filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. OK, I give - help appreciated. Thanks
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
What computer and software are you using with SilverFast. I had to go to their website and download a new program for it to work on my Mac with PS 6.01 John in Okc - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:45 AM Subject: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner : Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed : Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. : : OK, I give - help appreciated. : : Thanks
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
Compaq PII 450 Windows 98. Strange, Polarcolor works fine, software appears to be there, shows up in Photoshop - scanner carrier moves - but thats all.
RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Yeah, I don't get this tough saturation issue in vuescan. I am a total newbie, with several scanning and PhotoShop books are on the way. I just bought a Canon FS4000 to digitize my shoebox and purchased Vuescan as the canon plugin is totally worthless (at least for batch scanning). Although for scanning one picture, it does a better job. From reading the posts here, I understand Silverfast may be a better choice, but that point is moot, as they don't support the Canon FS4000. I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested. Any advice/explanations on what I might be doing wrong would be appreciated. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Womack Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:47 PM To: Majordomo leben.com Subject: re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available No, no, that's way too basic an answer, all but the most novice of us know how to use Gamma, but brightness had a more pronounced effect on shadows than gamma does without the side effect of over brighting the top half of the image range. Also playing with Gamma + drops saturation which makes it necessary to pull drastic curves in Photoshop, the brightness allowed a bit of better finese. So I often have white point at .001 and black point at .1 with maximum as my crop, there is VERY little room at the top side of the data for it to get brighter. Saturation is always tough in vuescan. alan What type of adjustment in gamma and the white point % do you suggest for mimicing the effect of Brightness from Vuescan 7.1.16? Adjust gamma downwards to decrease brightness, and upwards to increase brightness. Regards, Ed Hamrick Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast problem
Hi Martin: Was the scan sharp using he Polacolor software without any scanner sharpening on? -Andy Darlow Scans I made using Vuescan with my new SS 4000, after much assistance from members of this forum, were crisp, sharp, and had colors that were very close to my slides. I liked the Silverfast interface, felt it was visually most attractive and liked the sophistication of its controls. But, I was unable to get a crisp, sharp scan. Scans simply did not look sharp. On my Mac G4, I used version 5 and also downloaded and tried the trial version of 5.5. I faithfully used Ian lyons tutorial to set it up. I found it strange that I couldn't get a sharp scan. I very much would have liked to, and don't understand why I couldn't. Perhaps, I'm doing something wrong? I'd appreciate any suggestions for overcoming the difficulty I encountered. Let me know if additional information would help. Martin --
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
Have you gone to their website? There is a lot of info there. http://www.silverfast.com/ John in Okc
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
on 9/30/01 9:00 AM PST, JackG wrote: I just recieved the Poloraid 4000 and am trying to decide from reading the messages which would be best for a novice like me, the Poloraid, VueScan or the Silverfast. Of course the Poloraid and SilverFast came with the scanner, but $40.00 for the VueScan is a very fair price for software that works well. John in OKC- First thing I would is to calibrate the ss4000 using supplied target. Print out the documentation from Silverfast on doing the calibration. Also visit Ian Lyon's site and print out his documentation on doing the calibration. Read through both of them a few times. Between those two sources, you should be OK in doing the process, even though some steps are not crystal clear. If you have trouble, forget it, and go right to using Polacolor. For your first scans, only use well exposed slides. Polacolor is easy to use, and should deliver you good scans right from the get go. Truly, a few clicks and you're there. Once you've gotten comfortable with Polacolor, and scanning slides, only then would I recommend learning Silverfast. It has WAY more tools than you'll need for now, and the documentation is lousy (the PDF I downloaded doesn't even show you the button for ejecting film!) Or if you have negs, Vuescan is definitely worth it. But please get comfortable with slides first. You'll be happier. Have fun, David Corwin
filmscanners: Sprintscan/Vuescan/Negs
Hello! Brand new member to the list here. Y'all seem neat smart and all that... :) I'm having a bit of a problem with my SS4000 and Vuescan and negatives that I'm hoping someone can help with. I've been on enough lists to know that my question has probably been asked answered 100 times, but... :) I normally shoot RDPIII and scan with the hardware/software above, and have been very happy with the combination. Great color, saturation, contrast, etc. Yesterday I was experimenting with fill flash (still haven't gotten it completely down yet) and decided to go w/neg film for it's extra latitude. Kodak Royal Gold 100, to be exact. A bit contrasty, but I like it. The scans coming out of the SS and Vuescan are horrible! Extremely cyan, dark and flat. I've tried tweaking just about every setting in Vuescan to no avail. I can, for the most part, correct the final scans in Photoshop, but am thinking that I'd be better off starting with a scan that was much closer to what it's supposed to be. Thinking initially that this was a hardware problem (burned out or weak lamp), I tried one of my standard RDP trannies and the results were as good as ever. This eliminated the hardware issue... Is this a common problem? I can scan negs on the Scan Dual II and the dreaded ES-10S and have decent output, but the SS (which is the best scanner I've used to date) seems to almost ignore the neg masking. Any ideas or do this, you silly guy comments? TIA! Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
John, I have no experience with the SilverFast software but absolutely LOVE Vuescan for trannies, at least. I'm an experienced scanner but new to the SS4000 myself. I've spent $40 on far less useful things. :) Hamrick software has a full featured demo you can d/l from www.hamrick.com that you can try. Paying for registering the software will get rid of the diagonal lines the demo puts on the output. Good for a test drive before you buy. HTH -- Dave I just recieved the Poloraid 4000 and am trying to decide from reading the messages which would be best for a novice like me, the Poloraid, VueScan or the Silverfast. Of course the Poloraid and SilverFast came with the scanner, but $40.00 for the VueScan is a very fair price for software that works well. Thanks, John in OKC
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
When you installed Silverfast, did you install it into Photoshop? Did you upgrade your Silverfast to the latest drivers, prior to 5.5 because the Silverfast requires an update to work with PS 6.0.1 Hope this helps. Owen Owen P. Evans Osgoode, Ontario. Canada (near our nation's capital; Ottawa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] J.33-3 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. OK, I give - help appreciated. Thanks
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Thanks David
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Download Vuescan for a trial run - it's the full program but inserts a watermark unless and until you decide you like it and buy it. I don't think any of us can tell you what will work best for you - we each have our own ways of working and preferred software. Maris - Original Message - From: JackG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: filmscanners: Best scanner software | Good Morning, | | I realize this may be like asking which is better, a Ford or a Chevrolet. | | I just recieved the Poloraid 4000 and am trying to decide from reading the | messages which would be best for a novice like me, the Poloraid, VueScan or | the Silverfast. Of course the Poloraid and SilverFast came with the scanner, | but $40.00 for the VueScan is a very fair price for software that works | well. | | Thanks, | | John in OKC | | |
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Vuescan is designed this way - it's designed to capture ALL possible detail in the shadows and highlights, so the resulting image will be bland. It's left to PhotoShop or your preferred image editing program to do all end-clipping that you wish, and adjust the colors and luminance for rich colors. Maris - Original Message - From: Mark Van Buskirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available [snipped] | I've played | with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to | get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had | the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around | that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested.
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
In a message dated 9/30/2001 9:38:01 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested. The trick is to first experiment with Color|White point (%) and Color|Black point (%) options, then the the Color|Gamma option. Regards, Ed Hamrick
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
At 08:45 AM 9/30/01 -0400, you wrote: Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. OK, I give - help appreciated. Thanks I had the same problem. Polacolor installs the drivers for the scanner. I uninstalled Polacolor, rebooted, then installed Silverfast, and all was happy. Make sure when you look in Control Panel/System that the SS4000 is defined. Gerry Kaslowski
RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Hi guys and girls. I'm new member (just signed in) starting to get sucked into film scanning world. Though having quite extensive photography experience (an long-term membership in Minolta Mailing List) I'm quite novice in the world of film scanners. Just recently bringing over 800 slides from my last vacation in Europe, I stumbled in the problem if scanning to create slide shows. I started to investigate an offers on the market and specifications (no problem with that - have an engineering background in electronics) so narrowed my choices to 2800 dpi resolution or upper (up to 4000 dpi). Currently I see several choices: Nikon CoolScan IV ED, Minolta Elite (or Elite II being released now) for 2900 and 2820 dpi resolutions respectively or Polaroid 4000 and Nikon CoolScan 4000ED (which is actually out of my budget even for the future :-( ). I realize all of them have buggy software causing troubles sometimes, but fortunately for most of them there are separate independent software available (like SilverFast or VueScan). Price/performance is on the side of Polaroid of course and I read many quite favorable tests and reviews for this unit, but I'm struggle about ICE featuring. Have to admit my slides cannot be considered as sterile, usually gathering some dust and sometimes scratched due to poor handling by labs (even those claimed to be really professional, so that priced... ), so probably ICE would be quite useful for me, but then resolution/feature trade-off should be made... I would be glad to hear hands-on opinions about Polaroid 4000, do you really satisfied with it's performance ? How much tweaking does it demand generally after scanning to achieve quality results suitable for real enlargements and printing (postprocessing) ? Does it have batch scanning capability ? BTW, do you think 2800-2900 dpi is good enough for quality A3 sized print (about 260-270 dpi and that size) or 4000 dpi would gain quality noticeably ? I intend to use it on PC system. Any opinion is welcomed. Regards, Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software John, I have no experience with the SilverFast software but absolutely LOVE Vuescan for trannies, at least. I'm an experienced scanner but new to the SS4000 myself. I've spent $40 on far less useful things. :) Hamrick software has a full featured demo you can d/l from www.hamrick.com that you can try. Paying for registering the software will get rid of the diagonal lines the demo puts on the output. Good for a test drive before you buy. HTH -- Dave I just recieved the Poloraid 4000 and am trying to decide from reading the messages which would be best for a novice like me, the Poloraid, VueScan or the Silverfast. Of course the Poloraid and SilverFast came with the scanner, but $40.00 for the VueScan is a very fair price for software that works well. Thanks, John in OKC
RE: filmscanners: SilverFast Upgrade Disaster
Has SiverFast come out with a fix to the Upgrade Disaster? I have a Wintel system (PIV 1.4g, Win2k, lots of hard drive space). I held off upgrading when I heard of all the problems, be they installation, IT8 Calibration, etc. Thanks, John John Hayward Hopkins Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 41 10.7N 073 23.2W
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
I take it from your comment that Insight does not have provision for IT-8 calibration. Does it at least have provision for using the profile made with Silverfast? What I want in a scanner software is the ability to set endpoints, get essentially the same tone/color balance as the original (profile comes in here), and high bit output. I'm another one who prefers doing final edits on high bit files in PS. Dave King - Original Message - From: David Corwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] First thing I would is to calibrate the ss4000 using supplied target. Print out the documentation from Silverfast on doing the calibration. Also visit Ian Lyon's site and print out his documentation on doing the calibration. Read through both of them a few times. Between those two sources, you should be OK in doing the process, even though some steps are not crystal clear. If you have trouble, forget it, and go right to using Polacolor. For your first scans, only use well exposed slides. Polacolor is easy to use, and should deliver you good scans right from the get go. Truly, a few clicks and you're there. Once you've gotten comfortable with Polacolor, and scanning slides, only then would I recommend learning Silverfast. It has WAY more tools than you'll need for now, and the documentation is lousy (the PDF I downloaded doesn't even show you the button for ejecting film!) Or if you have negs, Vuescan is definitely worth it. But please get comfortable with slides first. You'll be happier. Have fun, David Corwin
RE: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
I too have had this problem, but it was not so easily solved. In the end, I had to start Windows in Safe mode and remove all the scanner drivers and re-install them. Without doing it in safe mode it seemed to keep adding scanner drivers! Using Safe mode was the trick! --- Gregory Georges Really Useful Content, Inc. Chapel Hill, North Carolina www.reallyusefulpage.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerry Kaslowski Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner At 08:45 AM 9/30/01 -0400, you wrote: Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. OK, I give - help appreciated. Thanks I had the same problem. Polacolor installs the drivers for the scanner. I uninstalled Polacolor, rebooted, then installed Silverfast, and all was happy. Make sure when you look in Control Panel/System that the SS4000 is defined. Gerry Kaslowski
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
OK, have taken Polarcolor out - new message Error in Scan Start - Cannot start scanner. However, the carrier is moving ? Any thoughts?
filmscanners: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS
Title: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS -- From: peter.phipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:40:56 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS Has anybody any results from using a high quality digital camera in a slide copier to make an instant digital image? It occurs to me that using a digital back on a hasselblad would work rather well
Re: filmscanners: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS
I've seen the results using a one megapixel Kodak DC260 consumer camera and was pleasantly surprised. I would guess the results with the hasselblad would be excellent. Tom Has anybody any results from using a high quality digital camera in a slide copier to make an instant digital image? It occurs to me that using a digital back on a hasselblad would work rather well
RE: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
Be sure to do the following: 1. Go to http://www.silverfast.com/silverfast/updates/upd-v5pc-en.html and download the 5.2.1.r00 upgrade. 2. Be sure to save a copy of your invoice as you will be able to upgrade to 5.5 for a very reasonable charge if you purchased the scanner after September 1, 2001. 3. If you are on a PC there is a utility in the Insight folder to install STI. I am at home now so I don't remember the exact name but if you go to start'. 'programs' and insight you will see it. You will need this to use firewire and in some cases Silverfast requires it. This should fix the problem. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner Just purchased Polariod 4000. Installed Polarcolor and it works, installed Silverfast and software says Error - Cant find scanner. OK, I give - help appreciated. Thanks
LS4000 comments, was RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
At 8:38 PM +0200 30-9-01, Alex Z wrote: Currently I see several choices: Nikon CoolScan IV ED, Minolta Elite (or Elite II being released now) for 2900 and 2820 dpi resolutions respectively or Polaroid 4000 and Nikon CoolScan 4000ED (which is actually out of my budget even for the future :-( ). BF: The CoolScan IV uses the same software as the CoolScan 4000 ED. It's very slow on my 500MHz G3 PowerMac, but generally I like it's features. BF: The good thing about the CoolScan 4000 ED is that it has GEM to remove grain. The bad thing is that you really need it! Grain isn't too bad on Kodachrome 64 scans, but very bad on Kodak Gold 200 scans. Don't know if the Coolscan IV is as bad at bringing out the grain. Price/performance is on the side of Polaroid of course and I read many quite favorable tests and reviews for this unit, but I'm struggle about ICE featuring. ... probably ICE would be quite useful for me, but then resolution/feature trade-off should be made... BF: I have one image (Kodak Gold 200) where ICE and GEM did an incredible job of removing scratches and grain with no visible reduction in sharpness. I have another image (Kodachrome 64) where ICE and GEM made the entire image VERY soft. So apparently they can work for you or against you depending on the image and/or film. BTW, do you think 2800-2900 dpi is good enough for quality A3 sized print (about 260-270 dpi and that size) BF: yes it's good enough. or 4000 dpi would gain quality noticeably ? BF: yes you'll notice a difference. -- == Bill Fernandez * User Interface Architect * Bill Fernandez Design (505) 346-3080 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://billfernandez.com ==
filmscanners: Re: Insight Calibration, WAS: Best scanner software
on 9/30/01 12:01 PM PST, Dave King wrote: I take it from your comment that Insight does not have provision for IT-8 calibration. Does it at least have provision for using the profile made with Silverfast? This is the same question that I have been meaning to pose to David H. or anyone who can answer it- When you hit preview using Insight 4.5, the SS4000 goes through it's warm-ups, and a Progress bar comes up saying calibrating. Is the hardware being calibrated each time you hit preview? What is Insight calibrating to? Assuming it's not to the Silverfast IT8 target, how does one (or can one) apply the profile generated by the Silverfast IT8 target? David Corwin From: David Corwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] First thing I would is to calibrate the ss4000 using supplied target. Print out the documentation from Silverfast on doing the calibration. Also visit Ian Lyon's site and print out his documentation on doing the calibration. Read through both of them a few times. Between those two sources, you should be OK in doing the process, even though some steps are not crystal clear.
Re: filmscanners: SilverFast Upgrade Disaster
In a message dated 9/30/2001 11:40:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has SiverFast come out with a fix to the ‘Upgrade Disaster’? I have a Wintel system (PIV 1.4g, Win2k, lots of hard drive space). I held off upgrading when I heard of all the problems, be they installation, IT8 Calibration, etc. Thanks, John By and large, I think they have solved the serial number problems they had when they first announced the 5.5 upgrade. It's still a problem every now and then, but not like it used to be. The IT8 calibration problem (software says you haven't cropped the IT8 slide properly, even though you have, and calibration stops) is still a problem for some people, but not for most people. My problem was cured with the 5.5 upgrade, but I don't know that that would work for everyone. It did for me. If you already are already using SilverFast, the 5.5 upgrade should work now worse than what you're using right now and would provide the NegaFix feature which really does help with scanning color negatives. However, SilverFast is still buggy and hard to use. For me, SilverFast Ai crashes with large files (500 mb). Also, the prescan crop box doesn't agree with what actually gets scanned. SilverFast is still a work in progress.
RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Polacolor insight includes a profile for the scanner. The profile describes the color characteristics of the scanner, the film (chrome) being scanned is not relevant. David -Original Message- From: Dave King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software I take it from your comment that Insight does not have provision for IT-8 calibration. Does it at least have provision for using the profile made with Silverfast? What I want in a scanner software is the ability to set endpoints, get essentially the same tone/color balance as the original (profile comes in here), and high bit output. I'm another one who prefers doing final edits on high bit files in PS. Dave King - Original Message - From: David Corwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] First thing I would is to calibrate the ss4000 using supplied target. Print out the documentation from Silverfast on doing the calibration. Also visit Ian Lyon's site and print out his documentation on doing the calibration. Read through both of them a few times. Between those two sources, you should be OK in doing the process, even though some steps are not crystal clear. If you have trouble, forget it, and go right to using Polacolor. For your first scans, only use well exposed slides. Polacolor is easy to use, and should deliver you good scans right from the get go. Truly, a few clicks and you're there. Once you've gotten comfortable with Polacolor, and scanning slides, only then would I recommend learning Silverfast. It has WAY more tools than you'll need for now, and the documentation is lousy (the PDF I downloaded doesn't even show you the button for ejecting film!) Or if you have negs, Vuescan is definitely worth it. But please get comfortable with slides first. You'll be happier. Have fun, David Corwin
RE: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner
You need Polacolor installed for Silverfast to run. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner OK, have taken Polarcolor out - new message Error in Scan Start - Cannot start scanner. However, the carrier is moving ? Any thoughts?
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
I'd also recommend trying Polaroid Insight first, and I agree with David's other comments shown here, as well. If you think you need the power of SilverFast, then make sure you upgrade to version 5.5 if you scan color negatives Version 5.5 gives you something called NegaFix and it's really needed for scanning color negatives. In a message dated 9/30/2001 9:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 9/30/01 9:00 AM PST, JackG wrote: I just recieved the Poloraid 4000 and am trying to decide from reading the messages which would be best for a novice like me, the Poloraid, VueScan or the Silverfast. Of course the Poloraid and SilverFast came with the scanner, but $40.00 for the VueScan is a very fair price for software that works well. John in OKC- Once you've gotten comfortable with Polacolor, and scanning slides, only then would I recommend learning Silverfast. It has WAY more tools than you'll need for now, and the documentation is lousy (the PDF I downloaded doesn't even show you the button for ejecting film!) Or if you have negs, Vuescan is definitely worth it. Have fun, David Corwin
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Alex Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, do you think 2800-2900 dpi is good enough for quality A3 sized print (about 260-270 dpi and that size) or 4000 dpi would gain quality noticeably ? I've made nice A3 prints on my Epson 1160 using scans at 2700dpi with a Nikon LS30. Scans on a SS4000 look bigger, but I'm not convinced that there's a lot more detail in them. I generally scan with Vuescan, and *always* use Infra-red cleaning. Infra-red cleaning saves hours of spotting. Dust and scratches are less obvious in SS4000 scans, so there's less spotting anyway. Rob
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Mark Van Buskirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but that point is moot, as they don't support the Canon FS4000. I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. Unless the story has changed, AIUI the purpose of Vuescan was to get the most data out of the scanner and into a file which can then be tweaked in Photoshop. If you're expecting the output from Vuescan to already be the finished product I think you'll be disappointed. I find that doing a quick levels adjustment usually brings the colour to where it should be. Rob
Re: LS4000 comments, was RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
Bill Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reduction in sharpness. I have another image (Kodachrome 64) where ICE and GEM made the entire image VERY soft. So apparently they can work for you or against you depending on the image and/or film. Try Vuescan on the same slide. The IR cleaning in Vuescan seems to work a lot better with Kodachrome than ICE. However YMMV. The combination of Kodachrome and IR cleaning is a known issue - the image is not as transparent to IR as in C41 films or most Ektachrome films. IR cleaning doesn't work on silver based BW films but works very well on C41 BW films like T400CN. Rob
Re: filmscanners: Sprintscan/Vuescan/Negs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a common problem? I can scan negs on the Scan Dual II and the dreaded ES-10S and have decent output, but the SS (which is the best scanner I've used to date) seems to almost ignore the neg masking. Try including part of the mask in the scan area and see if that helps. Rob
Re: filmscanners: Silverfast problem
Andy No, the scan was not sharp using polacolor software without any scanner sharpening on. It lacked sharpness in both Polacolor and Silverscan, both used without sharpening as I prefer to sharpen using Nik Sharpener Pro in Photoshop. Martin on 9/29/01 6:48 AM, Andy Darlow at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martin: Was the scan sharp using he Polacolor software without any scanner sharpening on? -Andy Darlow Scans I made using Vuescan with my new SS 4000, after much assistance from members of this forum, were crisp, sharp, and had colors that were very close to my slides. I liked the Silverfast interface, felt it was visually most attractive and liked the sophistication of its controls. But, I was unable to get a crisp, sharp scan. Scans simply did not look sharp. On my Mac G4, I used version 5 and also downloaded and tried the trial version of 5.5. I faithfully used Ian lyons tutorial to set it up. I found it strange that I couldn't get a sharp scan. I very much would have liked to, and don't understand why I couldn't. Perhaps, I'm doing something wrong? I'd appreciate any suggestions for overcoming the difficulty I encountered. Let me know if additional information would help. Martin
Re: filmscanners: Was: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner Now: discount upgrade
Regarding #2 below, is $45 the reasonable charge you refer to? Is there another way to order the upgrade with a purchase after 9/1? Thanks, Stephen - Original Message - From: Hemingway, David J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner Be sure to do the following: 1. Go to http://www.silverfast.com/silverfast/updates/upd-v5pc-en.html and download the 5.2.1.r00 upgrade. 2. Be sure to save a copy of your invoice as you will be able to upgrade to 5.5 for a very reasonable charge if you purchased the scanner after September 1, 2001. 3. If you are on a PC there is a utility in the Insight folder to install STI. I am at home now so I don't remember the exact name but if you go to start'. 'programs' and insight you will see it. You will need this to use firewire and in some cases Silverfast requires it. This should fix the problem. David
Re: LS4000 comments, was RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
At 8:38 PM +0200 30-9-01, Alex Z wrote: Currently I see several choices: Nikon CoolScan IV ED, Minolta Elite (or Elite II being released now) for 2900 and 2820 dpi resolutions respectively or Polaroid 4000 and Nikon CoolScan 4000ED (which is actually out of my budget even for the future :-( ). BF: The CoolScan IV uses the same software as the CoolScan 4000 ED. It's very slow on my 500MHz G3 PowerMac, but generally I like it's features. I have a 233MHz G3 with 640 MB. My CoolScan IV is fast. I turn off GEM ICE during preview which dramatically speeds up previews, exposure (Master Gain) and curve redraws. I especially love the batch scan feature which allows optimizing each frame before starting final scan. . BF: The good thing about the CoolScan 4000 ED is that it has GEM to remove grain. The bad thing is that you really need it! Grain isn't too bad on Kodachrome 64 scans, but very bad on Kodak Gold 200 scans. Don't know if the Coolscan IV is as bad at bringing out the grain. Same for Kodak Max 400 on the IV (fixed with GEM /or ICE). Ektachrome (200 or 400?) and Kodachrome 64 have low grain . BF: I have one image (Kodak Gold 200) where ICE and GEM did an incredible job of removing scratches and grain with no visible reduction in sharpness. I have another image (Kodachrome 64) where ICE and GEM made the entire image VERY soft. So apparently they can work for you or against you depending on the image and/or film. I've had excellent results with GEM on Kodachrome 64, but results with ICE vary from batch to batch. Mike Duncan
Re: filmscanners: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS
Title: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS I have copies of a friend's results using an modest 2yr old Sony consumer digital camera on a 6x6 Hasselblad slide, and they're excellent, so I expect an upmarket digital camera on a 35mm slide would be pretty good. As usual, it depends how fussy you are. Alan T - Original Message - From: peter.phipp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:43 PM Subject: filmscanners: FW: DIGITAL CAMERA SCANS Has anybody any results from using a high quality digital camera in a slide copier to make an instant digital image? It occurs to me that using a digital back on a hasselblad would work rather well
Re: filmscanners: Best scanner software
BTW, do you think 2800-2900 dpi is good enough for quality A3 sized print (about 260-270 dpi and that size) Yes, if it's an inkjet print, because the printer resolution is less than this (approx 200dpi sent to the printer). But remember you may wish to crop a frame, and still print at A3, so you might need more pixels. OTOH, it depends on what you mean by 'quality A3'. If you mean something against which, after cropping and printing with less than 200ppi, keen amateur photographers will press their noses and loupes and be hypercritical, the answer is no. If you mean something that will impress less critical friends and relations when hung over the fireplace and viewed from several metres away, you can go much bigger than A3 (at least A2) with 2700 ppi and still have satisfied customers. Regards, good luck, and have lots of fun, Alan T - Original Message - From: Alex Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Best scanner software
SS4000 : Polacolor vs. Silverfast (was Re: filmscanners: Bestscanner software)
Silverfast 5 AI known bug: To all SS4000/Silverfast 5 users: Be sure you are running the latest patch for version 5 which fixes a major CMS options bug. The desired patch is not necessarily V5.5 which is not a bug fix release and for which Laser Soft is charging a fee. I got patch V5.2.0 r05. Laser Soft makes getting their patches a pain in the ass by requiring registration, mailing usernames and passwords to download patches, and insisting on CD verification. These folks are real stiffs. I had dink around for a half hour or more to get the patch and install it. For example, you'll need the release CD mounted (on Mac anyway) to use the update, but it doesn't inform you of this until after you've installed the update and loaded the software using Photoshop. Polacolor vs. Silverfast: Having had a chance to work with both Polacolor Insight (V5.0.3) and Silverfast (V5.2.0 r05) for a week, I notice that Silverfast delivers color that's no better than Polacolor and without calibration Silverfast output is much worse. This became apparent to me while comparing scans of an IT8 Q60. When uncalibrated, Silverfast yields scans that are overly dark, dreadfully under saturated, blue in the highlights and mid tones, and magenta in the shadows. No amount of Photoshop tweaking allowed me to overcome the saturation deficit. Levels and curves can overcome the casts but the image is still dull. Calibration provided a significant improvement in saturation, but output still shows much too dark, with a cyan cast in the highlights and a yellow/red cast in the mid tones and shadows. Polacolor scans (using zeroed settings) look much better to me than calibrated Silverfast scans. Polacolor output is more saturated, and much closer match to the IT8 as viewed on a light box. Monaco EZ Color 2 doesn't accept Silverast 5 AI Scans: I can't get Monaco EZ Color 2 to build a scanner profile from uncalibrated scans made by Silverfast. I've been careful to consider interactions between Silverfast controls and EZ Color 2. EZ Color reports that there is an unknown problem with the Silverfast scans. Maybe this is due to the poor saturation of uncalibrated scans. I haven't tried Monaco EZ Color on a calibrated scan. I'm not going to go there for now. Please note that I've also had trouble getting EZ Color to accept HP 7400C IT8 scans, so this is not just a Silverfast issue. In the case of the HP, I was able to overcome EZ Colors objection by tweaking the scan using the HP drivers controls. I have not had the same luck with Solverfast. OTOH, EZ Color 2 works fine with Polacolor Insight scans and produces profiles that result in images that I find improved over what I obtain with the Polacolor alone. Polacolor HDR: An FYI for those who have wondered about HDR: The point of this software is to decouple the task of making a scan from the task of performing color correction. It doesn't play well with Photoshop, as you might hope. Ostensibly, the point of HDR is to permit a naïve scanner operator collect the hi-bit data from the scanner into files, while another more skilled operator operates the complex Silverfast UI to color correct. In other words, imagine breaking a scanning task into two parts: 1) get the raw data from the scanner saved as files, and 2) process and color correct the data. The HDR version of Silverfast simply opens previously saved hi-bit data and treats it as if it has just come right from the scanner. Unfortunately, the data saved during step-1 is truly raw, with coding so far away from what most users expect that using Photoshop to bring it into a typical RGB working space will be well beyond most users skills. I think the Silverfast software is close to being an anachronism: its value is rooted in being a capable center of a color correction workflow for graphic arts industry style prepress shops. This is decreasing in importance in the graphic arts industry as color systems are become more modular, and Silverfast's orientation is totally askew for photographers using Mac/PC digital imaging systems. If the results of Silverfast were superior for photographers, its idiosyncrasies would be tolerable, but I find that Polaroid's driver, though sort of crude and incomprehensible in terms of color management, yields better color than Silverfast. Still haven't yet tried Vuescan with the SS4000... Wire
Re: filmscanners: Was: Silverfast Help- Cant find Scanner Now: discount upgr...
In a message dated 9/30/2001 5:32:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding #2 below, is $45 the "reasonable charge" you refer to? Is there another way to order the upgrade with a purchase after 9/1? Thanks, Stephen If you bought the Polaroid scanner just before September 1, as I did, then it would cost $90 to upgrade SilverFast to the current 5.5 version. They charge $45 to upgrade SilverFast Ai and another $45 to upgrade SilverFast HDR, both of which come with the scanner. If you buy the scanner after September 1, you can upgrade SilverFast to version 5.5 at a reduced cost. I assume they'll upgrade both Ai and HDR at the same time for a a single price, probably $45 (I'm guessing on the price). But you don't really need to upgrade Ai if you don't want to. You can only upgrade HDR. Then do raw scans with either SilverFast Ai or Polaroid Insight and you can process the scans with the upgraded SilverFast HDR with all of the latest bells and whistles. I suspect that Lasersoft realizes few Polaroid users wouldn't upgrade both Ai and HDR for $90 since you really don't have to upgrade both. By the way, I have two different Polaroid scanners. Lasersoft wanted me to pay $45 to upgrade Ai for each scanner and $45 to upgrade HDR (it's not scanner specific as it works only with raw files), for a total of $135. I bitched about that, and some other major problems I had with Lasersoft, and they let me upgrade all three for $45. I felt that was fair. After all, that's all I would have paid them anyway as I'd have only upgraded HDR. I don't use Ai for anything other than making raw scans so I don't need the NegaFix upgrade to it. If anyone knows exactly what Lasersoft charges for the upgrade for Polaroid scanners purchased after September 1, please post it so we all know.
