[Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
Yo folks, I have had multiple crashes when opening a document and starting playback. Finale pops up Pre-processing file for human playback. (press Esc to skip) Retrieving score items and get stuck on 33% or 35 % then Window deems Finale to have stopped working. Waiting does not help, neither does pressing Esc. Does not occur for all files so I guess that the file I am working on right now has gone corrupt. But what to do? Anyone seen this? Any advice? Thanks /D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
Dan Tillberg wrote: Yo folks, I have had multiple crashes when opening a document and starting playback. Finale pops up Pre-processing file for human playback. (press Esc to skip) Retrieving score items and get stuck on 33% or 35 % then Window deems Finale to have stopped working. Waiting does not help, neither does pressing Esc. Does not occur for all files so I guess that the file I am working on right now has gone corrupt. But what to do? Start a brand new file with the same instrumentation defined, then copy from the corrupt document and paste into the new document. This sometimes works to save the data. Another thing you could try, although I can't recall if I ever heard it saving a file in your situation, is to run the Data Check and let Finale try to find and fix the problems. You could also experiment with turning off Human Playback and seeing if the raw data plays fine without the HP turned on. If that's the case, then there may be some expression defined for playback which is causing the problem. Perhaps one which you created by duplicating an existing one which had playback defined and then editing the text and forgetting about the playback aspect and it might be in conflict with some other nearby command. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
OK, spent some hours nailing down the error. I tried the Data check utility, but that didn't change anything. Turning off the HP did it. But why? After some experimenting I found that the problem seems to be related to falls/trills, but not in a way that seems logic. After having removed more and more in the original file, I came down to an example which works for me to play. Adding a fall anywhere with the glissando tool is OK, BUT adding a second fall anywhere hangs the playback which is exactly the original problem. So I guess that this small file is corrupt in some way. I know this is not firsthand a bug reporting forum, but I would like to learn any tricks to clean a file so that it can be used. To create a new file does not seem to be very attractive since the full version of the original file had final-edited parts, and that work took about 6 hours...so I am not keen of redoing the whole thing. Better to turn off HP for the next version in that case. Also I have been working with both Finale 2007 and Finale 2010, using trills and falls quite extensively; so I am a bit curious whether this behaviour is caused by a bug introduced in Finale 2010a. But any contribution is welcome, so anyone who likes to solve mysteries...please :-) The test file can be downloaded here: http://www.tillberg.org/download/Finale/Test6.mus Make sure you have other work saved, because testing the file the way described here might case Finale to hang. Thanks /D -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: den 25 november 2009 10:45 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash Dan Tillberg wrote: Yo folks, I have had multiple crashes when opening a document and starting playback. Finale pops up Pre-processing file for human playback. (press Esc to skip) Retrieving score items and get stuck on 33% or 35 % then Window deems Finale to have stopped working. Waiting does not help, neither does pressing Esc. Does not occur for all files so I guess that the file I am working on right now has gone corrupt. But what to do? Start a brand new file with the same instrumentation defined, then copy from the corrupt document and paste into the new document. This sometimes works to save the data. Another thing you could try, although I can't recall if I ever heard it saving a file in your situation, is to run the Data Check and let Finale try to find and fix the problems. You could also experiment with turning off Human Playback and seeing if the raw data plays fine without the HP turned on. If that's the case, then there may be some expression defined for playback which is causing the problem. Perhaps one which you created by duplicating an existing one which had playback defined and then editing the text and forgetting about the playback aspect and it might be in conflict with some other nearby command. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] String Orchestra Parts layout
I'm working on a piece for String Orchestra, but it has a second cello part. (The instrumentation is Violin I, Violin II, Viola, Cello I, Cello II, String Bass.) My question concerns the cello part. Should I extract the cello parts together in one part on two staves, or in separate parts, like the violins?What in your opinion would be best for the performers, and best for the rehearsal process and performance?Happy Thanksgiving!Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] String Orchestra Parts layout
Ryan, better to have two separate parts, just like Violin I Violin II. The less to look at and process, the better. Patrick J. M. Sheehan Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy P. S. Music Host: The Saturday Night Blues on 89.5 WNIJ-FM, 9pm - 12am (CST) WNIJ.org 1-815-973-2317 (m) 1-815-285-4401 (f) patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Ryan Beard [mailto:rw...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:12 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] String Orchestra Parts layout I'm working on a piece for String Orchestra, but it has a second cello part. (The instrumentation is Violin I, Violin II, Viola, Cello I, Cello II, String Bass.) My question concerns the cello part. Should I extract the cello parts together in one part on two staves, or in separate parts, like the violins?What in your opinion would be best for the performers, and best for the rehearsal process and performance?Happy Thanksgiving!Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] String Orchestra Parts layout
In general, you DO want to have SEPARATE cello parts rather than two staves per system. There will be too much page turning and visual confusion otherwise. Here are some exceptions: 1) If the extra cello part is different only a few measures here or there, you could do one part with the occasional 2 stave system. 2) If the music is of such a nature that the cellists need to know what the other parts are playing. (Aleatoric or extremely complicated scores come to mind.) 3) If the two cello parts are very rhythmical and the tightest coordination is needed, there can be a lag if the second divisi string part is physically too far away. This applies more to violin divisi parts where violin I-a and I-b might be too far apart. The solution is to divide the strings with an inside/outside stand arrangement rather than front of section and back of section. Of course, you have to have the two staves in the same part for this to work. If your score is of this nature, check with the concertmaster or first cellist for advice here. 4) If the string orchestra only has 2 cellists and no room for 2 stands. (This is rare, but it does happen in extremely small venues.) -Randolph Peters On 2009-11-25, at 11:12 AM, Ryan Beard wrote: I'm working on a piece for String Orchestra, but it has a second cello part. (The instrumentation is Violin I, Violin II, Viola, Cello I, Cello II, String Bass.) My question concerns the cello part. Should I extract the cello parts together in one part on two staves, or in separate parts, like the violins?What in your opinion would be best for the performers, and best for the rehearsal process and performance?Happy Thanksgiving!Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
Hi Dan, I'm a lurker on this list and new to Finale. I downloaded the test file and had no problem listening to it. No crash. I use Finale 2010a. Bob In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@tillberg.org writes: But any contribution is welcome, so anyone who likes to solve mysteries...please :-) The test file can be downloaded here: http://www.tillberg.org/download/Finale/Test6.mus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
OK, but you need to add 2 falls (by using the glissando tool) in the file to trigger the bug. AND SOMETHING ELSE: I now feel even more certain that this bug is introduced in Finale 2010a (or perhaps 2010). I just opened a file that was created in Finale 2007 (also containing falls), let Finale do the conversion to 2010a, and now that file shows exactly the same behaviour. Can't be listened to. I know this file was fine when publishing that version - for sure. OMG this problem seems to grow... /D -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of rpm1...@aol.com Sent: den 25 november 2009 21:27 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash Hi Dan, I'm a lurker on this list and new to Finale. I downloaded the test file and had no problem listening to it. No crash. I use Finale 2010a. Bob In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@tillberg.org writes: But any contribution is welcome, so anyone who likes to solve mysteries...please :-) The test file can be downloaded here: http://www.tillberg.org/download/Finale/Test6.mus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash
And now I tried to open a file that I am pretty sure was created with 2010 that worked fine but contained no falls. Just adding one fall to an arbitrary note caused the playback to hang and Finale to crash...oh happy day :-( /D -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Tillberg Sent: den 25 november 2009 21:57 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash OK, but you need to add 2 falls (by using the glissando tool) in the file to trigger the bug. AND SOMETHING ELSE: I now feel even more certain that this bug is introduced in Finale 2010a (or perhaps 2010). I just opened a file that was created in Finale 2007 (also containing falls), let Finale do the conversion to 2010a, and now that file shows exactly the same behaviour. Can't be listened to. I know this file was fine when publishing that version - for sure. OMG this problem seems to grow... /D -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of rpm1...@aol.com Sent: den 25 november 2009 21:27 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] WinFin 2010a Crash Hi Dan, I'm a lurker on this list and new to Finale. I downloaded the test file and had no problem listening to it. No crash. I use Finale 2010a. Bob In a message dated 11/25/2009 9:32:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@tillberg.org writes: But any contribution is welcome, so anyone who likes to solve mysteries...please :-) The test file can be downloaded here: http://www.tillberg.org/download/Finale/Test6.mus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Score lists bug resolved
I have found a solution for the score lists bug in Fin 2009. I could never get the tempo markings to show on top staff of parts even though it was checked. What I discovered was that if you uncheck and then re-check show on top staff it will show up on the top staff of each part. This is probably a bug connected with the old staff lists coming in from an earlier version template or something. Hopes this helps other fellow sufferers. - and Makemusic please take note ... I've given up reporting bugs after purchasing over 20 upgrades ;-) Jonathan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: copyright registration question (the manuscript is only in PDF form)
Hi Michael - Thanks so much for the information Michael. I was thinking of uploading the PDF's of my score and also sending in a physical CD with the same PDF's; however, I think I'll just do the upload. (The woman on the phone told me that one could upload and send in but I don't see anything on the site about being able to do this.) I do agree regarding the reliability of uploads; I can't remember the last time I had a problem. And all the PDF's for my score, even at 600 plus pages, weigh in at about 5 MB. Considering that with Fiber Optic Cable (2 mbps) the eCO system allows for 170 MB during a session, the upload should prove pretty fast. Thanks so much! Aryeh http://www.RocknMoses.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Aryeh-Har-Even/93404883886 DP 5.13 Finale 2007 (note: I upgraded to Finale 2009 but never installed it) 10.4.11 MacBook Pro 2.16, 2GB ram ULN-2 Glyph Drives Michael Good goodlists at recordare.com Tue Nov 24 15:30:24 CST 2009 Previous message: [Finale] Re: copyright registration question (the manuscript is only in PDF form) Next message: [Finale] problems with a new MacBook Pro and the enter button Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi Aryeh, Yes, we're uploading excerpts from the software as a PDF file, rather than printing the PDF and mailing a paper copy. We are part of that half that is totally digital. You get an acknowledgment that the PDF was uploaded, and I believe that includes the file name so you can confirm you uploaded the right one. I don't recall if you can actually view the file afterwards, but network uploads of PDFs are pretty reliable these days. If it doesn't work you can try again. There aren't any drawbacks to using eCO in our company's case. But every situation is different, so consult your attorney. Only they can really answer the questions specific to your situation, not the copyright office. Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
