RE: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-22 Thread Shough, Dean

 Thanks for the tip but virus scans turn up negative.  Macs are seldom 
 infected with viruses, I am told.  All applications on my PowerMac work
 fine
 as do *all* other Web sites.  Likewise, I can reach the "sub-pages" of the
 Minolta site through the Excite! search engine.  Just the Minolta USA home
 page does not work.


I have some problems with the Minolta USA site from my Mac G4 running
Internet Explorer 5.  If I very carefully position the cursor over the "|"
to the right of the desired choice, a pop up menu appears.  If I very
carefully and quickly jump down into the pop up menu, I am able to make a
selection and continue.  It usually take me about 5-10 tries before I can
get to the scanner page.  None of this is  using IE under NT 2000.



Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-21 Thread Hart or Mary Jo Corbett

Thanks for the tip but virus scans turn up negative.  Macs are seldom 
infected with viruses, I am told.  All applications on my PowerMac work fine
as do *all* other Web sites.  Likewise, I can reach the "sub-pages" of the
Minolta site through the Excite! search engine.  Just the Minolta USA home
page does not work.

Hart Corbett

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Subject: Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie
Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2001, 5:27 PM


 on 20/1/01 8:04 pm, Hart or Mary Jo  Corbett at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I don't have any comments except to say that the Minolta site has been
 acting as though it has a virus.  I've tried it a couple of times over the
 last few weeks and only get the home page.  It ties up my computer for 10 to
 15 minutes before one can even sign off.  It's not downloading anything on
 my Mac but I can't get to any of the other pages of the site, either.  No
 other site of any kind has ever acted like this.  I recommend staying away
 from it.

 It's been like this for a long time; if Minolta can't even repair its own
 Web site, how trustworthy can any of its electronic products really be?

 Hart Corbett


 Er...I think it may be you who has a virus. The site functions perfectly on
 both Mac and PC.

 Richard

 



Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread Gordon Tassi

Sara Jane:  Welcome to the group.  Your problem may be related to the bit level of
the scan if you are not using PS 6.  The earlier versions will not allow some of
the PS tools, like layers, wand, etc., to work in anything other than the 8 bit
mode.  With the image opened in  PS, open the image menu and click Mode.  At the
bottom of the new menu there will be a check mark next to the either 8 bit or 16
bit.  If 16 bit is checked check click 8 bit.  That should allow you to use all PS
tools.  If 8 bit is checked when you open the menu, someone else in the group will
have to help you.

It is best to use as many PS tools as you can with 16 bit checked, then go to 8
bit.  It is also better to go back to 16 bit mode when you save your final image as
some quality is lost when going from 16 bit to 8 bit.  The larger 16 bit saved file
size will use more disk space.

I hope this helps.

Gordon

Sara Jane Boyers wrote:

  BUT in Photoshop (in a Photoshop file), I am unable to manipulate the
 slide... it won't allow me to make new layers, won't truly select,
 and I am unable to print.Any thougts or where I should look?


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Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread IronWorks

It sounds like the format of the scanned result may be wrong somehow.  Try
changing the format first either in your scanning software or in Photoshop
and maybe some clue will develop.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: "Sara Jane Boyers" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie


| Hi - I queried various scanners on this list several months ago and
| yesterday bought myslef a Minolta Scan Slite.  I use Photoshop on a
| Mac powerbook G3, downloaded the newest updates and scanned my first
| slide using the navigation/automatic so that I could at least see
| what the scanner will do.
|
| All went well and the image is appearing on my monitor BUT in
| Photoshop (in a Photoshop file), I am unable to manipulate the
| slide... it won't allow me to make new layers, won't truly select,
| and I am unable to print.  I know this is a silly basic question but
| what am I doing wrong or what haven't I done?  Is it in in the
| scanner or something I need to change in Photoshop?  I have used
| Photoshop before and cannot figure out what this is won't work?  Any
| thougts or where I should look?
|
| The Minolta site isn't helpful and so far, neighter are the photoshop
| books nor thehelp.
|
| Thanks for any information.. I'm raring to go and getting frustrated here.
|
| --
| Sara Jane Boyers
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.teenpowerpolitics.com
| TEEN POWER POLITICS: MAKE YOURSELF HEARD
|   A Millbrook Press/Twenty-First Century Book
|   ISBN: 0-7613-1391-5, paper $9.95/ISBN 0-7613-1307-9 hardcover,
$24.90
|   Email me if you'd like to be on my newsletter update list!
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for
|   Teens", ALA "Book for Reluctant Readers", AIGA "50 Best Designed
| Books"
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Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread soho

 Hi - I queried various scanners on this list several months ago and
 yesterday bought myslef a Minolta Scan Slite.  I use Photoshop on a
 Mac powerbook G3, downloaded the newest updates and scanned my first
 slide using the navigation/automatic so that I could at least see
 what the scanner will do.
 
 All went well and the image is appearing on my monitor BUT in
 Photoshop (in a Photoshop file), I am unable to manipulate the
 slide... it won't allow me to make new layers, won't truly select,
 and I am unable to print.  I know this is a silly basic question but
 what am I doing wrong or what haven't I done?  Is it in in the
 scanner or something I need to change in Photoshop?  I have used
 Photoshop before and cannot figure out what this is won't work?  Any
 thougts or where I should look?
 
 The Minolta site isn't helpful and so far, neighter are the photoshop
 books nor thehelp.
 

Hi Sara

At a guess I would say the you have scanned the image at 16bit/channel
(48bit) which is the correct method to get the best from the scanner and
will allow for greater latitude when adjusting Levels, Saturation etc in PS.

To convert the image to 8bit/channel, from the Image menu go
Mode/8bit/channel. But before you do, make any adjustments you feel
necessary such Levels, Curves, Saturation, Crop, UnsharpMask (PS6 only).

When in 16bit only certain functions are available.

Hope this helps.

Richard




Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread Hart or Mary Jo Corbett

I don't have any comments except to say that the Minolta site has been 
acting as though it has a virus.  I've tried it a couple of times over the
last few weeks and only get the home page.  It ties up my computer for 10 to
15 minutes before one can even sign off.  It's not downloading anything on
my Mac but I can't get to any of the other pages of the site, either.  No
other site of any kind has ever acted like this.  I recommend staying away
from it.

It's been like this for a long time; if Minolta can't even repair its own
Web site, how trustworthy can any of its electronic products really be?

Hart Corbett

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From: Sara Jane Boyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie
Date: Sat, Jan 20, 2001, 7:24 AM


 Hi - I queried various scanners on this list several months ago and
 yesterday bought myslef a Minolta Scan Slite.  I use Photoshop on a
 Mac powerbook G3, downloaded the newest updates and scanned my first
 slide using the navigation/automatic so that I could at least see
 what the scanner will do.

 All went well and the image is appearing on my monitor BUT in
 Photoshop (in a Photoshop file), I am unable to manipulate the
 slide... it won't allow me to make new layers, won't truly select,
 and I am unable to print.  I know this is a silly basic question but
 what am I doing wrong or what haven't I done?  Is it in in the
 scanner or something I need to change in Photoshop?  I have used
 Photoshop before and cannot figure out what this is won't work?  Any
 thougts or where I should look?

 The Minolta site isn't helpful and so far, neighter are the photoshop
 books nor thehelp.

 Thanks for any information.. I'm raring to go and getting frustrated here.

 --
 Sara Jane Boyers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.teenpowerpolitics.com
 TEEN POWER POLITICS: MAKE YOURSELF HEARD
   A Millbrook Press/Twenty-First Century Book
   ISBN: 0-7613-1391-5, paper $9.95/ISBN 0-7613-1307-9 hardcover,
$24.90
   Email me if you'd like to be on my newsletter update list!
 LIFE DOESN'T FRIGHTEN ME   Stewart, Tabori  Chang
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   Teens", ALA "Book for Reluctant Readers", AIGA "50 Best Designed
  Books"
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Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread Michael Moore

Sara: I have a Minolta Scan Elite... It is a great scanner, easy to use, etc. I use
mine on a Compaq desktop Windows system with Photoshop 6... A couple of things you
might want to try
1. Check your preferences on the scanner to see what mode you have it set to, that
is 8 bit, 16 bit, or 16 bit linear... 16 bit linear will appear as a positive in
Minolta's preview, but will scan as a neg into Photoshop (if you are using neg
film)... This is the way I use it, and then invert in Photoshop, after which I
adjust levels, etc.
 I assume you are using a direct import via TWAIN or whatever Macs use to import
the scan directly into PShop...

2. Once the scan is complete and you see the image in the Photoshop window, as well
as the ScanElite window, close the scan elite window... close the program,  don't
just minimize, or you will not be able to do anything with the PS image because the
Scan software is still in control

3. If you have a neg image, then go to the Image pulldown, then the Adjust pulldown
and look 3/4 of the way down that menu to Invert... this will get you from a neg to
a pos I used to fight to get a full tonal range when I let Minolta software do
the inversion when it made the scan... this gives me a full tonal range and I don't
seem to have any lingering orange mask...

4. If you scan for a pos image and you are in 16 mode, or you have inverted you are
in 16 bit mode, you can do a number of adjustments (more with PS6 than 5.5)...
the magic wand won't work, though... once you have adjusted levels or curves and
color, brightness, crop, etc. in 16 bit, then you can go to 8 bit mode (Image
pulldown, Mode from there, 3/4 down to set to 8 bit).

By the way, A GREAT PS book for photogs (and I have a bunch of them) is Photoshop 5
 5.5 Artistry by Barry Haynes and Wendy Crumpler, published by New Riders... list
is about US$55... written by a photographer for photographers... well illustrated
with an accompanying CD so you can walk through the exercises... gives oe of the
best explanations with practical advice on Color Control and Color Space I've
read... as well as advice on scanning negs

Hope this helps.

Mike Moore

Sara Jane Boyers wrote:

 Hi - I queried various scanners on this list several months ago and
 yesterday bought myslef a Minolta Scan Slite.  I use Photoshop on a
 Mac powerbook G3, downloaded the newest updates and scanned my first
 slide using the navigation/automatic so that I could at least see
 what the scanner will do.

 All went well and the image is appearing on my monitor BUT in
 Photoshop (in a Photoshop file), I am unable to manipulate the
 slide... it won't allow me to make new layers, won't truly select,
 and I am unable to print.  I know this is a silly basic question but
 what am I doing wrong or what haven't I done?  Is it in in the
 scanner or something I need to change in Photoshop?  I have used
 Photoshop before and cannot figure out what this is won't work?  Any
 thougts or where I should look?

 The Minolta site isn't helpful and so far, neighter are the photoshop
 books nor thehelp.

 Thanks for any information.. I'm raring to go and getting frustrated here.

 --
 Sara Jane Boyers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.teenpowerpolitics.com
 TEEN POWER POLITICS: MAKE YOURSELF HEARD
   A Millbrook Press/Twenty-First Century Book
   ISBN: 0-7613-1391-5, paper $9.95/ISBN 0-7613-1307-9 hardcover, $24.90
   Email me if you'd like to be on my newsletter update list!
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Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread soho

on 20/1/01 8:04 pm, Hart or Mary Jo  Corbett at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I don't have any comments except to say that the Minolta site has been
 acting as though it has a virus.  I've tried it a couple of times over the
 last few weeks and only get the home page.  It ties up my computer for 10 to
 15 minutes before one can even sign off.  It's not downloading anything on
 my Mac but I can't get to any of the other pages of the site, either.  No
 other site of any kind has ever acted like this.  I recommend staying away
 from it.
 
 It's been like this for a long time; if Minolta can't even repair its own
 Web site, how trustworthy can any of its electronic products really be?
 
 Hart Corbett
 

Er...I think it may be you who has a virus. The site functions perfectly on
both Mac and PC.

Richard




Re: filmscanners: new problem from scanner newbie

2001-01-20 Thread Sara Jane Boyers

Thank you so many for such clear and prompt replies to my query! It 
was easy as mentioned and I did change from 16 bit to 8 bit in "Mode" 
and the problem - at least this one - was resolved!  I am on 
Photoshop 5 and realize that perhaps I better upgrade although this 
was not a PS problem but one of ignorance for me.  Think I'll try to 
stay here a while and see what I can learn and... perhaps contribute 
from time to time from my own learning curve.

Well... I'm off to print my first scan.. then I'll get into the real 
work of seeing what the scanner really does... already it's just 
wonderful to see a sharp image on my monitor (my flatbed never did 
could do it, even with a transparency adapter) and be able to do it 
myself!  There's a lot of my slides waiting here for possible 
projects!

Thanks again... although you may be hearing from me soon I get into 
the process!  This was my birthday present to the dismay of friends 
who said they would have preferred new earrings for their 
birthday .   But I'll happily spend the rest of my birthday 
evening scanning away!

And... I apologize for all the typos.  I spell wonderfully but am a 
way too quick typist and depending upon editors and such for final 
revision and there is no spell checker in my email program.


BTW, I hadn't any problem on my MAC getting on the Minolta site.




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