[Finale] different articulation playback

2005-09-11 Thread James Bailey
Okay, so I'm looking to do this as easily as possible, since it's  
something that doesn't matter.


I'm taking just the 9th variation of the 24th Caprice from Paganini's  
24 caprices and taking it down the fifth so a violist friend of mine  
can comment on it.


I have two questions.

1) Is it possible to have the “+” articulation not have the mordent  
playback in HP? If I turn HP off, I get crap sound, but at least it  
doesn’t have the odd playback. (less important)
2) Is it possible to modify my note-based text expression to be  
vertical rather than horizontal? The words, “pizz.” and “arco” are so  
long, it would make life infinitely easier if I could rotate them.  
(rather more important)


And then, because this is only a sample, I don’t care too much, but  
because I will likely be actually doing very similar things, having  
actually usable solutions would be helpful.


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[Finale] is upgrading worth it?

2005-08-02 Thread James Bailey

And see, this is what I mean. Is the only thing of note the sound and playback 
improvements? I mean, I use the program as basically a musical word processor. 
If it's all about the sound, I can leave it. If it's faster, maybe. That would 
be a big plus, but if it's just sound, I can live without it.

Am 02.08.2005 um 04:56 schrieb Lon Price:


On Aug 2, 2005, at 2:39 AM, dhbailey wrote:

My knee-jerk reaction in the past would have been, Yes, the upgrade is worth 
it, even if only for the below-the-surface improvements but with this one I'm 
not sure.


I just installed FinMac '06 tonight, and everything went without a hitch.  I 
ran the preinstall app that MM provided, and ran the GPO update after 
installing Finale.  Everything works.  Since I have the full version of GPO, I 
really can see no need for FinGPO, but it's all really a moot point anyway, 
since my dual 800 G4 with only 1 Gig of RAM practicallly chokes on only two 
GPO instruments, flute and piano, for example.  I know that the Steinway sample 
is a big hog, but I tried the lite version and still my computer was pushed to 
its very limits--both in RAM and processing power.

This afternoon I recorded a piece for flute and piano (Pavane by Fauré) using 
the GPO Studio in FinMac '05, using Quicktime Pro to make the recording.  With 
these two instruments loaded my RAM usage went to 600 MB, and my two processors 
were near 100% for the entire length of the recording.

Tonight I recorded the same piece, using the same method in FinMac '06 and my 
RAM usage went to 830 MB, and my processors were again very near 100% the 
entire way.  It seems to me that this method (using GPO Studio, rather than AU) 
is the only way I can use my own sound modules in combination with GPO, but 
man, it hits the computer hard!

I also tried recording the same piece using FinGPO (RAM went to around 500 MB 
and processors were in the 60s to 70s), but the sound quality suffered quite a 
bit.  

I tried using the full GPO and AU playback (RAM was again creeping toward 800 
MB and CPU was in the 70s to 80s, not as bad as GPO Studio).

On the Garriton website it says that a computer with a gig of RAM should be 
able to load an entire orchestra, but I can't even come close to that on my 
machine.  So I don't see that I'll be using GPO too much until I can upgrade my 
computer, but I knew that would be the case.

Also, none of the flute sounds were really very convincing to my ears, but I 
am a flute player, so you can take that opinion with a grain of salt.  I like 
Dan Dean's solo winds better than GPO, but I can't use them in Finale, because 
of MM's marriage to GPO and NI.

On the other hand:

1. I'm very happy to have 8 X 16 MIDI slots, which now means I can use all of 
my sound modules (dated as they are, I still have a fondness for them). And, 
like I said, the GPO Studio can be used to load GPO samples along with my sound 
modules.

2. Slurs and hairpins really look 100% better!  They're absolutely elegant!  
(at least compared to the way they used to look on a Mac)

3.  I completed a Mozart Minuet and Trio, arranged for alto sax and piano, in 
about an hour, and things seemed to me to be a little snappier than FinMac '05. 
 But keep in mind that I was using my own sounds, since we all know GPO 
contains no saxes, anyway.  (BTW, the demo saxes on Gary's website are pretty 
impressive to my ears, and I'm a sax player.  I'm looking forward to getting 
that collection as soon as it comes out.)  But the important thing to me was 
that after playing with GPO for a while, I was able to get right back to work.  
In other words, the upgrade didn't disrupt my workflow the way some previous 
upgrades did, especially the one where they changed all the Simple Entry 
keystrokes.  Rather than relearn Simple I switched to Speedy and never looked 
back.

4. Human Playback is improved--it almost plays the flute trills and grace notes 
convincingly.

5. The Studio View comes in handy for adjusting volume between the two 
instruments. I've often seen dynamic markings one degree lower for the piano 
(sax-f, pno-mf, etc.) in pieces like this, but in this piece dynamics were 
identical in both parts, so the pno. tended to overpower the sax.  No problem, 
just back off the pno. volume in the mixer.  The solo-accompaniment balance can 
also be adjusted in the HP prefs, BTW.  The Tap Tempo has me baffled so far, 
though.  I guess I'll have to read up on that.

So, yeah, I think the upgrade is worth the price, even though I probably won't 
be using GPO much for now, and that's what all the ballyhoo has been about.

I'll still be using Digital Performer for recording mockups, though.  When it 
comes to recording, I just don't see Finale ever giving me the flexibility I 
have in DP.

I'm also waiting for my copy of Sibelius 4 with its much-discussed dynamic 
part linking.  I'm with Hiro--I'm having fun with all of this stuff. ;-)

Lon


Lon Price, 

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-08 Thread James Bailey

Am 08.07.2005 um 08:57 schrieb Andrew Stiller:

 the still-small set
of musicians who can play a quintuplet accurately in the first place.


You can't be serious. Chopin requires them!


I understand the point he's trying to make. Accurate execution of a quintuplet 
is rather tricky. Chopin may require them, but performers rarely play five 
notes of equal length. But performers rarely play five notes of equal length in 
5/4. Heck, we rarely play four notes of equal length in 4/4. A simple check 
using hyperscribe will show any of us that.

The point, however, I don't think is absolutely accurate execution of any 
rhythmic pattern. I think the point is what we hear. If we can distinguish the 
written rhythm simply by hearing it. (Or at least understand the concept of the 
rhythm, even if another might notate it differently).
 


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Re: [Finale] clef changes

2005-04-13 Thread James Bailey
In my experience, Violists don¹t mind treble clef so much as they mind
having to change clefs often. It¹s a real pain to switch one's thinking for
four measures just to avoid a couple of ledger lines. Your general rule is a
pretty good one. If I¹m seeing four or more ledger lines for four measures,
I¹m pretty not happy about it, and trying to find ways to re-write so it¹s
easier to read. It sounds like your score would be better served using
treble clef as the predominant clef with occasional forays into the
alto-clef range, from my experience, a fairly common sight in solo viola
music.


 From: Ryan Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
 To: finale finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] clef changes
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I'd be interested in getting some opinions regarding
 clef changes. And, if any violists are out there, I'd
 love to hear how you feel about reading in treble clef
 for extended periods of time.
 
 I'm working on a viola sonata right now, and the
 composer stays pretty high in the range throughout the
 whole piece. His manuscript is mostly in treble, but
 that's due to his inexperience with the alto clef. In
 fact, he used ledger lines down to the open C in one
 passage. He told me to changes clefs as necessary to
 fit the music. 
 
 i'm inclined to leave large portions of it in treble
 clef, just to give the performer's eyes a break.
 
 Do any of you have some rules of thumb you'd like to
 share? How many ledger lines above the staff would you
 go in alto clef? How many below in treble clef? 3 on
 either side? 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ryan
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale dual processors

2004-12-13 Thread James Bailey
Just so I'm clear, Finale does NOT make use of the dual processor?


 Digital Performer will clearly perform better regardless of 
 which I choose, since it takes advantage of dual processors. But 
 Finale? I'm not sure what kind of real-world improvement I can expect 
 with the upgrade.
 


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Re: [Finale] New USB midi keyboard

2004-12-06 Thread James Bailey
This one, however, at half the price looks like it has just the same
features.
http://www.midiman.com/products/en_us/eKeys37-main.html


On 12/6/04 2:01 PM, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Chuck,
 
 Damn that looks nice.  I may sell my Edirol and get one of those.
 
 - Darcy
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 On 06 Dec 2004, at 04:56 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 For those seeking a simple USB/MIDI keyboard with complete absence of
 bells and whistles, and a simple, compact design, this looks to be
 just the ticket.
 
 http://www.macmice.com/garagekey.html
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 Chuck Israels
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 Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
 phone (360) 671-3402
 fax (360) 676-6055
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Re: [Finale] Key signature question

2004-11-14 Thread James Bailey
Agreeing with Owain, I'm going to have to say that it looks like a
development section, where the tonal centre isn't going to be around long
enough to warrant a modulation.  Schoenberg has *ideas* about that sort of
thing.  But, without any knowledge of the context, I'm going to go with, it
looks like mostly pedal point passages used to refer to previous melodic
ideas, and to establish modulatory centres before *arriving* at a place
where a new key signature might actually be useful.


On 12.11.2004 14:19 Uhr, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aside from deliberately trying to make things difficult for note entry and
 sight-reading, why would anyone notate the following passage this way:
 
 http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Janacek1.jpg
 
 instead of this way:
 
 http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Janacek2.jpg ?
 
 (The whole piece is only three pages and stays in the same harmonic
 neighborhood throughout.)
 
 [from Leos Janacek, 'Po zarostlem chodnicku']
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale PDF problem (OS X)

2004-11-01 Thread James Bailey
I'm inclined to believe that the problem truly is Acrobat 5 related.
Basically, Adobe released Acrobat 5 to have a version of acrobat that was
usable in OSX/WinXP. Other than that, the program is useless. There are
numerous problems (layers, transparency, font embedding, I could go on...) I
would download Acrobat 6 and use it instead. It's actually made to be a
useful program. If you can, get a postscript distiller like Acrobat
distiller (I don't think it's the best, necessarily, but when it works, it
works really well.) And it's true, the pdf's that Preview creates are
unnecessarily large, I don't know if the free Acrobat 6 reader has the
reduce file size option, but it gets rid of all the extraneous information
that is left in the pdf after it's distilled to how you want it to be.

Just tonight, I created a pdf of a newsletter I'm working on from a Quark
document. Preview's pdf was 11 MB, Distiller's pdf was 2.8 MB. And that's
before reduce file size.


On 01/11/04 1:15 am, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strange problem:
 
 With some files (both 2k4 and 2k5) when I create a PDF using the
 built-in OS X method, I get an odd problem. These PDFs look normal on
 screen and print fine on non-postscript printers. However, when printed
 from Acrobat Reader 5 to a PS-printer, some characters print as other
 characters (whole rests are 16th rests).
 
  From MakeMusic I am told this is a bug with Acrobat Reader 5, but I
 find this hard to believe.
 
 Everything is fine if I print to a PS file first and open this in
 Preview to convert to PDF. However, these files are about 4 times as big
 as PDFs created directly in the print dialog.
 
 The funny thing is that this is not necessarily reproducable. I have a
 feeling it also depends on the number of pages printed.
 
 If anyone knows the answer, or wants to have a look, please let me know.
 You need to have a PS printer to see the problem.
 
 Johannes


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Re: [Finale] OT.......Music Hai Ku

2004-10-24 Thread James Bailey
Okay, so..

So wait, an update?
In spring?? Any word about
Real fixes and stuff???


On 24.10.2004 18:20 Uhr, Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, you are right.  However, if we're going to be pedantic, there should
 really be a mention of the season or nature involved.
 
 Sorry to be pedantic but, shouldn't it be:
 
 So wait, an update
 Is there any word about
 Real fixes and stuff???
 
 I just love these.
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] table of contents and MS Word

2004-09-21 Thread James Bailey
I imagine the easiest way to create this would be to print a .ps rather than
a .pdf. The .ps should import directly into finale. In your print dialog, in
the output option, select postscript, and that will save a file that finale
can import. I imagine this would be the easiest way to solve this problem.


On 21.09.2004 9:02 Uhr, Ryan Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for all of the responses. I should have noted
 that I want this all in one document so I can make a
 booklet on my large format printer. And I do want the
 convenience of just printing one document and being
 done with it. 
 Is it worth it to make a feature request to Finale to
 make text block improvements? I know Finale isn't a
 word processor, but in the emerging world of desktop
 publishing, I think it would serve them well to
 improve the way the program handles text. I'm not
 expecting a spell checker or anything fancy, but
 asking for the tabs to jump to a fixed distance
 doesn't seem like much to me. Anyone agree?
 
 Ryan
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol. 14, Issue 20

2004-09-18 Thread James Bailey
Title: Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol. 14, Issue 20



Ive always had difficulty cutting measures out of a score. But a quick and easy workaround I use is to in scroll view, make a new staff at the bottom (I usually leave it in treble clef, since Im going to delete it in about two minutes anyway,) copy the notes I need with select partial measures enabled, copy them down to the new staff, clear the measures out of the original staff, move the notes from the new staff to where they should be in the original staff, and then delete the new staff. It sounds like a lot more than it really is.
But thats just me, Ive never been able to successfully cut measures out of a score.


On 18.09.2004 15:38 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think that you can fix this very easily. Merely highlight the area that needs to be moved. Cut it out of the score. Then paste it back into the area where you want the music to begin. Finale automatically realigns the music with the barlines.

good luck,

BE


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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:49:21 -0400
From: Bill Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Finale] Shifting notes around...?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi there: For reasons I won't bore you with, I have one line of a multi-line
score where everything is shifted to the left by two quarter-notes. Is there
a way to insert those two quarters at the very beginning and realign it all?
The help stuff doesn't offer much of any help. I am poor and cheap enough to
be using FinMac2000c on OS9.1, FYI.

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Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?

2004-09-10 Thread James Bailey
For most purposes, a regular $99 scanner should do you fine. Most of the
higher-end scanners, I've noticed, do things that scan to larger formats,
ability to scan transparencies (negatives, positives). The average person
doesn't ever need anything like that. I'd imagine that ability for a book to
lay flat would be a good thing for you Œthough.


On 10.09.2004 15:13 Uhr, Michael J. Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?
 I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending
 about $250 or so for a really good one.
 
 What features should I look for?  I'd like to be able to
 use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also
 just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.
 
 I am using Windows XP, SP2...
 
 Thanks!
 
 Mike
 
  
 
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Re: [Finale] Re: OT Meanings of words

2004-08-26 Thread James Bailey
See, that would be interesting. I'd love to know how that came about.  My
new favourite is tawdry. From Merriam-Webster's word of the day:

 In the 7th century, Etheldreda, the queen of Northumbria, renounced her
husband and her royal position for the veil of a nun. She was renowned for
her saintliness and is traditionally said to have died of a swelling in her
throat, which she took as a judgment upon her fondness for wearing necklaces
in her youth. Her shrine became a principal site of pilgrimage in England.
An annual fair was held in her honour on October 17th, and her name became
simplified to St. Audrey. At these fairs various kinds of cheap knickknacks
were sold, along with a type of necklace called St. Audrey's lace, which
by the 17th century had become altered to tawdry lace. Eventually,
tawdry came to be used to describe anything cheap and gaudy that might be
found at these fairs or anywhere else.

Is that not wonderful. Poor woman!

On 26.08.2004 9:07 Uhr, Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear folks,
 
 I think most of us are interested in how the meaning of words change
 over time. One of my favorite examples is the word nice. Its
 original meaning was naughty. I wonder how and when its meaning was
 completely turned around.
 
 Hal


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OT Meanings of words was: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread James Bailey



On 25.08.2004 14:14 Uhr, Mark D Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Walking isn't a very good translation of andante.  The closest
 English equivalent would be going, and in the musical context it's
 more like moving.  Perhaps you are getting confused with Spanish,
 where andar is associated more closely with walking, though even
 there it's much broader than the English word walk, which is very
 specific.  In Italian or Spanish one might andar by horseback, by
 train, or by car, and it's the usual word for all sorts of go idioms.
   If I say, andiamo, I'm not saying let's walk.
 
  Even after the *great* reform in
 the late nineteenth century to using native-language terms, we've
 reverted
 to outdated and often confusing terms. I've had college-level classes
 where
 the meanings of musical terms was debated! What's the point? If the
 point is
 to be as clear as possible, but how can one be in a language that
 isn't your
 own?  Sorry, off-topic.
 
 Basic music words like allegro, andante, legato, crescendo, etc, are no
 longer foreign words in English.  They are English words of Italian
 origin, just as surely as graffiti, zucchini, soprano, etc.  In most
 cases the English meaning doesn't match the Italian meaning.  For
 example, there are a lot of ways you might use the word legato in
 Italian that have nothing to do with music.  Same for libretto and
 dozens of others.

But this is the point. Words have meanings, but if, as you say (and I agree)
the English meaning doesn't match the Italian meaning, what is the English
meaning? That's the whole point, as far as I'm concerned. We have all the
musical terms that we've changed the meaning of. My composition teacher in
college was a stickler for the absolute accurate literal translation of
musical terms, where many of the other professors were not.

In my observation, performers use what they *think* the word means, and
don't frequently consult musical dictionaries to discover the actual,
literal translation of a word.


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Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-24 Thread James Bailey
I always thought of orchestration as simply the process of writing music for
instruments; whereas transcription would be used in any case where the
destination ensemble is not the same as the original.  So Bach's versions of
Vivaldi's concerto's works as a transcription as well as transcribing a
piano sonata for string quartet.  I think of transcription as the
classical version of arrangement.  Since arrangement isn't really used in
classical circles.


On 24.08.2004 8:03 Uhr, Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 23, 2004, at 6:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
 On 23 Aug 2004 at 11:35, Mark D Lew wrote:
 
 The definitions that Andrew Stiller gave sound exactly right to me.
 
 My only quibble is with the idea that orchestration applies only to
 orchestras. I thought it was now pretty common to use the term
 metaphorically as replacement for the klunky instrumentation, and
 to apply to any destination ensemble, even if not an actual
 orchestra.
 
 
 
 That would have been my quibble too, as I mentioned in my first long
 post.
 
 Christopher
 
 So you guys wd. have no problem with, this piano sonata was later
 orchestrated for string quartet? To me  that makes as much sense as
 Admission is free, so pay at the door; pull up a chair and sit on the
 floor.
 
 It seems to me that the tendency to misuse orchestration this way
 reflects the widespread discomfort with the word arrangement in
 classical circles. Maybe someday it'll be acceptable usage (after all,
 sopranos changed from boys to girls, so anything is possible!) but it
 certainly isn't today. Not around me, anyway.
 
 Andrew Stiller
 Kallisti Music Press
 http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
 
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Re: [Finale] Reply to Owain (too long!)

2004-08-24 Thread James Bailey
Netscape 7.2


On 24.08.2004 12:53 Uhr, Eden - Lawrence D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What browser is better than IE if I am still using OS 9.2?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Reply to Owain (too long!)

2004-08-24 Thread James Bailey
Opera 6


On 24.08.2004 13:58 Uhr, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Owain Sutton wrote:
 
 Or Opera.
 
 (I think...)
 
 
 
 James Bailey wrote:
 
 Netscape 7.2
 
 
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Re: [Finale] German Musical Term

2004-08-21 Thread James Bailey
Literally, «herausgegeben» translates to edited; whereas «bearbeitet» is
worked over.  In meaning and intent, they are the same, one's just a fancier
way of saying it.  Also, «herausgegeben» can also mean published, whereas
«bearbeitet» cannot.


Auf 21.08.2004 6:56 Uhr, schrieb dhbailey
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 Éric Dussault wrote:
 
 I think it would be more like « published by » (herausgegeben)
 
 Éric
 
 Le 21 août 2004, à 08:50, dhbailey a écrit :
 
 What does herausgegaben von mean, then?
 
 I see it as a separate entry, but it isn't the name of the publisher,
 it's the name of an individual.  I always assumed it meaned edited by
 or arranged by.
 
 So I wonder what its particular usage means, since it's not really the
 name of the publisher.



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Re: [Finale] German Musical Term

2004-08-21 Thread James Bailey
Yes.


Auf 21.08.2004 11:31 Uhr, schrieb Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Isn't published veröffentlich?
 
 Martin
 
 
 
 On Aug 21, 2004, at 2:10 PM, James Bailey wrote:
 
 Literally, «herausgegeben» translates to edited; whereas «bearbeitet»
 is
 worked over.  In meaning and intent, they are the same, one's just a
 fancier
 way of saying it.  Also, «herausgegeben» can also mean published,
 whereas
 «bearbeitet» cannot.
 
 
 Auf 21.08.2004 6:56 Uhr, schrieb dhbailey
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 Éric Dussault wrote:
 
 I think it would be more like « published by » (herausgegeben)
 
 Éric
 
 Le 21 août 2004, à 08:50, dhbailey a écrit :
 
 What does herausgegaben von mean, then?
 
 I see it as a separate entry, but it isn't the name of the publisher,
 it's the name of an individual.  I always assumed it meaned edited
 by
 or arranged by.
 
 So I wonder what its particular usage means, since it's not really the
 name of the publisher.
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-15 Thread James Bailey
Okay, so if an icon suddenly appeared then either you dragged it to the dock
or you installed a piece of software.  In the former case, just drag it off.
In the latter case, you would have had to have entered your password to
install it.  The information here isn't enough to know what happened, nor
what you want to do about it.

A post like this would be better served with more information and on the
discussion boards at Apple support.


Auf 15.08.2004 12:54 Uhr, schrieb Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 A student brought me Josh Groban newest release to listen to, and when I
 popped it into my MAC, it seized up.  An icon also appeared in the task bar
 that has the word Start in it.  I had to UNPLUG to get it to let go.  Even
 though no damage was done, the icon has remained in the task bar.  If this
 had happened on my PC, with which I am infinitely more familiar, I would
 open the Start Menu and remove it.  I don't know how to do this on the MAC;
 can anyone help?
 
 Incidentally, I placed this same CD in my e-machine and a visual displays
 opens inviting me to join his fan club or some such nonsense.  I conjecture
 that this is what is bringin up the unfamiliar start icon on the MAC.
 
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