Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
At 11:10 PM -0400 8/15/08, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. Please forgive a really dumb question, but why are staff separators considered text? John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Error that Causes Program Shutdown
Finale 2008 (Windows XP): I had many many temporary files on my hard drive, and deleted them all to free up space, because Finale would shut down immediately at startup. Now, I can do nothing, not even open a saved file. The exact error that comes up now isCtree error 17 in CTVNOTE:225. How do I fix this in order to get the program running again? Of course, this is extremely urgent. HELP!!! Patrick Sheehan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
Hi Craig, Hide/show and link/unlink are both options in the contextual menu. And I wasn't chastising you for not having already read the section on linked parts, merely recommending that you do so. Really. There are many aspects of linked parts behavior that can be non-intuitive at first, but the manual does an excellent job of explaining how things work and why they work that way. Your question is the same question everyone has when they first start using linked parts, including me. Then I actually read the documentation (something I haven't done much of since Finale 3.0), and all became clear. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 15 Aug 2008, at 11:10 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. At some point, I think it is fair put some responsibility on the software designers. If there is a property that hides or shows a text object on a linked part, that property should be accessible in the context menu (right click), as would be the case with any properly designed Windows application. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
I read your reply in the fashion you meant, Darcy, and immediately made a mental note to read the section in the manual you suggest. (Of, course, I haven't actually _done that_, yet, but I will, I will.) Raymond Horton Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Craig, Hide/show and link/unlink are both options in the contextual menu. And I wasn't chastising you for not having already read the section on linked parts, merely recommending that you do so. Really. There are many aspects of linked parts behavior that can be non-intuitive at first, but the manual does an excellent job of explaining how things work and why they work that way. Your question is the same question everyone has when they first start using linked parts, including me. Then I actually read the documentation (something I haven't done much of since Finale 3.0), and all became clear. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 15 Aug 2008, at 11:10 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. At some point, I think it is fair put some responsibility on the software designers. If there is a property that hides or shows a text object on a linked part, that property should be accessible in the context menu (right click), as would be the case with any properly designed Windows application. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
Didn't work. Much thanks to all who replied. I ended up doing it graphically: increased space at head of measure (TGTools), then three natural signs added as artics. Key sig. hidden at the start of each remaining system to the end of the song. No transposition was needed, because the notes were to be held to their original lines and spaces anyway. On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:26 PM, J D Thomas wrote: I had the same problem a few times involving a time signature change that the file steadfastly refused to accept. Changing the measure number definition in Doc Options from actual to defined or vice versa, worked. On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
I don't know, but they are. John Howell wrote: At 11:10 PM -0400 8/15/08, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. Please forgive a really dumb question, but why are staff separators considered text? John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
Well, something must be wrong with my system. I'm not getting context menus for ANY object now. I'm pretty sure that existed when I installed F2009. The latest thing I did was install the Garritan JABB library. I guess I'll have to reinstall Finale. If I select one of these separator marks, there is nothing like hide/show or link/inlink in the text menu and there is no menu displayed if I right-click on the separator's handle. I don't find link/unlink or hide/unhide in any menu when I have the handle selected. Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Craig, Hide/show and link/unlink are both options in the contextual menu. And I wasn't chastising you for not having already read the section on linked parts, merely recommending that you do so. Really. There are many aspects of linked parts behavior that can be non-intuitive at first, but the manual does an excellent job of explaining how things work and why they work that way. Your question is the same question everyone has when they first start using linked parts, including me. Then I actually read the documentation (something I haven't done much of since Finale 3.0), and all became clear. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 15 Aug 2008, at 11:10 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. At some point, I think it is fair put some responsibility on the software designers. If there is a property that hides or shows a text object on a linked part, that property should be accessible in the context menu (right click), as would be the case with any properly designed Windows application. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080722-1, 07/22/2008 Tested on: 8/16/2008 5:56:18 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
Craig, Sounds like something is wrong to me. Those things should be there. Chuck On Aug 16, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, something must be wrong with my system. I'm not getting context menus for ANY object now. I'm pretty sure that existed when I installed F2009. The latest thing I did was install the Garritan JABB library. I guess I'll have to reinstall Finale. If I select one of these separator marks, there is nothing like hide/ show or link/inlink in the text menu and there is no menu displayed if I right-click on the separator's handle. I don't find link/ unlink or hide/unhide in any menu when I have the handle selected. Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Craig, Hide/show and link/unlink are both options in the contextual menu. And I wasn't chastising you for not having already read the section on linked parts, merely recommending that you do so. Really. There are many aspects of linked parts behavior that can be non-intuitive at first, but the manual does an excellent job of explaining how things work and why they work that way. Your question is the same question everyone has when they first start using linked parts, including me. Then I actually read the documentation (something I haven't done much of since Finale 3.0), and all became clear. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 15 Aug 2008, at 11:10 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, the documentation is, what, about 10,000 pages? The linked part documentation is not the first place I would have looked. I would have been looking with futility in the text tool book. At some point, I think it is fair put some responsibility on the software designers. If there is a property that hides or shows a text object on a linked part, that property should be accessible in the context menu (right click), as would be the case with any properly designed Windows application. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080722-1, 07/22/2008 Tested on: 8/16/2008 5:56:18 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Error that Causes Program Shutdown
I had this error too;-( It's a hard drive temp files problem. After a re-start, you should be able to run Finale. THEN, in Program Options, create a FINALE file as the site of your temp files. I suggest OTHER than the APP DATA - LOCAL file. When you do a thorough cleaning, this file is deleted;-( Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List From: Patrick Sheehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:39 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Error that Causes Program Shutdown Finale 2008 (Windows XP): I had many many temporary files on my hard drive, and deleted them all to free up space, because Finale would shut down immediately at startup. Now, I can do nothing, not even open a saved file. The exact error that comes up now isCtree error 17 in CTVNOTE:225. How do I fix this in order to get the program running again? Of course, this is extremely urgent. HELP!!! Patrick Sheehan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
