Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
Both Jari and Eric suggested "reflow systems across pages" as the possible cause of this problem. This box is ticked and always has been - I have never changed it. Best wishes, Michael Lawlor - Original Message - From: "Jari Williamsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06 October 2002 12:55 Subject: Re: [Finale] Odd layout. > Michael Lawlor writes: > > > This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not true > > (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set and > > have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is > > duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine page' to > > fix this problem. > > Do you have "Reflow Systems Across Page" set in the Update Layout > Options? > > > Best regards, > > Jari Williamsson > ICQ #: 78036563 > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
Thanks for all input on this prob. As ever, much appreciated! BTW- What the Zero say to the Eight?- Nice Belt!! Regards, Keith in OZ - Original Message - From: Éric Dussault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Finale List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Odd layout. > > Le dimanche, 6 oct 2002, à 03:27 America/Montreal, Michael Lawlor a > écrit : > > > This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not > > true > > (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set > > and > > have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is > > duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine > > page' to > > fix this problem. > > > > This also occurs with 'automatic music spacing' where certain > > circumstances > > seem to bypass the spacing process and it is necessary to click on a > > measure, with speedy input, and then click somewhere else on the page > > (or > > run music spacing to fix several staves at once). > > > > I have not managed to work out what the real cause of either of these > > errors > > is yet. > > > > Michael Lawlor > > Is the option « reflow systems evenly » checked? I did once forget to > check it and hat problems similar as yours. > > Eric > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
Le dimanche, 6 oct 2002, à 03:27 America/Montreal, Michael Lawlor a écrit : > This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not > true > (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set > and > have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is > duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine > page' to > fix this problem. > > This also occurs with 'automatic music spacing' where certain > circumstances > seem to bypass the spacing process and it is necessary to click on a > measure, with speedy input, and then click somewhere else on the page > (or > run music spacing to fix several staves at once). > > I have not managed to work out what the real cause of either of these > errors > is yet. > > Michael Lawlor Is the option « reflow systems evenly » checked? I did once forget to check it and hat problems similar as yours. Eric ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
Michael Lawlor writes: > This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not true > (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set and > have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is > duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine page' to > fix this problem. Do you have "Reflow Systems Across Page" set in the Update Layout Options? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ICQ #: 78036563 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
> helgesen writes: > > > Why does this happen? Working on a three stave work, in scroll > > view, I go to page view (pre-print) and page one shows > > measures 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24. > > Page 2 shows 7-12, 13-18, 19--24, 25--30. > > Page 3 shows 13--18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. and so on! > > Easily fixed by Control U, (page update), but easy to miss at a quick > > glance. I got caught one time and did about a 17 page printout > > for 90-odd measures! Ouch! > Jari Williamsson writes: > Because you have turned Automatic Update Layout OFF. There are many > good reasons to turn this setting off, but you have to remember to update > the layout yourself when needed. This would be a simple explanation and easy to fix, except it is not true (for 2002a on Windows). I always have 'automatic update layout' set and have found a number of situations where the last system on a page is duplicated on the next page. I have usually had to use 'Redefine page' to fix this problem. This also occurs with 'automatic music spacing' where certain circumstances seem to bypass the spacing process and it is necessary to click on a measure, with speedy input, and then click somewhere else on the page (or run music spacing to fix several staves at once). I have not managed to work out what the real cause of either of these errors is yet. Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
At 2:54 PM +1000 10/05/02, helgesen wrote: >Why does this happen? Working on a three stave work, in scroll view, I go to >page view (pre-print) and page one shows measures 1-6, 7-12, >13-18, 19-24. >Page 2 shows 7-12, 13-18, 19--24, 25--30. >Page 3 shows 13--18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. and so on! >Easily fixed by Control U, (page update), but easy to miss at a quick >glance. I got caught one time and did about a 17 page printout for 90-odd >measures! Ouch! >On WinFin 2001d, regards, Keith in OZ Yep, I hear you! The key command for Update Layout needs to be as automatic as blinking for you, and the last thing you do before printing. Sorry for the bad news. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
I think this is a throwback to the older days when screen redraws took a lot of time and really slowed things down. With this, assuming you could keep things straight in your head, you could move things around on screen and when you were finally ready to "set things in stone" you could hit ctrl-u and get everything moved exactly as you had wanted. It is something I learned early on -- each time I go to page view I hit ctrl-u, each time I move things around in page view I hit ctrl-u, each time I add anything in page view I hit ctrl-u (well, actually, if I am adding a bunch of things to a single page I will work on that page until I think I am finished and then I will hit crtl-u.) And while a lot of the computers that we use these days don't have the slow screen-redraw issue any longer, I would bet that removing that behavior would be a programming nightmare. They even added Automatic Update Layout as an option, but it doesn't seem to cover all the updating functions that ctrl-u covers. helgesen wrote: > Why does this happen? Working on a three stave work, in scroll view, I go to > page view (pre-print) and page one shows measures 1-6, 7-12, > 13-18, 19-24. > Page 2 shows 7-12, 13-18, 19--24, 25--30. > Page 3 shows 13--18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. and so on! > Easily fixed by Control U, (page update), but easy to miss at a quick > glance. I got caught one time and did about a 17 page printout for 90-odd > measures! Ouch! > On WinFin 2001d, regards, Keith in OZ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Odd layout.
helgesen writes: > Why does this happen? Working on a three stave work, in scroll > view, I go to page view (pre-print) and page one shows > measures 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24. > Page 2 shows 7-12, 13-18, 19--24, 25--30. > Page 3 shows 13--18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36. and so on! > Easily fixed by Control U, (page update), but easy to miss at a quick > glance. I got caught one time and did about a 17 page printout > for 90-odd measures! Ouch! Because you have turned Automatic Update Layout OFF. There are many good reasons to turn this setting off, but you have to remember to update the layout yourself when needed. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ICQ #: 78036563 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
