Re: [Finale] Finale 2009
Richard Yates wrote: >Looks like Engraver Slurs are finally fixed: Sure if that's what they mean by "fine-tuned" and "improved" :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Haven't they said that about Engraver Slurs in the past couple of releases? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009
Richard Yates wrote: >Looks like Engraver Slurs are finally fixed: Sure if that's what they mean by "fine-tuned" and "improved" :-) Well, it specifically says "edits made at high view percentages always produce the same results when viewed at 100% and when printed", which sure sounds like that longstanding and very annoying bug has been fixed. I was commenting on their euphemistic language. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale "Fine-tuned and improved" doesn't carry any admission of them being broken, the way a claim of "We've fixed the annoying problems with Engraver Slurs" would have done. In any event, if they really do what the PR claims, it'll be a great improvement! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] copying from existing file to make condensed scores
Hi David and Don, I thought of both of your suggestions while I was enduring this problem, as in, copying the full score file and taking out what I needed. I do my condensed score (although I despise them) with the solo line, saxs, trumpets, trombones, and rhythm, equaling a 5-staff system, with two systems on each page. Anyhow, what seemed to be making it catch was the human playback, so I just turned that off, then it worked fine. I don't mind if the HP doesn't work on a condensed score; I DO want it to work on full scores, and of course that already does -- so now I know what to do for the future. DAVID: I've inserted the signature on both scores and at the bottom of all parts...its being put to good use, and it will always be! Thanks again! -- From: "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:20 AM To: Subject: Re: [Finale] copying from existing file to make condensed scores Don Hart wrote: Hi Patrick, I'm not sure what all needs to be done for your condensed score. Seems it might help if you tried doing a 'save as' of the complete score and move/combine things as needed for your new file. At least the solo would be in place, and if the full score plays back, chances are this new file should as well. I agree that using a copy of the score and then editing the copy would be the best for a condensed score. Of course, there are different sorts of condensations, so it may or may not be possible to do what Patrick wants using the built-in tools. If Patrick is looking for a condensed score where there is the solo line, then all the saxes on one staff, all the trumpets on a second staff, all the trombones on another, then using the built-in tools would work fine to end up with a condensed score. If on the other hand he wants to end up with a piano/solo score, I think that would have to be done by hand, but it could still be done using a copy of the existing score, maintaining playable as the work went along. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! Patrick J. M. Sheehan Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor, Music Director Centennial Auditorium, Music Director & Conductor P.S. Music Host, The Saturday Night Blues: 89.5 WNIJ 9 p.m. - 12 a.m., streaming live at WNIJ.org Copyist -- The Glenn Miller Orchestra YouTube channel: MaestroPS2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-815-501-8327 (m) 1-815-285-4401 (f) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
How many haven't left 2006 yet?!! I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver slurs really *do* work now... -Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Sheehan asked: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Well, I'm still using '06, so it's probably time for me to upgrade. --- Patrick Sheehan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? > How many of you will stay with '08? Let the > discussion begin! > > > Patrick J. M. Sheehan >Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor, Music Director >Centennial Auditorium, Music Director & Conductor >P.S. Music >Host, The Saturday Night Blues: 89.5 WNIJ 9 p.m. > - 12 a.m., > streaming live at WNIJ.org >Copyist -- The Glenn Miller Orchestra >YouTube channel: MaestroPS2008 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >1-815-501-8327 (m) >1-815-285-4401 (f) > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > -- Io la Musica son, ch'ai dolci accenti So far tranquillo ogni turbato core, Et or di nobil ira et or d'amore Poss'infiammar le più gelate menti. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale 2009
Make sure you tell customer support that. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 02:34 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Finale 2009 >I looked further for my own sake just now, and not having upgraded to >2K8 will cost me an extra $50. I don't think so. That's an >offer I CAN and will refuse. Same here. Sticking with 2007. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Patrick Sheehan wrote: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? Yes. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
--- Cecil Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many haven't left 2006 yet?!! > > I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver > slurs really *do* work now... > That's why I'm thinking of ugrading. > -Cecil Rigby > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Patrick Sheehan asked: > > Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? > How many of you will stay with '08? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > -- Io la Musica son, ch'ai dolci accenti So far tranquillo ogni turbato core, Et or di nobil ira et or d'amore Poss'infiammar le più gelate menti. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
On Thu, July 10, 2008 11:05 am, Lora Crighton wrote: > --- Cecil Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver >> slurs really *do* work now... > > That's why I'm thinking of ugrading. If other vector features worked, then I'd really pay attention! I'm talking Shape Designer -- a feature very important to the work I do. It's clumsy (unimproved in what, 15 years?), buggy, non-WYSIWYG (like the Engraver Slurs) and feature-starved. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! I'll upgrade, but keep 2008 working in parallel until I'm comfortable with 09. I use 2008 on a daily basis, both in teaching as well as my personal composition/arrangements/whatever and I can only say how pleased I am to the stability as well as the functionality, it's such a shift from the earlier versions. / Chris B ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Patrick Sheehan queried: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? Even though I see important functions that don't seem to be addressed (fixing and improving linked parts, for example), this upgrade doesn't seem to have too much added fluff. The improvements in the way we can work with expressions is one I've been dreaming about for years. Of course, we'll have to wait and see how well it actually works. It often takes a few versions to weed out the worst bugs. -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Finale 2009 announced
On 10 Jul 2008, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naturally, nothing is mentioned yet about fixing what's currently wrong or requiring kludgy workarounds, particularly with linked parts. I'm still on 2K7 and there's a lot of swearing at my Mac every time I work in Finale. How about linked parts now allowing the breaking up of tutti parts (that is, two parts on a single line in score being represented in the linked parts as two separate parts). That alone had me avoiding using linked parts altogether. They seem to have fixed other things in linked parts that would mean not having to have a separate score for parts -- though why they allow unlinking of enharmonic changes is beyond me, as every conductor I know wants to see exactly what the players see. The "fixed" engraver slurs with the promise of true WYSIWYG, the changing of the dynamics on the fly, dragging dynamics to new notes making them reassign, easy cross-staff notation in piano writing, the expanded contextual (right click or contrl-click) menu, the sorting of expressions, the multiple page editing, improved Garritan -- these all seem significant to me. Also allowing VST/SmartSynth instruments alongside Garritan. Maybe I finally can use Finale for decent audio playback (if I can only work out an easy way to do orchestral percussion). The stuff for educators (Smart Music, boomwhackers) seems silly to me. Finale is overkill for these folks. Also, working with or recording an audio file also seems like a dumb addition. For that, I would use DP or ProTools, since the MIDI in both of them is vastly more easily controlled and tweaked. But they must have had requests for all of these. BTW, I am still on 2007. This one actually looks pretty good to me. David Froom ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
I saw Tom Carruth demo '09 on Tuesday. He said there were things they still needed to fix with linked parts. Duh. I told him that linked parts weren't useful for most composers and he countered with how useful they were for those using Smart Music. Clearly, that's where the main thrust of features/upgrades/fixes will be generated because it is what is making money for them now. I can't argue with their business model, but it is frustrating for the professional user. Still, the new expression tool looks absolutely wonderful. Make one global setting per category and everything you drag into the category takes on those settings. Rehearsal numbers, tempo markings, whatever. It looks like they're going to that model for several tools (expressions, for example) and that someday (2011?) we may use only a couple of different dialog boxes. For those who prefer to use samples as their sounds, the new Aria engine in place of the Kontakt 2 player should offer better stability with Leopard and it will allow almost any sample to be used with Finale. To me, all of the options sound too far from reality to be useful, so I stick with the fast, generic softsyth. Because it is so bad, it always makes me imagine the real sound. I asked about Speedy Entry. Tom said that they will not do away with it until it can be folded into Simple Entry with exactly the same behavior as it currently has. The main difference for some of us composers is that Simple works as Duration then Pitch and Speedy works as Pitch then Duration. I think in Pitch then Duration, so the switch to working in Simple has been impossible for me, even though there are other great benefits. In my book, the expression tool alone is worth the upgrade. -Carolyn Bremer Associate Chair, Cole Conservatory of Music Area Director, Composition and Theory California State University, Long Beach On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Randolph Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Sheehan queried: >> >> Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? > > Even though I see important functions that don't seem to be addressed > (fixing and improving linked parts, for example), this upgrade doesn't seem > to have too much added fluff. The improvements in the way we can work with > expressions is one I've been dreaming about for years. > > Of course, we'll have to wait and see how well it actually works. It often > takes a few versions to weed out the worst bugs. > > -Randolph Peters > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Finale 2009
No mention of this fixing audio output with Firewire interfaces on Intel Macs (left channel only since Finale 2008) - but perhaps the whole AU plug-in compatibility thing will fix it? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
Staying with 2007 thanks Patrick Sheehan wrote: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! Patrick J. M. Sheehan Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor, Music Director Centennial Auditorium, Music Director & Conductor P.S. Music Host, The Saturday Night Blues: 89.5 WNIJ 9 p.m. - 12 a.m., streaming live at WNIJ.org Copyist -- The Glenn Miller Orchestra YouTube channel: MaestroPS2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-815-501-8327 (m) 1-815-285-4401 (f) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced
The word in the description for the new expression tool that bothers me the most is "rewritten". Often, "rewritten" means it could have very poor support for upgrading existing Finale files. I would be very unlikely to adopt Fin09 if it forced me to re-proof all my existing work. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Carolyn Bremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my book, the expression tool alone is worth the upgrade. > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2009 announced
David Froom wrote: How about linked parts now allowing the breaking up of tutti parts (that is, two parts on a single line in score being represented in the linked parts as two separate parts). That alone had me avoiding using linked parts altogether. They seem to have fixed other things in linked parts that would mean not having to have a separate score for parts -- though why they allow unlinking of enharmonic changes is beyond me, as every conductor I know wants to see exactly what the players see. That is a great idea. The "fixed" engraver slurs with the promise of true WYSIWYG, the changing of the dynamics on the fly, dragging dynamics to new notes making them reassign, easy cross-staff notation in piano writing, the expanded contextual (right click or contrl-click) menu, the sorting of expressions, the multiple page editing, improved Garritan -- these all seem significant to me. Also allowing VST/SmartSynth instruments alongside Garritan. Maybe I finally can use Finale for decent audio playback (if I can only work out an easy way to do orchestral percussion). The stuff for educators (Smart Music, boomwhackers) seems silly to me. Finale is overkill for these folks. Also, working with or recording an audio file also seems like a dumb addition. For that, I would use DP or ProTools, since the MIDI in both of them is vastly more easily controlled and tweaked. But they must have had requests for all of these. SmartMusic is ok. Biggest complaint there is the sound quality. And you still cannot, it seems, make your own SmartMusic files with real audio in them. Boomwhackers is lame. I use the TGTools Add Pitch Names ALL THE TIME for educational things. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] AriaPlayer in Finale 2009
If I read the Finale 09 release info correctly, Garritan sounds will use AriaPlayer rather than KontaktPlayer2. Then will KontaktPlayer2 still be needed when opening Finale 2008-and-before files? Will 08-and- before files play back with the new AriaPlayer? Also the Finale promo says: “All of Finale’s sound libraries work together seamlessly so that you can mix and match sounds in your score.” Does this mean we will now be able to mix Garritan with other sound samples? Gerry Kirk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009
I feel the need to amend my last statement. I got an email from MM announcing Finale 2009, and registered 2007 users can use a special upgrade code, F2K9U7, and get the 2009 upgrade for $100 plus s/h. Alas, I'll still wait for the first maintenance release. I don't like the idea of being a beta-tester who must pay out for the 'privilege'. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR www.thomastudios.com On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:58 AM, J D Thomas wrote: On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: They dropped the upgrade price at leastwasn't it $120 usually? I looked further for my own sake just now, and not having upgraded to 2K8 will cost me an extra $50. I don't think so. That's an offer I CAN and will refuse. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2009 announced
Eric Dannewitz wrote: David Froom wrote: How about linked parts now allowing the breaking up of tutti parts (that is, two parts on a single line in score being represented in the linked parts as two separate parts). That alone had me avoiding using linked parts altogether. They seem to have fixed other things in linked parts that would mean not having to have a separate score for parts -- though why they allow unlinking of enharmonic changes is beyond me, as every conductor I know wants to see exactly what the players see. That is a great idea. The "fixed" engraver slurs with the promise of true WYSIWYG, the changing of the dynamics on the fly, dragging dynamics to new notes making them reassign, easy cross-staff notation in piano writing, the expanded contextual (right click or contrl-click) menu, the sorting of expressions, the multiple page editing, improved Garritan -- these all seem significant to me. Also allowing VST/SmartSynth instruments alongside Garritan. Maybe I finally can use Finale for decent audio playback (if I can only work out an easy way to do orchestral percussion). The stuff for educators (Smart Music, boomwhackers) seems silly to me. Finale is overkill for these folks. Also, working with or recording an audio file also seems like a dumb addition. For that, I would use DP or ProTools, since the MIDI in both of them is vastly more easily controlled and tweaked. But they must have had requests for all of these. SmartMusic is ok. Biggest complaint there is the sound quality. And you still cannot, it seems, make your own SmartMusic files with real audio in them. Heck, you can't even USE your own SmartMusic files without paying the subscription fee to MakeMusic, for which they don't pay you any royalties for using your own music. They pay royalties for all the other copyrighted music that you can use for the same subscription fee. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2009 announced
True...but it would be nice to see SmartMusic become smart enough to see that one has Garritan or something installed and use those sounds instead of the ones it does. Or even better, if could render it and save it in a smart music file.. dhbailey wrote: Heck, you can't even USE your own SmartMusic files without paying the subscription fee to MakeMusic, for which they don't pay you any royalties for using your own music. They pay royalties for all the other copyrighted music that you can use for the same subscription fee. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Finale 2009
My 2c: The expression tool looks really good now. Thank heavens we can resize the box! Ditto with the slurs. It's frustrating as hell at the moment. The ability to use any VST/AU instrument is good. Was Finalescript updated for 2008? Because the updates in this version look excellent. The Aria player looks interesting. I don't quite understand it but it looks easy to use at least. Document styles take one of Sibelius' great features. So it may be worth upgrading... Matthew -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] edit system margins no longer works
Hi All, My iMac G5 unfortunately got fried in a power surge, and I replaced it with a newer Mac. The good news is that I was able to restore Finale and all my documents with Time Machine, but now for some reason "Edit System Margins" no longer works in Finale. The "Edit Systems" window no longer appears at all. I am using Finale 2008b.r1. I have tried several documents and even a new default document (that's what help at Finale suggested so far). Has anyone else had something weird like this happen, or have any idea how to fix it? Thanks,Larry Beekman www.larrybeekman.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale 2009 announced
On 10 Jul 2008, at 1:27 PM, David Froom wrote: On 10 Jul 2008, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naturally, nothing is mentioned yet about fixing what's currently wrong or requiring kludgy workarounds, particularly with linked parts. I'm still on 2K7 and there's a lot of swearing at my Mac every time I work in Finale. How about linked parts now allowing the breaking up of tutti parts (that is, two parts on a single line in score being represented in the linked parts as two separate parts). This is called voiced linked parts and it has been part of linked parts since they were introduced. There are, of course, some severe limitations. Regardless, to the best my knowledge there is no new linked parts functionality in Fin2009. though why they allow unlinking of enharmonic changes is beyond me, as every conductor I know wants to see exactly what the players see. Concert pitch scores frequently require a different enharmonic spelling in the part vs. score. easy cross-staff notation in piano writing This was in Fin2007. the expanded contextual (right click or contrl-click) menu This was in Fin2008. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] edit system margins no longer works
It's a known bug when migrating from PowerPC Mac to Intel Mac. Trash your Finale prefs and all will be well. I am disappointed that MM tech support did not give you the correct answer, as I had assumed this problem was well-documented. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Jul 2008, at 8:43 PM, Larry Beekman wrote: Hi All, My iMac G5 unfortunately got fried in a power surge, and I replaced it with a newer Mac. The good news is that I was able to restore Finale and all my documents with Time Machine, but now for some reason "Edit System Margins" no longer works in Finale. The "Edit Systems" window no longer appears at all. I am using Finale 2008b.r1. I have tried several documents and even a new default document (that's what help at Finale suggested so far). Has anyone else had something weird like this happen, or have any idea how to fix it? Thanks,Larry Beekman www.larrybeekman.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] edit system margins no longer works
Thank you, Darcy! I know I should know this, but how do I trash my Finale prefs?Larry Beekman On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a known bug when migrating from PowerPC Mac to Intel Mac. Trash your > Finale prefs and all will be well. > > I am disappointed that MM tech support did not give you the correct answer, > as I had assumed this problem was well-documented. > > Cheers, > > - Darcy > - > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Brooklyn, NY > > > > > > On 10 Jul 2008, at 8:43 PM, Larry Beekman wrote: > > Hi All, >> My iMac G5 unfortunately got fried in a power surge, and I replaced it >> with >> a newer Mac. The good news is that I was able to restore Finale and all my >> documents with Time Machine, but now for some reason "Edit System Margins" >> no longer works in Finale. The "Edit Systems" window no longer appears at >> all. I am using Finale 2008b.r1. I have tried several documents and even a >> new default document (that's what help at Finale suggested so far). Has >> anyone else had something weird like this happen, or have any idea how to >> fix it? Thanks,Larry Beekman >> www.larrybeekman.com >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > -- Larry Beekman www.larrybeekman.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] edit system margins no longer works
Larry, User/Library/Preferences - scroll down to your Finale Preferences, move it to the trash and restart Finale. When you have rebuilt your preferences (takes a little fussing), save time the next time by navigating back to where the preferences are kept and make a copy of the preference file (Command - D). You can leave that copy of the file in place in the preferences folder and simply re-name it (removing the "copy" designation), if you have to trash your preferences again. Works like a charm. Chuck -- Original message -- From: "Larry Beekman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thank you, Darcy! I know I should know this, but how do I trash my Finale > prefs?Larry Beekman > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > > It's a known bug when migrating from PowerPC Mac to Intel Mac. Trash your > > Finale prefs and all will be well. > > > > I am disappointed that MM tech support did not give you the correct answer, > > as I had assumed this problem was well-documented. > > > > Cheers, > > > > - Darcy > > - > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Brooklyn, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 Jul 2008, at 8:43 PM, Larry Beekman wrote: > > > > Hi All, > >> My iMac G5 unfortunately got fried in a power surge, and I replaced it > >> with > >> a newer Mac. The good news is that I was able to restore Finale and all my > >> documents with Time Machine, but now for some reason "Edit System Margins" > >> no longer works in Finale. The "Edit Systems" window no longer appears at > >> all. I am using Finale 2008b.r1. I have tried several documents and even a > >> new default document (that's what help at Finale suggested so far). Has > >> anyone else had something weird like this happen, or have any idea how to > >> fix it? Thanks,Larry Beekman > >> www.larrybeekman.com > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > -- > Larry Beekman > www.larrybeekman.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale