[Finale] chord symbol items

[Haroldo Mauro]

Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix 
items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size through 
menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when increased by a 
large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these items increase by 
the same percentage.
Harold
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Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

[Christopher Smith]

No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write tech 
support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that computers 
do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started attaching to 
measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a chord to a hidden 
item in another layer and resize the item, causing the chord to resize as well, 
but that functionality was removed.

The only kludge I know of is to have another staff with everything hidden 
except chords, and resize the staff. You would include the special staff in the 
part where you needed it. Obviously, if you have several instruments needing 
resized chords, you would need a different extra staff for EVERY instrument, 
unless everything you put in the piano you also put in the guitar and bass 
part, and of course don’t forget instruments that need changes for 
improvisation. Urg.

Jari Williamsson said he was working on an edit to his Change plugin to allow 
kerning to be preserved for chord suffixes, which would be great, except there 
would STLL be no easy way to resize just a couple of chords.

Christopher


> On Jan 23, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix 
> items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size through 
> menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when increased by a 
> large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these items increase by 
> the same percentage.
> Harold
> Fin2014d Mac Lion
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Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

[Christopher Smith]

Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my 
second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug 
where if you import a Jazz library into a Maestro document, the parentheses end 
up being Maestro instead of Jazz, which have a different baseline so that they 
are too low. Good luck.

Oh, and there is STILL no way to get just a few chords into a different size. 
You can have different SUFFIXES, but for the name of the chord (like Eb in an 
Ebmaj7 chord) it is fixed for the entire document. Sometimes I have very dense 
measures that I would like to compress a bit, but easy way to do it.

Christopher


> On Jan 23, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for replying. I agree it is a huge lack. I will mention it to tech 
> support. The plugin would be a solution for me, since what I usually need is 
> to resize changes for the whole document/instruments. To resize one or two 
> chords once in a while would be easy just to edit the chord itself or create 
> a new one in the Chord Definition window, with different size fonts and 
> positioning. Now, I have this custom library of chords, created over the 
> years, which I like, but the fonts are kind of small for some players to read 
> at a distance, so I want to increase the whole library for the new parts I 
> write in the future. I hate to think I will need to edit the chords one by 
> one. With Data Check->Change Fonts I run into the same problem. The fonts 
> increase in size, but not the spacing.
> Harold
> 
> On 23/01/2016, at 15:29, Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
>> No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write 
>> tech support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that 
>> computers do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started 
>> attaching to measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a 
>> chord to a hidden item in another layer and resize the item, causing the 
>> chord to resize as well, but that functionality was removed.
>> 
>> The only kludge I know of is to have another staff with everything hidden 
>> except chords, and resize the staff. You would include the special staff in 
>> the part where you needed it. Obviously, if you have several instruments 
>> needing resized chords, you would need a different extra staff for EVERY 
>> instrument, unless everything you put in the piano you also put in the 
>> guitar and bass part, and of course don’t forget instruments that need 
>> changes for improvisation. Urg.
>> 
>> Jari Williamsson said he was working on an edit to his Change plugin to 
>> allow kerning to be preserved for chord suffixes, which would be great, 
>> except there would STLL be no easy way to resize just a couple of chords.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix 
>>> items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size 
>>> through menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when 
>>> increased by a large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these 
>>> items increase by the same percentage.
>>> Harold
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Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

[Haroldo Mauro]

Of course! You're right about chord letters being unchangeable.


On 23/01/2016, at 16:19, Christopher Smith wrote:

> Yup, different libraries is the way to go. My first one took me a week, my 
> second took me most of the day. Huge pain. Plus, there is a long-standing bug 
> where if you import a Jazz library into a Maestro document, the parentheses 
> end up being Maestro instead of Jazz, which have a different baseline so that 
> they are too low. Good luck.
> 
> Oh, and there is STILL no way to get just a few chords into a different size. 
> You can have different SUFFIXES, but for the name of the chord (like Eb in an 
> Ebmaj7 chord) it is fixed for the entire document. Sometimes I have very 
> dense measures that I would like to compress a bit, but easy way to do it.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for replying. I agree it is a huge lack. I will mention it to tech 
>> support. The plugin would be a solution for me, since what I usually need is 
>> to resize changes for the whole document/instruments. To resize one or two 
>> chords once in a while would be easy just to edit the chord itself or create 
>> a new one in the Chord Definition window, with different size fonts and 
>> positioning. Now, I have this custom library of chords, created over the 
>> years, which I like, but the fonts are kind of small for some players to 
>> read at a distance, so I want to increase the whole library for the new 
>> parts I write in the future. I hate to think I will need to edit the chords 
>> one by one. With Data Check->Change Fonts I run into the same problem. The 
>> fonts increase in size, but not the spacing.
>> Harold
>> 
>> On 23/01/2016, at 15:29, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write 
>>> tech support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that 
>>> computers do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started 
>>> attaching to measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a 
>>> chord to a hidden item in another layer and resize the item, causing the 
>>> chord to resize as well, but that functionality was removed.
>>> 
>>> The only kludge I know of is to have another staff with everything hidden 
>>> except chords, and resize the staff. You would include the special staff in 
>>> the part where you needed it. Obviously, if you have several instruments 
>>> needing resized chords, you would need a different extra staff for EVERY 
>>> instrument, unless everything you put in the piano you also put in the 
>>> guitar and bass part, and of course don’t forget instruments that need 
>>> changes for improvisation. Urg.
>>> 
>>> Jari Williamsson said he was working on an edit to his Change plugin to 
>>> allow kerning to be preserved for chord suffixes, which would be great, 
>>> except there would STLL be no easy way to resize just a couple of chords.
>>> 
>>> Christopher
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 23, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
 
 Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol 
 suffix items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols 
 size through menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when 
 increased by a large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these 
 items increase by the same percentage.
 Harold
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Re: [Finale] chord symbol items

[Haroldo Mauro]

Thanks for replying. I agree it is a huge lack. I will mention it to tech 
support. The plugin would be a solution for me, since what I usually need is to 
resize changes for the whole document/instruments. To resize one or two chords 
once in a while would be easy just to edit the chord itself or create a new one 
in the Chord Definition window, with different size fonts and positioning. Now, 
I have this custom library of chords, created over the years, which I like, but 
the fonts are kind of small for some players to read at a distance, so I want 
to increase the whole library for the new parts I write in the future. I hate 
to think I will need to edit the chords one by one. With Data Check->Change 
Fonts I run into the same problem. The fonts increase in size, but not the 
spacing.
Harold

On 23/01/2016, at 15:29, Christopher Smith wrote:

> No, and this is a HUGE hairy lack in the program right now. Please write tech 
> support and complain about this. It is supposed to be something that 
> computers do easily, yet there is no way to do it ever since chords started 
> attaching to measures instead of items. In the past, you could attach a chord 
> to a hidden item in another layer and resize the item, causing the chord to 
> resize as well, but that functionality was removed.
> 
> The only kludge I know of is to have another staff with everything hidden 
> except chords, and resize the staff. You would include the special staff in 
> the part where you needed it. Obviously, if you have several instruments 
> needing resized chords, you would need a different extra staff for EVERY 
> instrument, unless everything you put in the piano you also put in the guitar 
> and bass part, and of course don’t forget instruments that need changes for 
> improvisation. Urg.
> 
> Jari Williamsson said he was working on an edit to his Change plugin to allow 
> kerning to be preserved for chord suffixes, which would be great, except 
> there would STLL be no easy way to resize just a couple of chords.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a plugin, or any other way, to add space among chord symbol suffix 
>> items globally and proportionally, when increasing chord symbols size 
>> through menu Utilities->Change->Chords? These items will collide when 
>> increased by a large percentage, so the idea is that the space among these 
>> items increase by the same percentage.
>> Harold
>> Fin2014d Mac Lion
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Chuck Israels]

Hi Barbara,

Yes, there is software that contains sound samples (I guess a piano sound is 
what you’d like - it’s what I always want).  Garage Band does this on Mac, and 
I’m sure there are others.  Whether or not they are free, I don’t know, but you 
can surely find something that will work.

Chuck




> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
> thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
> that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
> Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
> free) that acts as an interface.
> 
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Gippo Mercoli]

Mainstage too on Mac 
I use komplete that contains kontact and several virtual pianos and organs 

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> On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:44, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barbara,
> 
> On a Mac, you can use Garage Band, and there’s something called Ableton that 
> is also available.  It’s generally clumsy to have to use sound samples on the 
> computer.  I wish I could find a 61 key MIDI controller keyboard with good 
> piano sound and speakers so I wouldn’t have to do what you are describing.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
>> notation software) and have sound?
>> 
>> Barbara
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Barbara Touburg]

Hi Chuck,

I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
free) that acts as an interface.

Barbara
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

On Sat, January 23, 2016 3:32 pm, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without
> notation software) and have sound?

Yes, as others have said -- but you can also run the Aria player separately
from Finale and use all the Finale sounds or any soundbank. When I did my
opera, I bought a custom set of cimbalom samples (from Boulder Sounds in
Colorado). They were played live in performance using a Kurzweil MIDI
keyboard, the Aria player (on a Dell netbook), and output to a pair of
speakers below the keyboard. Very effective.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Chuck Israels]

Hi Barbara,

On a Mac, you can use Garage Band, and there’s something called Ableton that is 
also available.  It’s generally clumsy to have to use sound samples on the 
computer.  I wish I could find a 61 key MIDI controller keyboard with good 
piano sound and speakers so I wouldn’t have to do what you are describing.

Chuck


> On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
> notation software) and have sound?
> 
> Barbara
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[Finale] MIDI

[Barbara Touburg]

Is it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard to the computer (without 
notation software) and have sound?

Barbara
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