[filmscanners] RE: SCSI support on a Mac Pro
It is the old SS4000 without USB. Yes I think I will keep the old PC if there is no easy solution. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/11/08 1:14 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro Several questions: Is it a SprintScan 4000 with only SCSI, or the version 2 which includes USB 2? If the latter you're all set. Why not keep a machine which has PCI slots, like your current Windows computer? Or get an ancient Mac G4 for $50 and stuff your current SCSI adaptor in it. The old Mac and new one will network easily -- the Windows machine will cause a lot of little problems with file naming conventions, and so on, but is workable. I keep my scanners (including a SS4000) on a separate computer from my work machine because I find it easier to deal with that way. The interface card works, the scanner software works and is not upset with/by new releases of the work machine's OS, and so on. I use the same monitor, keyboard, and mouse for both machines with a KVM switch (KVM - Keyboard, Video, Mouse) which cost about $50. HTH! --- I currently am using my Polaroid SprintScan 4000 on a Windows computer with an installed SCSI card. Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: question about scanning and color profiles
Tony, I played with the monitor ICC profile. I could not browse to a file named 'monitor.icc' as my system doesn't seem to have a monitor.icc file. I searched the hard drive, and the closest I came up with is a file called c:\Program Files\Common Files\Polaroid Imaging\Profiles\monitor,pc.icc I tried just leaving that field blank. It really didn't make that much difference but it might be a bit better. Tony Sleep wrote: On 11/01/2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I favour the suggestion that the colour temperature of his monitor is different to that of the lightbox. Something in this area might well account for the perceived different colour balance between Polascan and Vuescan. Adobe Gamma imposes global screen profiling, which will be fine for Polascan (as fine as AG can be), whereas Vuescan... well, it does full CM, so setting an explicit monitor profile could likely be introducing double profiling. AG is already using its custom screen profile within the Windows environment, everything displayed is controlled by AG. I use Optical/Spyder hardware screen profiling which also has a global effect on the display (loaded at startup, like AG). In VS my settings are Monitor Colour Space = 'ICC Profile' Monitor ICC profile = 'monitor.icc' If I set my custom profile instead of 'monitor.icc' I would expect double profiling. I'd expect similar to happen if Stan is setting his AG profile there. He should only state an explicit profile if AGLoader is not running at startup. That would then provide CM of display within VS, but with AGLoader *and* VS using the profile, it is happening twice. Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: question about scanning and color profiles
I usually use the WB setting but as you do, I will sometimes use the neutral setting. I haven't used Ektachrome in quite a while, but the film I have used when not shooting Velvia is Elite Extra Chrome, which I understand is the consumer version of Ektachrome 100VS (I think...)I actually like that film very much. I do get the same results as with Velvia, and again, that film does much better when I use the Polaroid software. My monitor was set up with Adobe Gamma and I use that profile in VS. I know that hardware calibration is best, but I have been getting very good results with prints matching what I see on the monitor with Photoshop--so I have been reluctant to do anything with the monitor setup. Anyway, if you or someone would be willing to send me your Vuescan settings from an Ektachrome or Velvia scan (Save Settings and email the resulting vuescan.ini file), I might learn my errant settings. Stan Schwartz Tony Sleep wrote: In general, I don't ever change any colour balance settings in VS when scanning slide, except 'Colour' set to 'White Balance' (usually works best for me, and if not 'Neutral'). I've scanned various slide materials like this (though very little Velvia, and that not for some years) without significant problems. Although VS is balanced around the Ektachrome Q60, Fuji E6 materials are empirically pretty similar - I've had no problems with Astia nor Provia. So I'm as puzzled as you. Does your setup cope OK with Ektachromes? Is your monitor profiled and 'monitor.icc' set in VS? Tony Sleep Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: question about scanning and color profiles
Tony, Thanks. In comparing the SS400 scan results between Vuescan and the old Polaroid Polacolor Insight, I find Vuescan seems to give a sharper scan but produced a scan terribly biased toward blue. It just takes me forever to correct the colors with Vuescan. Even using the grey balance dropper, I still don't get colors true to the scanned transparency. In Vuescan, what do you use for the scanner profile? I have been using the built-in. In fact, I would love to see what settings you typically use for Vuescan on your SS4000 when scanning Velvia. Maybe you could send me an .ini file. Stan Tony Sleep wrote: On 28/12/2005 Stan Schwartz wrote: If I scan in Adobe RGB, and later convert to ProPhoto, have I lost any color information or does the profile simply control what the output device displays? In other words, does applying the smaller gamut profile as teh image is saved from the scanner lost any color information? In theory, yes. Converting from a narrower to a wider colourspace cannot bring back colours that were out of gamut in the narrower space, they are lost. But this is theoretical, and for it to have any practical lossy effects the image itself would have to have an extremely wide gamut and the scanner be capable of capturing the full range. Neither is particularly likely. The vast majority of film images have a fairly limited gamut which will happily fit within an even narrower space such as sRGB. In practice Adobe 1998 RGB seems very adequate; I don't think I've ever scanned anything with my Polaroid 4000 which goes out of gamut using Adobe 98. Maybe some very extreme images on Velvia or something might, I don't know. I'm suprised you complain about weird colours from Vuescan, since I find it generally quite neutral. You do know you can set grey balance using the eyedropper via RMB? I invariably scan to 16bit with and then do final levels and curves in PS before other post prod and final reduction to 8 bit. For awkward images, I find Photowiz's Colorwasher plugin invaluable, although it has quite a learning curve to get to use it optimally. Regards Tony Sleep Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: BW from Color
There are several good techniques with Photoshop. Here are two advanced techniques that are my favorites: http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html This is John Paul Caponigro's technique of creating individual layers from each color channel. This works well. He has an action posted on this page as well. Here is a compendium of several techniques: http://www.russellbrown.com/images/tips_pdfs/colortoB%26W.pdf The Russell Brown Patented Technique is by far the most fun in my experience. You can make an action out of it. Photoshop makes it almost unnecessary to shoot BW anymore... Stan Schwartz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] BW from Color Is anyone on the list using any special tools for converting color images to black and white? I've heard of work flows where you convert to LAB space and throw away the A and B. I'm looking for a plug-in or stand alone program that converts the image in a specific way. Any ideas are appreciated! Jack Phipps Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Genuine fractals?????
Paul, Help me with the math here. What would be the final dimension of the image whose snippet you are displaying here? And for reference, your 10D captures an image of about 3K pixels on the long dimension, right? Stan Schwartz Paul wrote: I've posted a pair of examples, both involving blowing up by 10x a small piece of an image that had some architectural edges as well as some non-edge detail. You can see what I mean: http://www.pbase.com/pderocco/image/36593399 http://www.pbase.com/pderocco/image/36593399 In the foreground, the artificial edge invention looks like some exotic Photoshop special effect. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: another Sharpening question
That technique of individual channel sharpening is in an edition of the Dan Margulis Professional Photoshop book. He advocates sharpening the weakest color channel in certain situations such as facial portraits. It's a very interesting discussion and he gives examples. One-channel sharpening can help avoid introducing sharpening artifacts into blue sky areas. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: another Sharpening question Has anyone tried sharpening the channels individually for a color image? Since I don't do much color, I never thought of that before...but it seems like it might be advantageous, as you wouldn't lose as much detail in the sharper channels... Any thoughts on this? Regards, Austin Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Sharpening after scanning (SS4000): question forArt
The use of edge sharpening is also sold as an action called Ultrasharpen at www.ultrasharpen.com . Previous versions used the find edges though the latest one uses glowing edges and two levels of simultaneous sharpening...or something like that. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: Sharpening after scanning (SS4000): question forArt Bob, That has been refined and is now being sold as a commercial application by Pixel Genius called Photokit Sharpener. Bruce Fraser wrote an article on this three-step sharpening workflow for Creativepro. In the first stage he employs an interesting use of layer blending options to limit the extremes in capture sharpening. www.creativepro.com/story/feature/20357.html?cprose=4-44 Bob Shomler www.shomler.com -- -- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Sharpening after scanning (SS4000): questionforArt
Are either of you allowing your scanner software to do the initial slight sharpening, or doing it post-scanning? Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Sharpening after scanning (SS4000): questionforArt What you are saying makes sense, in terms of the progressive unsharp masking process, and indeed my own workflow sometimes includes this. One of the reasons I came to this was because I found occasional upsetting artifacts showing up once I had completed the manipulation and compositing work when I then did the large USM at the end. Suddenly, defects I should have corrected in masking, dust clean up, and other artifacts showed up where they were not noticeable when the image was still soft. This was particularly so with masking processes. By doing some early-USM the edges were more defined and allowed for better masking and cut and pasting, and even in cases of some types of clean up. I also suspect doing a progressive USM (even if it were done at the end) by in stages and steps, might allow for (ironically) softer sharpening which might look more natural, sort of like a fractal-like process where definition was generated by massaging the pixels into place. Art Laurie Solomon wrote: Art, There is a current wisdom among many including some industry gurus that because of the points you make regarding captures by scanners (and I might add digital cameras), it is beneficial to apply slight sharpening to an image prior to doing any editing of the image, additional sharpening at the end of the editing stage with focus on local sharpening, and final sharpening of the overall image prior to outputting. This does represent a sea change from the all-at-once prior to printing advice that use to be in fashion in the golden days of digital's youth. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forArt Hi Stan, I may have mis-spoken or at minimum, been misunderstood. You are correct that sharpening should occur prior to printing. Saving the image sharpened is not necessary, and may, in fact, be detrimental since sharpening adjustments vary depending upon final output size and other factors. They may even depend upon the printer type and driver software. I cannot give you absolutes in terms settings in using unsharp masking, because it depends upon many factors. Some include the type of image or subject matter and contract, color intensity, etc, the size the imagine is going to be reproduced to, and the scanning resolution used, the type of source material (the film base used) and indeed the type of scanner and if things like dICE is used or not. By trial and error, I have a sense of the settings depending on these factors, and how the image looks on the screen at differing magnifications. However, my principal point is this: All CCD based scanners tend to introduce softening which can in part be recaptured via unsharp masking. This softness is not a defect in focus or optics or the CCD, but is intentionally introduced to reduce the amount of noise and artifacting (Nyquist errors) that develop in the analogue to digital transfer which occurs in the scanning process. No image should be compared until optimum unsharp masking is accomplished because some manufacturers will uses some USM to make their scanners appear to have higher sharpness and resolution when actually introducing this higher focal accuracy may add unnecessary and even undesirable artifacts which cannot later be removed. Keeping the image unsharpened for storage does indeed allow you to adjust those measurements to the output method and size. Art Stan Schwartz wrote: A while back, Art mentioned sharpening a scanned transparency image before saving it--to restore some of the loss of sharpness inherent in the SS4000 scan. I am curious to know what degree of sharpening you use, in Photoshop terms re: %,radius and threshold, for this task. I've usually reserved sharpening as the last step before printing, leaving my archived image unsharpened. Stan Schwartz Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Sharpening after scanning (SS4000): question for Art
A while back, Art mentioned sharpening a scanned transparency image before saving it--to restore some of the loss of sharpness inherent in the SS4000 scan. I am curious to know what degree of sharpening you use, in Photoshop terms re: %,radius and threshold, for this task. I've usually reserved sharpening as the last step before printing, leaving my archived image unsharpened. Stan Schwartz Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: SS4000 again--use caution when opening the case
PLEASE: we should add to this: After you have release the catches, slide the cover off very slowly and use a penlight to visualize the wires connecting the switch under the cover to the main unit. These wires are short and if the cover is removed in certain directions, one or more of these wires will be pulled taut and the soldered connection will break. The wires are too short for the cover to be moved very far at all. Indeed, these wires seem to be designed to make the unwary user regret ever opening the case. Alternatively, you may wish to include a recommendation to have a small soldering iron available to resolder these wires. (What a pain that was) Stan Schwartz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 again At 10:49 PM 2/24/2004 +1000, Rob Geraghty wrote: I gather nobody on the list has attempted to clean the CCD of a SS4000? Rob Hi Rob, The following was posted in January of '03 on this List by Thomas Maugham: Summary of SS4000 cleaning discussion. HOW DO I KNOW IF MY SCANNER NEEDS CLEANING? By opening the unit and examining the optical mirror. Or, if you want a preliminary idea of how dirty the mirror may be before taking this step, look at the amount of dust underneath your scanner. If you do not use a dustcover, this is likely to be a good indicator of how much dust may be on the optical lens and mirror. (this is because the scanner has open holes and serves as a dust collector, unless you have a dust cover) HOW DO I OPEN THE UNIT FOR EXAMINATION AND CLEANING? First, get the scanner unplugged from the computer and out on a clear well lit table where you can work on it. Turn the scanner upside down, you will see four plastic catches on the bottom sides near the corners. A small flat screwdriver can be used to pop open these catches. Be careful not to break them. Once you have released the catches and have slid the top off, you will see the mechanism. The top cover and main chassis will, of course, still be connected by various wires. Connect the power cord to the unit and press the power button on. The scanner will attempt to go through one cycle. Be observant, at one point the optical mirror will be perfectly revealed. It may take a few tries to see how it works. As soon as the mirror is perfectly accessible, pull the power cord so it freezes in that position. HOW DO I CLEAN THE OPTICAL MIRROR? With compressed air. Air comes in two forms, a compressor or a can of dust-off available from camera stores, etc. If you have compressor, set to about 40 lbs of air pressure. I recommend you use a medical compressor because it does not have oil pistons. (Regular air compressors sold for general machine or airbrush use have oil pistons, so make sure your compressor does not emit tiny oil droplets out the nozzle) If you use the canned air, remember not to hold the can at an angle because some of these squirt a liquid out if held at angles other than generally vertical. Perhaps you can put the scanner on it's side while blowing the dust away. Another suggestion for canned air is to put a downward bend in the tube that is used to extend the nozzle, you can do this while slightly heating the tube with a match. Blow off the mirror and lens real good. WHAT IT THE MIRROR NEEDS FURTHER CLEANING? Then you need denatured alcohol available from hardware or paint stores (which is NOT drugstore isopropyl alcohol). Use lens cleaning tissue, and put a little denatured alcohol on the tissue. Fold the tissue over and drag it across the mirror using no pressure. Do not get the alcohol on plastic parts or let it get behind the mirror, or let it drip all over everything. Use each tissue only once and discard. WHAT CAN I DO TO KEEP THE UNIT IN GOOD CONDITION? make a plastic dustcover. Or, put it in a plastic bag when not using it. Anything to keep dust from getting into it is a good thing. This is not authorized factory service information. I am not qualified to do anything, I have no education, I don't know anything. These are practical suggestions for do-it-yourselfers and are based on my personal experience of doing it. My remarks about cleaning the mirror come from questioning a life-long camera repairman. I have no factory training or information. There are many people on this list who are scanner scientists and mechanics and can probably offer better information, so let's hope to hear from them. Later, Johnny __ Johnny Johnson Lilburn, GA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: SS 4000 Questions
The mirror will collect a lot of dust. You can take the cover off and blow most of that dust off. There was a discussion here a while back about just how much that dust would or wouldn't affect the final image, however. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david.gordon Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS 4000 Questions Les Berkley wrote on Tue 2 Dec 2003 at 18:51 -0500 Lastly, is there a way to shut the front door to keep out dust? Lots of replies to this about using a shoe box etc. However I seem to remember Polaroid being Very Pleased with their anti-dust design work in the SS4000. I've never protected my SS4000 and I assume plenty of dust gets in. But as far as I can see its only dust or dirt on my film that is a problem. I don't think you will ever see dust on the sensor - if that is what people are worried about. -- david.gordon Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I presume you are not having any freeze-ups. Have you used Insight 5.0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings My w98/SS4000 machine has [vcache] and no entries at all. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
filmscanners: Polacolor Insight 5.0/SS4000/Lamp shut off not working
The new Insight 5.0 lamp auto-shut off is not working on my SS4000. I set it for 5 minutes and the lamp was still on 30 minutes later. I presume it is supposed to shut down the lamp after a scan if I leave Insight running. Is there any firmware upgrade necessary to make this work with 5.0? Is there anything I can easily do to troubleshoot this unfunction? Stan
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
Thanks. Good ideas here. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Greenbank Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only the speed at which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the Win9x/ME bug where you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than 512MB. As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem elsewhere. The fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory available might mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not used by the new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem being moved to a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it was used for program code. Likely sources are: 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having problems - try 5.0) 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try torture test in Prime95 ( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu memory severely. 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other devices) 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw your machine) 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all non-essential background processes) 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - physical removal is better) 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) (temporarily remove other devices) To check properly you will after to find a set of scan settings that will reboot your machine everytime - preferably immediately after just booting. Otherwise your current setting for MaxFileCache is a bit low and will probably slow your machine down. Using a value that is slightly larger than your typical TIFF file can make open save work much quicker provided you don't overly restrict available RAM to the actual programs. This can be seen most clearly during a save operation. (eg 35mm 4000dpi is about 54MB 8bit and 108MB 16bit so try around 55000/11 depending on whether you use a lot of 16bit files). Steve - Original Message - From: Stan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Filmscanners (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and 512MB RAM. I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in the middle of scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that here a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better speech recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. After making those improvements, I was unable to scan a single slide without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that suggest values for power users and multimedia and low memory systems. I just changed the settings in system.ini to: [vcache] MaxFileCache=16384 MinFileCache=3144 The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as 4096. Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting should be, or if it should be specified at all. Stan
RE: filmscanners: PolaColor Insight 5.x
Does the lamp auto-shut off feature work on your SS4000? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JimD Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: PolaColor Insight 5.x I just tried a couple scans and Insight 5 is a winner. The ability to save 12 bit corrected files on the SS4000 is great.
RE: filmscanners: VueScan and SS4000--second question
Once the program loads, the opening screen looks normal and the SS4000 shows up. In the past, I have seen the program delay opening when it can't find the scanner. However, that isn't the problem here. Now I have to make the decision whether to spend a bunch of time tinkering to figure out why loading is slow--or just live with it for now. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Shomler Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan and SS4000--second question The last two versions of VueScan are loading extremely slowly and also closing down slowly. It's taking about 20-30 seconds from clicking the icon to having the initial VueScan screen appear. It takes the program around 15 seconds to close down now. This happened once to me with a different model SCSI-attached scanner. Problem was somehow in OS or HW communication with the scanner. When Viescan does finish loading does it show the SS4000 scanner in the scan-from menu in the device tab window or does it show (scan from) disk? Does the problem not occur if you load an earlier Vuescan version? -- Bob Shomler http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm
filmscanners: VueScan and SS4000--second question
Many thanks to those of you who answered my questions about white pixel clipping. One more VueScan/SprintScan4000 question; The last two versions of VueScan are loading extremely slowly and also closing down slowly. It's taking about 20-30 seconds from clicking the icon to having the initial VueScan screen appear. It takes the program around 15 seconds to close down now. I haven't changed my hardware configuration and Polaroid's Insight scanning software loads and exits normally. Anyone else notice this? Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com
RE: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000
Tony, Thanks. These whiskers only show up on high-bit scans with VueScan but not high-bit scans with Polaroid's software. You are correct that they disappear on 8-bit conversion. Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000 Any idea what the fairly evenly spaced whiskers on the histogram represent? If not actual subject luminances, then usually you'd expect them to indicate rounding errors during processing. They need not alarm you, you'll find they vanish on conversion to 8bit. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
RE: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000 On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 21:03:03 -0500 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What's OTT? Over The Top; excessive Also, I am actually scanning at 12-bits; that's the spec on the SS4000. PS treats the image like a 16-bit. Is that introducing any problem? No. The 12 bit output is padded to 16bits for compatability, that's all. Any idea what the fairly evenly spaced whiskers on the histogram represent? If not actual subject luminances, then usually you'd expect them to indicate rounding errors during processing. They need not alarm you, you'll find they vanish on conversion to 8bit. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000
I am making a scan of an array of bright azaleas using VueScan and an SS4000. I am scanning at 48-bits. I am not sure I understand the settings correctly in VueScan. My scanned images are showing a lot of burned out highlights. The Photoshop histogram shows a lot of bright pixel clipping off the the right side of the histogram, confirmed by Option_clicking the white triangle. I tried scanning in both white balance and autolevels. The Help information says that I would be best with autolevels for this type image. Looking at other high brightness images, it appears I am getting a significant amount of clipping if I leave the white point setting at 0.5%. Even at white point set to 0.0%, there is a small amount of white pixel clipping. I am not clear what is accomplished by having the white point setting defaulted to 0.5%. One other thing the histogram shows: across the top of the histogram, even before I make any level adjustment, I am seeing about a dozen or so whiskers. I understand why these show up after levels adjustments, but I am not clear why I am seeing them on the unadjust image. This clipping and the whiskers are not showing up when I scan with Polaroid's software. Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com
RE: filmscanners: Film Scanner Question Again
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Film Scanner Question Again On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:32:41 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyone else have an Epson flatbed who can comment? Scanner manufacturers seem to make things needlessly complicated with settings like this. Yes, as does Photoshop. To quote myself ;) 'it will save you endless confusion to realise than scans don't really have any dimension apart from pixels.' I won't plug my page a third time, but I didn't do it to say it all again here ;-) Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
RE: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000
Thanks. What's OTT? Also, I am actually scanning at 12-bits; that's the spec on the SS4000. PS treats the image like a 16-bit. Is that introducing any problem? Any idea what the fairly evenly spaced whiskers on the histogram represent? By the way, I am not able to access your website. I am getting an announcement message from the ISP, it seems. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: VueScan and white pixel clipping SS4000 On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 11:06:56 -0500 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am making a scan of an array of bright azaleas using VueScan and an SS4000. I am scanning at 48-bits. Try a white point setting of 0.01% (0.0% is usually OTT), and adjust Color|Image Brightness to a smaller number to give a duller, greyer preview (hit Prev Mem after adjusting). EG, if currently 1.0, try 0.8 or so. This will avoid the clipping, and you can then adjust levels precisely in PS. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
RE: filmscanners: Where to buy
I have bought from all three. You need to look also at shipping charges and whether sales tax will be added to your order (depending on what state you are in if you are in the USA). Those two added charges can make a significant difference. Stan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: filmscanners: Where to buyI have made up my mind to buy the Polaroid 120. Maybe I am wrong, but I survived being in the military in WW II so I will probably survive any errors in selection here. I don't know where to buy. There are many sources. I have had good luck with PC Connection, but they want 2795. The cheapest is ECost. Are they reputable. B H Photo is 2695. Any advice? I am going to stick with the less software version, because I am a scanning neophyte and don't want total confusion at first. Maybe later. Thanks. This is a great list. Either you are all mostly geniuses, or I am even dumber than I think I am. Jim Sillars
filmscanners: Batch scanning problems with SS4000
I use an SS4000 on a Dell 933 computer running Win98SE with 512MB RAM. I have a flatbed scanner and a JAZ drive also on the SCSI chain, but I keep the flatbed scanner off while using the SprintScan. The SCSI card is a SIIG. I can rarely finish a batch scan at full resolution without my system either freezing, rebooting itself or getting a message that there has been a problem with the SCSI bus. The most common of these three is a freeze. This behavior occurs most frequently with Polaroid's Insight software but also may occur with VueScan. I can scan single slides OK unless I try to use the computer during scanning in some other application. I have to just leave it alone during scanning. Anyone else have problems like this? Any solutions? Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com
RE: filmscanners: Nikon Coolscan LS4000 - Peppery scans with Fujichromes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kah Heng, Tan Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon Coolscan LS4000 - Peppery scans with Fuji chromes At 09:22 AM 5/20/01 -0400, you wrote: Kah Heng, Tan wrote: Hi I have been fiddling with this scanner for the last half a day since buying it yesterday. Whilst it's ability to see into dark shadows is nothing short of amazing, and its terrific scanning speed at full res brings a smile to me, I have been having an extremely annoying problem with what I can only describe as 'peppery' scans with Fuji slides. Tan, I have been scanning and printing with the LS4000 for two weeks. Not one single problem. I'm getting the most beautiful scans I've ever done. Prior to the 4000, I had the Nikon LS2000. I use exclusively Fuji 100F and Velvia. I've never seen a black speck like you're getting. This is not normal. I'm not a tech person and don't know how to help. My LS4000 installed very easy with no glitches. Every scan from the first to the last has been perfect. BTW, you won't believe the colors when using the 14-bit mode. It doubles your file size but triples your pleasure. Ray Amos Hi Ray That's actually GOOD news. It means that I could have a defective unit. I appreciate your advice on this. Good to hear you're using the same Fuji films I have been referring to. What's interesting is that I don't have this problem with scans of 6 year old Kodak Gold 200 negs, though Elitechrome 200 scans show some of the same problem, but E100S scans are not too bad. I seem to have bad luck with scanners. Thank God I bought this locally so I am going to exchange it tomorrow first thing in the morning. Regards Tan
RE: filmscanners: Re Insight or Photoshop?
IMHO (as I use the SprintScan and do 11X17 prints) Just do the basic scan with Insight. Use all the power of Photoshop to prepare the image for printing. I recommend not doing your sharpening until you are just ready to print. I never sharpen the permanent archived version of the file. Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: filmscanners: Re Insight or Photoshop?I, m new to this site so if this has been covered already, I apologized. My scanner is the Polaroid Sprintscan 4000 with Insight. I use Photoshop 5.0. I would like to produce high quality 11x17 inch prints on my Epson 1200 printer. My question is...should I use the Insight software for my adjustments or just do a basic scan and do most of the adjustments in Photoshop? Also should I sharpen the image at all before the final scan or do it in Photoshop. Thank-you. S. Sisk
RE: filmscanners:Focusing with SprintScan 4000--was flatness in Nikon4000
This post raises a question about how the SprintScan 4000 focuses. The bundled Insight software includes a setting for focusing on scanning. As many of my cardboard mounted transparencies are bowed to various degrees, I have been curious whether this focusing scheme tracks the curvature of the film--or does it just focus on a single plane. If the latter, does it choose the plane of the edge or the plane of the center? If it cannot track the curvature, would I get better results scanning in a temporary glass mount? Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL GRAHAM Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:15 PM To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk Subject: filmscanners: film flatness in Nikon 4000 Don't see why anyone is surprised to learn that there is film curvature with 35mm negs in the Nikon scanner. Every pro lab knows that you have to use glass holders for film when working to critical sharpness, 35mm or 5x4". and 4000 dpi needs critical sharpness... Nikon makes and sells a glass holder for the scanner (and the 8000 too) so what's the problem? critical work - with traditional enlargers or with high end scanners, demands some care and attention, and it's actually slightly reassuring that the focus is so precise IMO. It seem this is not really a fair criticism of the scanner. It is intended for semi-professional work after all. Use the glass holder, (with anti newton glass if you have that problem) and you will see astounding differences in your image sharpness. pg
RE: filmscanners:Focusing with SprintScan 4000--was flatness in N ikon4000
David, under what circumstances should the focus box be selected in Insight? The help file doesn't give much detail. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hemingway, David J Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners:Focusing with SprintScan 4000--was flatness in N ikon 4000 Because of the light source the lens has significant depth of field. You need not be concerned. David -Original Message- From: Stan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners:Focusing with SprintScan 4000--was flatness in Nikon 4000 This post raises a question about how the SprintScan 4000 focuses. The bundled Insight software includes a setting for focusing on scanning. As many of my cardboard mounted transparencies are bowed to various degrees, I have been curious whether this focusing scheme tracks the curvature of the film--or does it just focus on a single plane. If the latter, does it choose the plane of the edge or the plane of the center? If it cannot track the curvature, would I get better results scanning in a temporary glass mount? Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PAUL GRAHAM Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 6:15 PM To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk Subject: filmscanners: film flatness in Nikon 4000 Don't see why anyone is surprised to learn that there is film curvature with 35mm negs in the Nikon scanner. Every pro lab knows that you have to use glass holders for film when working to critical sharpness, 35mm or 5x4". and 4000 dpi needs critical sharpness... Nikon makes and sells a glass holder for the scanner (and the 8000 too) so what's the problem? critical work - with traditional enlargers or with high end scanners, demands some care and attention, and it's actually slightly reassuring that the focus is so precise IMO. It seem this is not really a fair criticism of the scanner. It is intended for semi-professional work after all. Use the glass holder, (with anti newton glass if you have that problem) and you will see astounding differences in your image sharpness. pg
RE: filmscanners: Vuescan 7.0.5--no more split screen?
I am a few versions behind on Vuescan. Is it no longer possible to have the preview visible on the right and make adjustments on the left? I see that Prev Mem button opens the preview screen again but then you have to click back on Color to make more adjustments. Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yuri Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Vuescan 7.0.5 FYI VueScan 7.0.5 is out (24/3/01) at: http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html What's new in version 7.0.5 * Fixed problem when HP 3300C connected (not supported) * Fixed problem with SCSI Minolta scanners * Added an option to start VueScan without using any scanners (Prefs|Disk files only). This is useful if you want to run multiple copies at the same time. You need to set this option and restart VueScan to enable this, and need to use copies of VueScan in different directories.
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 batch scanning problems
I have been having problems with batch scanning using Insight as well as Vuescan 7.0+. With Insight, I can do thumbnails, select the images I wish to scan and then press Scan Selected. The scanner is just stopping and locking up seemingly at random when doing this batch scanning, usually when it's scanned about 68% of an image. Sometimes I can scan two images but sometimes it will lock on the second image--but most often the third or fourth. Win98Se 933 MHz Dell machine with 512MB RAM SIG SCSI card Anyone else seeing this problem? Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com
RE: filmscanners: Rude Posts---was Tony please take note
Years ago, I was on a list when a very abusive individual joined in and posted rude remarks periodically. The more posts there were in reponse to this individual, the more abusive his/her subsequent posts were. Finally, everyone decided just to ignore the posts. Eventually this individual stopped posting. We figured that he/she must have been a kid or teenager rather than a grown-up. Later, we found out he was a cocker spaniel. Stan
RE: filmscanners: dust in the SS4000
Frank, That's what I am talking about. Maybe David will tell us what that does. Stan --- Is the glass element the flat, square cruddy looking thing about four inches inside the slot on the bottom, below two metal cutouts? What is it's purpose? What I'm looking has so much dust on it that it couldn't possibly have anything to do with forming images, because my images are brilliant and sharp. I guess I better order that brush. I don't use any dust cover. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684
RE: filmscanners: Gold star for polaroid!
Frank, I just ordered the brush(and it arrived in 2 days rather than 10 days). My SS4000 is working fine, but I looked inside with a penlight and was dismayed at how much dust had accumulated on the glass element. And that was with using a dust cover. Stan Schwartz www.tallgrassimages.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Paris Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Gold star for polaroid! I'm just curious. Could you give us a rough estimate of how many scans you put through your 4000 before this problem started to develop? I'm guessing I've put 400 or 500 slides through mine, so far working flawlessly. Of course I realize that's not very many. Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Matturri Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: Gold star for polaroid! A couple of days ago my 4000 began recycling eternally. This was a couple of days after David Hemingway announced that a free sensor cleaning brush was available for the problem. When I called up Polaroid the rep said it would arrive in 10 to 14 days, but indicated that she would mark it to be expidited, giving no guarantees that it would be done. It was, however, sent out the next day UPS next day air. Haven't had time to use it, so I don't know for sure that this will solve my problem, but certainly appreciate the support. I did look at the instruction sheet and saw that it was recommended that the brush be used once a month, so SS4000 owners might want to get in touch before the problem develops. John M.
RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.0 Beta 1 Available
Ed, With the new interface, I no longer see the preview window when making adjustments. Hitting Prev Mem does return focus to the preview window. I thought it was better to have the preview window display when entering new parameters in the boxes. It would be nice to have these two options: 1. Entering any data into a crop, filter or color box and hitting Enter would automatically activate Prev Mem. That would save having to grab the mouse and click on the Prev Mem button. 2. Return the Preview Box on the right and the control boxes on the left. That would save time if one wanted to try a lot of different settings. Version 7 seems to take longer to load and longer to close than previous versions on my machine (Dell 933 w/512MB) Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: VueScan 7.0 Beta 1 Available I just released VueScan 7.0 Beta 1. I'm not widely publicizing this, but the Windows, Mac OS and Linux versions can be downloaded from: Ed Hamrick
filmscanners: VueScan 6.7.5 and SS4000
I just upgraded to 6.7.5 from an earlier version. When I do a final scan with the SS4000, instead of the carrier being pulled through continuously, now it's moving with a start-stop motion. Is that an expected change? I don't have the multiple pass or long pass options checked. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok
RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems
I will try it with your images plus a few others. Thanks Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jack Phipps Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems Maybe you are doing nothing wrong. If there is no difference between the images, you will get 000 for red, green and blue channels at each point after subtracting the JPG image from the TIF image. If there is more than one spike, you put one triange on each side of the spikes in levels it will amplify any differences. I'll send you some example files. Jack Phipps -Original Message- From: Stan Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems Jack, I tried this on a 50 MB tiff image. After following your instruction, the histogram shows a single spike adjacent to the left border of the histogram box directly above the black arrow. Adjusting the levels arrows doesn't do anything. All the subtracted pixels are black. What am I doing wrong? Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jack Phipps Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:43 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems Julie-- Do you have a high resolution scan in a TIF format? If you save it as a JPG in Photoshop at the highest quality and open it up again (so you have two images open in Photoshop, the original plus the image saved as a JPG), and then do an apply image, applying the JPG image to the TIF image, blending using subtraction, the result will be the difference between the two images. At first glance, it will be black. But if you do a level, the histogram will so some information at the very left. Slide the triangles over to amplify the differences. So what? Well, if that small amount of difference is important to you, you should insist the negatives be rescanned and saved in a format that will retain all of the image information. Also, you don't know if they saved at the highest quality or not. It is also a good way to show to the lab that yes, you do loose something at the highest quality setting. And it could be a good way to convince yourself that you can live with their result. By the way, I've just now run a test and I've saved a small part of an image that takes up about 700 kb. I was going to attach the results but I didn't know if that is allowed on this list. Should I do that or is there an archive where I can post the results. I would be glad to send them to you Julie in a separate email. Anyway, good luck with your project. Jack Phipps Applied Science Fiction -Original Message- From: Cooke, Julie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:15 AM To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk (E-mail) Subject: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems I've just had my 6x7 trannies scanned by a lab specialising in digital. I paid for a 50MB scan and got a 7MB jpeg back. I took the CD back to the manger, who told me that it was a 50MB scan, compressed to 7MB and that all the information would be there when I opened it up!!! I think by this he means that when you go to Image Size in Photoshop it does say 55MB (4800 pixels x 3900 at 300dpi), although the file is 7MB. Is this the file size if saved to psd format? I've lent my Real World Photoshop book out. I explained that jpeg was a lossy compression, that information had been lost when converting to jpeg and it was no good to me. He looked at me as if I was mad and said that he uses jpeg for all his customers to get more images on the CD. I argued that jpeg does loss information and drops the colours that the eye cannot see. He told me that I had to specify tiff otherwise he saves as jpeg, then reluctantly said 'so you want me to do the whole job again'. This lab specialises in digital, how can people accept jpegs? So much information has been lost for manipulating (levels and curves) in Photoshop. I won't be going back there again... Julie
RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems
Jack, I tried this on a 50 MB tiff image. After following your instruction, the histogram shows a single spike adjacent to the left border of the histogram box directly above the black arrow. Adjusting the levels arrows doesn't do anything. All the subtracted pixels are black. What am I doing wrong? Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jack Phipps Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:43 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems Julie-- Do you have a high resolution scan in a TIF format? If you save it as a JPG in Photoshop at the highest quality and open it up again (so you have two images open in Photoshop, the original plus the image saved as a JPG), and then do an apply image, applying the JPG image to the TIF image, blending using subtraction, the result will be the difference between the two images. At first glance, it will be black. But if you do a level, the histogram will so some information at the very left. Slide the triangles over to amplify the differences. So what? Well, if that small amount of difference is important to you, you should insist the negatives be rescanned and saved in a format that will retain all of the image information. Also, you don't know if they saved at the highest quality or not. It is also a good way to show to the lab that yes, you do loose something at the highest quality setting. And it could be a good way to convince yourself that you can live with their result. By the way, I've just now run a test and I've saved a small part of an image that takes up about 700 kb. I was going to attach the results but I didn't know if that is allowed on this list. Should I do that or is there an archive where I can post the results. I would be glad to send them to you Julie in a separate email. Anyway, good luck with your project. Jack Phipps Applied Science Fiction -Original Message- From: Cooke, Julie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:15 AM To: Filmscanners@Halftone. Co. Uk (E-mail) Subject: filmscanners: Re: Scanning problems I've just had my 6x7 trannies scanned by a lab specialising in digital. I paid for a 50MB scan and got a 7MB jpeg back. I took the CD back to the manger, who told me that it was a 50MB scan, compressed to 7MB and that all the information would be there when I opened it up!!! I think by this he means that when you go to Image Size in Photoshop it does say 55MB (4800 pixels x 3900 at 300dpi), although the file is 7MB. Is this the file size if saved to psd format? I've lent my Real World Photoshop book out. I explained that jpeg was a lossy compression, that information had been lost when converting to jpeg and it was no good to me. He looked at me as if I was mad and said that he uses jpeg for all his customers to get more images on the CD. I argued that jpeg does loss information and drops the colours that the eye cannot see. He told me that I had to specify tiff otherwise he saves as jpeg, then reluctantly said 'so you want me to do the whole job again'. This lab specialises in digital, how can people accept jpegs? So much information has been lost for manipulating (levels and curves) in Photoshop. I won't be going back there again... Julie
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
I am very pleased with the scanner in terms of the sharpness of 8x12 images. With the use of Photoshop and good sharpening technique, the 11x14 and 11x16 images are acceptable. The Fujix Pictrograph prints compare very well to optical enlargements. Once past that size, the limiting factor is more likely to be the 35mm slide itself, not the scanner you use. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok Good point. I agree. I don't think 4000dpi is enough to do what I really envision. But probably the best I can do with today's films. But films may get even better than they are today in a struggle to not become obsolete. And as printers get finer and finer in resolution and computer memory, storage and processor speed continue to grow exponentially, 4000dpi could be come hobby level scanning. Bob Kehl
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
You might break it if you sat on it. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hart or Mary Jo Corbett Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value? I am considering the purchase of an SS4000; just how "pathetically flimsy" are the film/slide holders? Hart Corbett -- From: JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value? Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2001, 11:27 AM The pathetically flimsy plastic film/slide holders on my SS4000 are a major reason that I'm real interested in a new Nikon scanner. I'm praying that Polaroid will improve the film/slide holders as they attempt to compete with Nikon. -JimD At 09:09 AM 1/20/01 -0700, jimhayes wrote: snip Improvements? The plastic film holders are flimsy. I thought I heard that with the new Polaroid 120, metal holders are supplied, ones that will work in the SS 4000 as well(?). snip
RE: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000
Jim, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jimhayes Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000 Please, before you do this go to this link: Look at bottom of page... http://polaroid.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/polaroid/solution?11=000321-0047130=09 5366910814=22715=1815=2716=57=faq58=2900=SPfsOgRVGI Is it safe to use Dust-off on this? The can warns about not using it on camera mirrors. Yes, but be terribly careful to keep the can upright and vertical. ... -- Jim Hayes Pixelography: The marriage of silicon and silver. Images at http://www.jymis.com/~jimhayes
RE: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000
I looked inside my SS4000 and was surprised to find a nice layer of dust on the lens, despite using a dust shield regularly Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shAf Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000 Stan writes ... After doing this a few times, I have removed much but not all of the dust. I guess I will have to get one of those mini-vacuums. I missed your original post ... can I ask what your evidence of "dust" is? (... just making sure we're not talking about "dust" on the film ... for which there are anti-static remedies ... hmmm ... for that matter, possibly inside the scanner too, if components are plastic ...) shAf :o)
RE: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000
I think you run the risk of spraying bits of lubricant when using a compressor. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of IronWorks Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000 This may be overkill but if anyone you know has an air compressor (e.g. someone might have bought one for his/her bicycle or car tires, or for a workshop as I had) it may be helpful - more powerful compressed air to blow away the dust. Maris - Original Message - From: "Stan Schwartz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000 | After doing this a few times, I have removed much but not all of the dust. I | guess I will have to get one of those mini-vacuums. | | Stan
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
An upside down shoe box with strategically located cutouts for the cables is just perfect for this. A dust cover would be nice. It's actually mandatory I think. I had one custom made for about $15; most people just make one out of foam-core or the like. I think throwing in a $15 dollar cover wouldn't eat into the profits too much.
filmscanners: removing dust from SS4000
The discussion of dustcovers lead me to check inside my SS4000. I do have visible dust on what appears to be the lens. Is it safe to use Dust-off on this? The can warns about not using it on camera mirrors. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok
RE: filmscanners: VueScan 6.4.12 Available
Ed, The 8X exposure requires a second pass, right? I thought there is a registration problem for multiple passes with the SprintScan 4000, which you list below. At least the current help file still mentions it. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: VueScan 6.4.12 Available I just released VueScan 6.4.12 for Windows, Mac OS and Linux. It can be downloaded from: http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html What's new in version 6.4.12 * Added support for 8x exposure combined with 1x exposure to get detail from dark areas of slides. This is supported on scanners that can increase the CCD exposure by an arbitrary amount - Nikon LS-20/LS-30/LS-1000/LS-2000, all Minolta scanners and SprintScan/ArtixScan 4000. * Fixed problem with scanning negatives on Canon FS2710 Regards, Ed Hamrick
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ?
Tony, Thanks. Polaroid should have put that fact in their docs or readmes. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ? On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:28:16 -0600 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What is odd is that when I open the image in Photoshop, I get this message: The document's embedded color profile does not match the current RGB Working space: Embedded: Adobe RGB (1998) Working: Adobe RGB (1998) Like I say, it's beta software and profile embedding is broken. Whatever it says, the embedded space is always sRGB in 8 bit output, none in 16bit output. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ?
Here's what the Help file from Insight says: "Embedding Color Profiles With PolaColor Insight software, you can embed a color profile (information about the image color space) within your image file. Color profiles produce more accurate colors when files are printed or viewed with applications conforming with ICM standards. Adobe Photoshop software (version 5) is an example of such an application. Enable color profile embedding by clicking the Embed Color Profile box when choosing a filename for a scanned image. The profile embedded is the output profile, the same one used to create your image file. " This is version 4.5. I read that to mean it should be embedding the profile. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of B.Twieg Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ? Stan, Vuescan does embed the selected Adobe RGB profile but Insight 4.5 will not. Insight will only embed the monitor profile for 8 bit scans or a special scanner slide or negative profile for high bit scans( I do the latter). So, when an Insight scan arrives in Photoshop, it is embedded with a profile different from your chosen Adobe RGB and, therefore, it asks you if you want to convert. But, the next version of Insight(v5 coming soon)will supposedly be able to embed profiles. Bill Twieg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Schwartz Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ? When I use the SS4000 with the Insight software and I use the Adobe1998 setting in Insight, Photoshop still asks me if I want to convert the image to Adobe 1998. When I use VueScan with Adobe1998 selected, I don't get the "ask when color profile mismatch" box when opening the image in Photoshop. A second question is: is there a VueScan plugin for Photoshop so that it will appear on the File/Import scanner menu? Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ?
I am using a PC. Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Shomler Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ? When I use the SS4000 with the Insight software and I use the Adobe1998 setting in Insight, Photoshop still asks me if I want to convert the image to Adobe 1998. When I use VueScan with Adobe1998 selected, I don't get the "ask when color profile mismatch" box when opening the image in Photoshop. Are you using a mac? A friend with a SS4000 on a mac has this problem. His system should have been giving ColorMatch profile, but Insight declared it sRGB. I don't know how it was resolved, nor if it was an Insight problem or system problem (he had to do a number of system repairs); but it's something to check for. -- Bob Shomler http://www.shomler.com/gallery.htm
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ?
What is odd is that when I open the image in Photoshop, I get this message: The document's embedded color profile does not match the current RGB Working space: Embedded: Adobe RGB (1998) Working: Adobe RGB (1998) Version 4.5 of Insight Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ? On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:22:10 -0600 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When I use the SS4000 with the Insight software and I use the Adobe1998 setting in Insight, Photoshop still asks me if I want to convert the image to Adobe 1998. Which version? I think all the 4.5n versions around with CM stuff are betas, and currently have incomplete implementation of profile stuff. If you are producing 8 bit scans via Insight, they ignore any output profile setting and output sRGB regardless. If you produce 16bit, the output has been run against the internal scanner profile, but is untagged. Either way, PS will trigger a conversion to Adobe98 because of the mismatch. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons
filmscanners: SS4000 and Insight/Vuescan software ?
When I use the SS4000 with the Insight software and I use the Adobe1998 setting in Insight, Photoshop still asks me if I want to convert the image to Adobe 1998. When I use VueScan with Adobe1998 selected, I don't get the "ask when color profile mismatch" box when opening the image in Photoshop. A second question is: is there a VueScan plugin for Photoshop so that it will appear on the File/Import scanner menu? Stan Schwartz http://home.swbell.net/snsok
RE: filmscanners: Sprintscan 120 now on B+H web site ...
David, I have the SS4000 with the Insight software. Is dust removal software offered for the SS4000? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hemingway, David J Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: filmscanners: Sprintscan 120 now on B+H web site ... The ss120 will have Polaroid's proprietary software dust removal which has been described by those who use it a nearly or as good as ice for dust removal. Ice will not correct physical damage to film and ALL dust removal softens the image which is one reason you do not see it on higher end scanners such as Imacon. David -Original Message- From: Ian Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: Sprintscan 120 now on B+H web site ... Dave, Thanks for the tip. I note that they fail to mention ICE? Ian - Original Message - From: "David Freedman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:59 AM Subject: filmscanners: Sprintscan 120 now on B+H web site ... B+H (www.bhphoto.com) has just added the eagerly-awaited Polaroid Sprintscan 120 to its web site. Price shown is MSRP, $3999.95. Not currently in stock (of course) but expected late February. Dave F.
