balancing your animals and any semblance of a 'normal, happy' life?? I guess it sounds like a 'martyr complex'. I don't know. It just seems like so very few people care about anyone or anything other than themselves. tonya BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE CROSS POST Forwarded Message: Subj: LETTER - China's Dog/Cat Fur Markets Date: 12/10/2005 8:35:57 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details)
