Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread James Bailey
For most purposes, a regular $99 scanner should do you fine. Most of the
higher-end scanners, I've noticed, do things that scan to larger formats,
ability to scan transparencies (negatives, positives). The average person
doesn't ever need anything like that. I'd imagine that ability for a book to
lay flat would be a good thing for you Œthough.


On 10.09.2004 15:13 Uhr, "Michael J. Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?
> I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending
> about $250 or so for a really good one.
> 
> What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
> use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
> just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.
> 
> I am using Windows XP, SP2...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike
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Re: [Finale] Jazz chord

2004-09-10 Thread Carl Dershem
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:46:24 -0400, John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 9:17 AM -0500 9/9/04, SCOTT GREEN wrote:
... wiping eyes, trying not to disturb cow-orkers with convulsing
laughter ...  I think the only thing better would've been trying to
teach bassoonists how to Swing.
No, actually Presbyterians.

Hey... I'm both a bassoonist and a Presbyterian (though I didn't
"start out" with either), and one of my black friends once said that I
was "the blackest white guy" he knew.
In terms of playing jazz, that is.
OK ... and just how many other jazz bassoonists does he know?
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Re: [Finale] Jazz chord

2004-09-10 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:46:24 -0400, John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 9:17 AM -0500 9/9/04, SCOTT GREEN wrote:
> >... wiping eyes, trying not to disturb cow-orkers with convulsing
> >laughter ...  I think the only thing better would've been trying to
> >teach bassoonists how to Swing.
> 
> No, actually Presbyterians.

Hey... I'm both a bassoonist and a Presbyterian (though I didn't
"start out" with either), and one of my black friends once said that I
was "the blackest white guy" he knew.

In terms of playing jazz, that is.

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Re: [Finale] Jazz chord

2004-09-10 Thread John Howell
No, actually Presbyterians.
John
At 9:17 AM -0500 9/9/04, SCOTT GREEN wrote:
... wiping eyes, trying not to disturb cow-orkers with convulsing 
laughter ...  I think the only thing better would've been trying to 
teach bassoonists how to Swing.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/9/04 12:01 AM >>>

  I remember sitting in on some Pops concerts where the featured Jazz
Artist spent 15 minutes trying to teach the oboes how to Swing.  It was
priceless, and a rare opportunity to see actual Hubris at work.


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Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread Richard Yates
> Don't put your hopes up too much for music scanning. It can be useful but
> really it only works in rare cases. Most of the time it is quicker to
enter
> all the music using speedy.

My experience recently has been much better than this. I scanned several
baroque harpsichord sonatas (mostly two voice counterpoint) and it was much
faster than note entry would have been. There are quirks still, and I do not
know how one would actually put a percent accuracy on it, but in this case
it saved me a lot of time.

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RE: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread Jim Mays
I find that scanning music simply "depends."

I had reason to require Dvorak's Requiem in Finale a year ago. If I recall
the score is about two hundred pages long. 

I xeroxed the score, scanned it using a consumer level Epson scanner, OCR'd
it using SharpEye and imported it into Finale using MusicXML. 

I'll be darned if it wasn't bad at all. Sure some accidentals got dinged;
occasionally some key signatures short-changed. Using MIDI playback was a
simple way to test. 

Other times, I have scanned recent, very well done scores and ended up with
a lot of headache. 

In my experience the SharpEye/Music XML combo works pretty nicely indeed.
The engraving style and accuracy of the scanned piece makes the difference. 


/Jim

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Michael J. Barry wrote:
>
>   Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?
> I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending
> about $250 or so for a really good one.
>
>   What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
> use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
> just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.
>
>   I am using Windows XP, SP2...
>
>   Thanks!
>

"scan music in for Smartmusic playback" isn't as easy as it sounds.

First you have you scan the music in, which means that the music
scanning software will make its best guess about the dots and lines and
stuff, and put that into an intermediary file which Finale will import
and then make its best guess before turning it into notation on your
monitor.

Then you have to go through and check each
note/rest/accidental/expression/whatever out and make certain it is correct.

Then you have to assign all the voices you want on each staff, and THEN
save as a SmartMusic file for playing with the SmartMusic program.

Music scanning is still in its infancy, with accuracy rates on perfect
originals somewhere around 85%, and for less than perfect originals (say
old dog-eared music which was originally hand-engraved) it can be lower
than 50%.

So buy the scanner because you want a scanner, not specifically for
Finale use.

But don't expect to go Scan, Import, Save-as-SmartMusic,
open-Smartmusic-and-play in just a few clicks.


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Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread dumusic
I made an interesting discovery that I want to share with you.  FYI, I use a 
PC with WinXP SP2 and Finale 2005.

For the longest time (which seems at this point forever) I was frustrated by 
my inability to get SmartScore Lite to recognize my .tif scans.  I was using 
an ARTEC scanner.  Whenever I would try to open a black and white 300dpi 
.tif file I would get an error message that the file was not compatible.  No 
amount of tweaking the settings would produce a readable file.  I bought a 
Lexmark X5250 scanner/copier/printer hoping that it would provide a better 
.tif file.  Same result; unrecognizable file format.

I read the user manual section on scanning and was generally disappointed 
that I seemed to be forever stuck with keying in or hyperscribing data into 
Finale.

Then the technological cloud parted and I saw the light!
Forget scanning into .tif format.  It may or may not work.  Scan and save as 
a .bmp (bitmap) format, then open that image in your graphics editor and 
save it as a .tif file.

Voila!  It works every time!
Your scanner may not be able to generate a compatible .tif image.  However, 
your graphics editor will be able to do it.  Try it.

Guy Hayden, Minister of Music
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Re: [Finale] State Songs (was Anthems) (still OT)

2004-09-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 9, 2004, at 5:23 PM, leti wrote:
The "O Christmas Tree" tune is not the original tune for the Maryland
state song.  For a short time they had the same words, but a different
tune.  Sorry, I don't remember the tune.  But a couple of years ago we
went to a concert by the Gay Men's Chorus of Maryland, and they sang 
the
state song to the original tune.  It was odd to hear the familiar words
to a different tune!
I can think of a couple of Christmas carols that set the same text to 
more than one tune, the most famous being "Away in a Manger".  The old 
Confederate anthem ("God Save the South") had at least two different 
tunes.

I can also think of a several poems that have been set as art songs 
more than once

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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Sep 2004 at 18:17, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> > Therefore, the only safe and prudent way to use your computer is to
> > create a USER logon that you use as a regular basis that has only
> > USER-level permissions. The result is that less damage can be done
> > to your system if a rogue program is executed. It also means that
> > whenever you need to install software or hardware (or change
> > software/hardware configurations), you must log on as an
> > ADMINISTRATIVE-level user. Some people seem to find this minor
> > inconvenience intolerably irritating and use this minor extra step
> > as justification for skipping the safe step of working normally as a
> > user-level logon. I don't understand why people are so willing to
> > give up the safety because of such a minor inconvenience. It reminds
> > of people who won't wear seat belts in automobiles.
> 
> In OS X, this problem is solved by requiring even users who have admin
> privileges to authenticate (i.e., enter their password) before they
> perform admin-level tasks, like installing software, etc.

That would be a very good idea.

> It also allows non-admin level users to perform admin-level tasks,
> without logging out, if they can supply the name and password of an
> admin-level user.

The su program in UNIXen, and the RunAs service in Windows. I have 
RunAs disabled, BTW, and I think it's a good thing, since a rogue 
program could easily impersonate the RunAs service to steal 
usernames/passwords.

> There may be flaws in this method that I'm not aware of, but it does
> seem (to me, at least) that it gives basically the same level of
> security as having separate admin and user accounts for the same
> person (since a password is always required for all admin-level
> actions), but without the hassle of having to log off and log on again
> using a different user profile.

I'll have to think about that. It does seem attractive, except for 
the password stealing scenario I outlined.

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Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread dhbailey
Michael J. Barry wrote:
Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?
I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending
about $250 or so for a really good one.
	What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.  

I am using Windows XP, SP2...
Thanks!
"scan music in for Smartmusic playback" isn't as easy as it sounds.
First you have you scan the music in, which means that the music 
scanning software will make its best guess about the dots and lines and 
stuff, and put that into an intermediary file which Finale will import 
and then make its best guess before turning it into notation on your 
monitor.

Then you have to go through and check each 
note/rest/accidental/expression/whatever out and make certain it is correct.

Then you have to assign all the voices you want on each staff, and THEN 
save as a SmartMusic file for playing with the SmartMusic program.

Music scanning is still in its infancy, with accuracy rates on perfect 
originals somewhere around 85%, and for less than perfect originals (say 
old dog-eared music which was originally hand-engraved) it can be lower 
than 50%.

So buy the scanner because you want a scanner, not specifically for 
Finale use.

But don't expect to go Scan, Import, Save-as-SmartMusic, 
open-Smartmusic-and-play in just a few clicks.

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Re: [Finale] State Songs (was Anthems) (still OT)

2004-09-10 Thread Crystal Premo
I don't consider whistleability the standard.  If that were the case 
"Maryland, my Christmas Tree", would beat both yours and mine. <<
Are you sure you don't mean "Michigan, My Christmas Tree"?
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Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.09.2004 0:13 Uhr, Michael J. Barry wrote

> What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
> use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
> just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.

Don't put your hopes up too much for music scanning. It can be useful but
really it only works in rare cases. Most of the time it is quicker to enter
all the music using speedy.

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Re: [Finale] Jazz Chord

2004-09-10 Thread Crystal Premo
You had mentioned in a previous post that she has used the manuscripts 
before in performances and had always gotten what she had wanted, which is 
why she wants the engraved version to be exactly the same.
You might consider pointing out that she had gotten what she had wanted 
previously simply because everybody had ignored the specific chord marking 
and had played essentially a Gmin chord, voiced as they wanted.<<

I will keep that in mind.  Maybe her players just look past what they see 
written there and play what they know she wants to hear.  I'm not sure I 
want to be the one to point out that the emperor is naked, though.

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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David,
Therefore, the only safe and prudent way to use your computer is to
create a USER logon that you use as a regular basis that has only
USER-level permissions. The result is that less damage can be done to
your system if a rogue program is executed. It also means that
whenever you need to install software or hardware (or change
software/hardware configurations), you must log on as an
ADMINISTRATIVE-level user. Some people seem to find this minor
inconvenience intolerably irritating and use this minor extra step as
justification for skipping the safe step of working normally as a
user-level logon. I don't understand why people are so willing to
give up the safety because of such a minor inconvenience. It reminds
of people who won't wear seat belts in automobiles.
In OS X, this problem is solved by requiring even users who have admin 
privileges to authenticate (i.e., enter their password) before they 
perform admin-level tasks, like installing software, etc.

It also allows non-admin level users to perform admin-level tasks, 
without logging out, if they can supply the name and password of an 
admin-level user.

There may be flaws in this method that I'm not aware of, but it does 
seem (to me, at least) that it gives basically the same level of 
security as having separate admin and user accounts for the same person 
(since a password is always required for all admin-level actions), but 
without the hassle of having to log off and log on again using a 
different user profile.

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[Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread Michael J. Barry


Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?
I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending
about $250 or so for a really good one.

What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.  

I am using Windows XP, SP2...

Thanks!

Mike

 

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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Sep 2004 at 22:06, d. collins wrote:

> David W. Fenton écrit:
> >2. you're already using your PC with a user-level logon (not
> >administrative).
> 
> Could you please explain this in more detail (in the case of Win2K)?

You are a computer user. But you do different kinds of tasks:

1. reading email, typing letters, creating Finale documents, simply 
manipulating data (and doing nothing to the system).

2. installing software, installing new hardware, etc., and otherwise 
altering the configuration of the system itself.

The first group of tasks are USER tasks, the second ADMINISTRATIVE 
tasks. USER tasks manipulate data. ADMINISTRATIVE tasks manipulate 
the configuration of the system itself.

To accomplish the first group of tasks you do not need the power to 
do the second group of tasks.

Every NT-based version of Windows has always shipped with certain 
predefined user groups, each with its own associated set of 
permissions and privileges. The two key groups are USERS and 
ADMINISTRATORS. When you initially set up an NT-based Windows 
computer, the first account you create is the default ADMINISTRATOR 
account. This is the ROOT account on your PC, the one that has 
special status as your PC's God, so to speak. That logon has 
permission to alter and change EVERYTHING on your PC, full permission 
and privileges on everything.

It is not wise to log on as ROOT on a regular basis, because you can 
accidentally do damage to your system, especially if you were to 
inadvertently execute a worm, virus or Trojan -- any program you 
launch as ROOT inherits all the permissions of the user logon it is 
running as.

Therefore, the only safe and prudent way to use your computer is to 
create a USER logon that you use as a regular basis that has only 
USER-level permissions. The result is that less damage can be done to 
your system if a rogue program is executed. It also means that 
whenever you need to install software or hardware (or change 
software/hardware configurations), you must log on as an 
ADMINISTRATIVE-level user. Some people seem to find this minor 
inconvenience intolerably irritating and use this minor extra step as 
justification for skipping the safe step of working normally as a 
user-level logon. I don't understand why people are so willing to 
give up the safety because of such a minor inconvenience. It reminds 
of people who won't wear seat belts in automobiles.

A few random points:

1. some older software was not designed to be able to run properly 
with only user-level access. For instance, with the user-level 
permissions for writing to the system registry of Win2K and WinXP, 
Word 97's spell checker won't run (in NT 4, the permissions on the 
Office 97 registry keys were more permissive). This is easily fixed 
by changing giving the USERS group full control of the appropriate 
Office 97 registry key (it's one of the Proofing Tools keys). 
Irritatingly, there are lots of software installers that long post-
date NT that still aren't designed on the assumption that the 
programs they install need to be able to be run with only user-level 
permissions (indeed, most installers should be able to install with 
only user-level permissions, since it's perfectly conceivable that 
software would be installed only for the currently logged-on user; 
many installers stiill can't do this). This causes some programs to 
break when run under a user-level logon. The only case where this is 
OK would be for installers created for NT 4 (i.e., before the release 
of Win2K, which tightened permissions/privileges significantly in 
comparison to NT 4), and that means installers created before about 
1999 (when Win2K was released). Any software that postdates the 
release of Win2K should have been designed by default to run 
perfectly OK with only user-level permissions.

2. Microsoft has configured the Windows setup process to encourage 
users to do two very unsafe things:

  a. run as an administrative-level user

  b. log on automatically.

This is so that the new NT-based versions of Windows seem to work 
just like the old versions of Windows, where you were always running 
as root and didn't have to log on to the system, and so that users 
never run into the "you don't have permission to do this" prompt. The 
problem with this is, of course, that you then lose all the benefits 
of having a built-in security system and access control lists (ACLs) 
that restrict access to objects in the system registry and in the 
file system. The other result of this is that the vast majority of 
home users haven't a clue why they are getting infected with 
everything under the sun -- it's actually because they are running in 
the most insecure configuration imaginable.

Basically, the current computer ecosystem demands that you be a good 
citizen and *not* run in a configuration that allows rogue software 
to infect your machine.

Now, it is certainly the case that even running as a restricted user 
you can infect y

[Finale] SP2

2004-09-10 Thread Steven Gruver
I installed 2005 over SP2 and it works fine

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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Sep 2004 at 8:54, Raymond Horton wrote:

> What is the consensus on Sp2?
> I'm running WinFin 2005.

I would recommend against installing SP2 for about 6 months, after 
the serious bugs have been ironed out and after software that is 
broken by SP2 will have patches.

Of course, I assume certain things:

1. you've already got a firewall in place.

2. you're already using your PC with a user-level logon (not 
administrative).

3. you don't use IE in the first place as it's a pile of crap.

>From my point of view, SP2 offers nothing that you shouldn't already 
have, because WinXP is an insecure pile of crap (as is Win2K in that 
regard), and because you should have been doing these things to be 
secure already.

All that said, if you choose to apply SP2, be sure to create a 
Restore Point before doing so. That way, if SP2 is bad for your 
system, you can roll it back to the state before SP2 was installed.

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RE: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread drjazz00
After I installed 2005

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Did you install SP2 before or after installing Finale 2005?


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I'm running Windows XP Pro and installed SP2... 
Everything including Finale 2005 is working fine...
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Re: [Finale] printer advice needed

2004-09-10 Thread Javier Ruiz
Andrew, why don´t you look at the GCC Elite XL40DN. It is 40 ppm and comes
with the duplexer for 2,199 $.

You can find it at http://www.smalldog.com/product/46568.ç

I have no experience with this model but the brand has a solid reputation.

[If I recall well someone in the list has one really old.]

Javier.


> I currently have an HP LaserJet 5000N printer, wh. I love. I need to
> replace it soon, however, because the duplexer keeps failing (I'm on my
> third, and it too is beginning to go). The equivalent new printer from
> HP is the 5100tn, but there too the duplexer is an optional add-on, and
> the person I spoke to at HP had no info on its robustness.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a solid, long-lived printer that can do all of the
> following for under ca. $2300?
> 
> B&W
> Mac compatible.
> prints up to 11X17 pp.
> at least 2 input trays, pref. 3.
> can handle all paper weights from 20 lb. bond up to 65-lb. cover stock.
> Can duplex all sizes of paper up to 11X17, and all weights up to 28 lb.
> 15 or more pp./min.
> At least 1200x1200 dpi.
> 
> Andrew Stiller
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[Finale] printer advice needed

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
I currently have an HP LaserJet 5000N printer, wh. I love. I need to 
replace it soon, however, because the duplexer keeps failing (I'm on my 
third, and it too is beginning to go). The equivalent new printer from 
HP is the 5100tn, but there too the duplexer is an optional add-on, and 
the person I spoke to at HP had no info on its robustness.

Can anyone recommend a solid, long-lived printer that can do all of the 
following for under ca. $2300?

B&W
Mac compatible.
prints up to 11X17 pp.
at least 2 input trays, pref. 3.
can handle all paper weights from 20 lb. bond up to 65-lb. cover stock.
Can duplex all sizes of paper up to 11X17, and all weights up to 28 lb.
15 or more pp./min.
At least 1200x1200 dpi.
Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] output level

2004-09-10 Thread Lynn Gold
On Sep 10, 2004, at 5:50 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
I imported a MIDI file that I had created with another notation 
program.
Finale (Mac2k3) did a great job on the importation, but I was unable 
to
make the imported staff play back at a reasonable volume.  It made no
difference what dynamics were indicated on the part.  When I added the
remaining 4 voices their volumes were loud enough.
I might add that I did Speedy Entry on the additional voices.
Any ideas as to why one voice's volume acted differently from the 
rest?
In the Playback Options you should UNcheck Play Recorded Velocities 
and UNcheck Play Recorded Continuous Data.

Perhaps that will work, if the original midi you imported had a 
quieter volume or lower velocities for that particular channel.
I've had to tweak the velocities of the imported notes by hand using 
the MIDI tool when this has happened.  It's ugly, but it works.

--Lynn
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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread Wade KOTTER
Did you install SP2 before or after installing Finale 2005?


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I'm running Windows XP Pro and installed SP2... 
Everything including Finale 2005 is working fine...
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Re: [Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread Marvin Rosenthal
I'm running Windows XP Pro and installed SP2... 
Everything including Finale 2005 is working fine...


--- Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is the consensus on Sp2?
> I'm running WinFin 2005.
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[Finale] Thanks on Expression Tool

2004-09-10 Thread George Ports



    Thanks to J.D.,Godofredo, Mark, 
Ryan, Noel, Christopher for all your great help concerning my _expression_ Tool 
problem.
    I used the symbols that 
Godofredo was so kind to send me.  All the other suggestions sound like 
good ideas too.
Thanks again,
George
 
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Re: [Finale] output level

2004-09-10 Thread Raymond Horton
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
I imported a MIDI file that I had created with another notation program.
Finale (Mac2k3) did a great job on the importation, but I was unable to
make the imported staff play back at a reasonable volume.  It made no
difference what dynamics were indicated on the part.  When I added the
remaining 4 voices their volumes were loud enough.
I might add that I did Speedy Entry on the additional voices.
Any ideas as to why one voice's volume acted differently from the rest?
 

Try "Mass Edit" "Clear Entries" "Only Selected Items" "Entries" 
"Performance Data"

RBH
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Re: [Finale] Canceling Expressions

2004-09-10 Thread Owain Sutton

dhbailey wrote:
Owain Sutton wrote:

dhbailey wrote:
Owain Sutton wrote:
[snip]
OK, more specifically.a composer wants a rit., after which the 
tempo remains at the new slower rate, but does not want to specifiy 
a metronome marking (wanting the performer to have a greater degree 
of freedom), and writes all instructions in English - what should 
he/she write?


"Continue at the slower tempo"
"Continue at the new tempo"

I suppose so.  I wish there was a less clunky way of saying it.

We're dealing with English here.  Clunky and English seem often to be 
synonymous.

LOL, true, very true...
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[Finale] SP2 Consensus?

2004-09-10 Thread Raymond Horton
What is the consensus on Sp2?
I'm running WinFin 2005.
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Re: [Finale] Canceling Expressions

2004-09-10 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote:

dhbailey wrote:
Owain Sutton wrote:
[snip]
OK, more specifically.a composer wants a rit., after which the 
tempo remains at the new slower rate, but does not want to specifiy a 
metronome marking (wanting the performer to have a greater degree of 
freedom), and writes all instructions in English - what should he/she 
write?


"Continue at the slower tempo"
"Continue at the new tempo"

I suppose so.  I wish there was a less clunky way of saying it.
We're dealing with English here.  Clunky and English seem often to be 
synonymous.

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Re: [Finale] output level

2004-09-10 Thread dhbailey
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
I imported a MIDI file that I had created with another notation program.
Finale (Mac2k3) did a great job on the importation, but I was unable to
make the imported staff play back at a reasonable volume.  It made no
difference what dynamics were indicated on the part.  When I added the
remaining 4 voices their volumes were loud enough.
I might add that I did Speedy Entry on the additional voices.
Any ideas as to why one voice's volume acted differently from the rest?
In the Playback Options you should UNcheck Play Recorded Velocities and 
UNcheck Play Recorded Continuous Data.

Perhaps that will work, if the original midi you imported had a quieter 
volume or lower velocities for that particular channel.

Another thing to think about would be whether you have inserted an 
expression which has volume or velocity assigned as playback.  I often 
will duplicate an expression simply because its appearance is what I 
want, then I edit it to display the text I want in the score, and 
occasionally I forget to check if the expression I duplicated had 
playback previously assigned to it.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [Finale] Canceling Expressions

2004-09-10 Thread Owain Sutton

dhbailey wrote:
Owain Sutton wrote:
[snip]
OK, more specifically.a composer wants a rit., after which the 
tempo remains at the new slower rate, but does not want to specifiy a 
metronome marking (wanting the performer to have a greater degree of 
freedom), and writes all instructions in English - what should he/she 
write?

"Continue at the slower tempo"
"Continue at the new tempo"
I suppose so.  I wish there was a less clunky way of saying it.
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[Finale] output level

2004-09-10 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
I imported a MIDI file that I had created with another notation program.
Finale (Mac2k3) did a great job on the importation, but I was unable to
make the imported staff play back at a reasonable volume.  It made no
difference what dynamics were indicated on the part.  When I added the
remaining 4 voices their volumes were loud enough.
I might add that I did Speedy Entry on the additional voices.

Any ideas as to why one voice's volume acted differently from the rest?




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Re: [Finale] Jazz Chord

2004-09-10 Thread dhbailey
Crystal Premo wrote:
Thanks to everyone for trying to help out with the strange chords.  I 
will pass the wisdom along gently and see if it helps to enlighten the 
client.

You had mentioned in a previous post that she has used the manuscripts 
before in performances and had always gotten what she had wanted, which 
is why she wants the engraved version to be exactly the same.

You might consider pointing out that she had gotten what she had wanted 
previously simply because everybody had ignored the specific chord 
marking and had played essentially a Gmin chord, voiced as they wanted.

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Re: [Finale] Canceling Expressions

2004-09-10 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote:
[snip]
OK, more specifically.a composer wants a rit., after which the tempo 
remains at the new slower rate, but does not want to specifiy a 
metronome marking (wanting the performer to have a greater degree of 
freedom), and writes all instructions in English - what should he/she 
write?

"Continue at the slower tempo"
"Continue at the new tempo"
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Re: [Finale] Jazz chord

2004-09-10 Thread Klaas de Jong
hi Crystal,
Strange, someone composing or arranging music and using such a nonsense
chord symbol like Fmin7sus5 no 7.
But, maybe the 5 is a typo and should be 4.
Second: min7, but no 7 means just minor, right?
Third: sus means suspended, so there shouldn't be a third in the chord; what
is meant is probably the 11 as an extension added to the chord.
Conclusion: I would use FMIadd4 or FMIadd11 (following the New Real Book
suggestions for layout, by the way, which is not possible in plain e-mail
text). And: being a jazz musician myself I would look at the notes
themselves to be sure the dear composer uses the right symbols for the
sound.
If your client really want 8 measures per system and at the same time uses
somewhat large chord symbols, you'll have to use a small point size for your
symbols, I guess, or convince him/her of your insights.
Hope this helps.
Klaas de Jong.

> From: "Crystal Premo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:47:33 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Finale] Jazz chord
> 
> My client has written (by hand) "Fmin7sus5 no7" on a single line like that.
> She insists that "min" be expressed that way, and not with a minus sign, and
> this is not going to fit over her measure.  I gotta think that there is
> another way to express this.  She wants 8 measures per system with somewhat
> large chords above, so it will be hard to have one wider measure.  I would
> like to offer her an alternative.  Any suggestions?
> 
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Re: [Finale] German library fire

2004-09-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 10.09.2004 0:21 Uhr, Martin Banner wrote

> Someone at work today mentioned they had read recently that a Germany
> library containing numerous original music manuscripts had sustained a
> serious fire. Unfortunately, my source did not recall where that fire
> was. Would anyone happen to know any more information about this?

The town is Weimar, known as the town of Goethe.

The loss is pretty dreadful.

Johannes
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