Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
I have a problem something like this too FINMAC -- I have a wireless mouse and I get a straight on crash with the leap. GJB From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 12:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014? Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Thanks, nice to know it's not just me. The behavior is erratic and not easy to describe. There seem to be real bugs. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:07 AM, GERALD BERG gj.b...@rogers.com wrote: I have a problem something like this too FINMAC -- I have a wireless mouse and I get a straight on crash with the leap. GJB From: Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 12:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014? Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
And - I just closed the other open apps, and the problem persists. Of course, other apps are open in the background - Mail and Safari, for instance, and QuicKeys, but nothing active in the finder. This is a drag, and I can't figure it out. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Chuck, Are you using a trackpad? If so, try clicking Trackpad Options. (Or maybe even try doing this regardless, as I think trackpad options also affects the scrolling surface on the Magic Mouse.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Neither - Logitech MX mouse. Found the without inertia control in the trackpad options - makes no difference. Ugh. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Are you using a trackpad? If so, try clicking Trackpad Options. (Or maybe even try doing this regardless, as I think trackpad options also affects the scrolling surface on the Magic Mouse.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Quitting Finale and re-opening it cures the problem - but only temporarily. So - what could cause this to happen after Finale is open a while? Memory issues? No idea. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Are you using a trackpad? If so, try clicking Trackpad Options. (Or maybe even try doing this regardless, as I think trackpad options also affects the scrolling surface on the Magic Mouse.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Chuck, Regarding the scroll view scrolling, you might possibly consider switching to iKey as your marco/keyboard shortcut creator. I have shortcuts programmed to click the measure forward and measure back buttons in Fin2014, as well as the screen forward and screen back buttons, and I have never had any issues with them working erratically. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Quitting Finale and re-opening it cures the problem - but only temporarily. So - what could cause this to happen after Finale is open a while? Memory issues? No idea. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Are you using a trackpad? If so, try clicking Trackpad Options. (Or maybe even try doing this regardless, as I think trackpad options also affects the scrolling surface on the Magic Mouse.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Darcy, Not sure if iKey does all that QuicKeys can do (and I have inherited many well constructed shortcuts from my engraver friend, Greg Hamilton in Vancouver) even though QuicKeys has (theoretically, at least) not been supported for OSX… for years. The shortcuts and macros seem to still work, and I am pretty dependent on them. If iKey will really do all that QuiKeys can do, it would be worth building all those things again. Meanwhile, SmartScroll and clicking in the scroll bar on either side of the cursor (couldn't remember that word in our earlier correspondence - that's what aging will do to your brain!) works just fine, as long as Finale is behaving itself. If I simply have to quit and restart Finale more often, I guess that will have to do until this bug is killed. Good to be in contact with you again. We will be in NY when I am judging the Essentially Ellington competition next month (5/7-10 and then staying a few days). Maybe we will have a chance to visit. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Regarding the scroll view scrolling, you might possibly consider switching to iKey as your marco/keyboard shortcut creator. I have shortcuts programmed to click the measure forward and measure back buttons in Fin2014, as well as the screen forward and screen back buttons, and I have never had any issues with them working erratically. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Quitting Finale and re-opening it cures the problem - but only temporarily. So - what could cause this to happen after Finale is open a while? Memory issues? No idea. On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, Are you using a trackpad? If so, try clicking Trackpad Options. (Or maybe even try doing this regardless, as I think trackpad options also affects the scrolling surface on the Magic Mouse.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, Just looked for this: From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose Accessibility. Click the Mouse Options button. Got this far - and then In the Scrolling menu, choose without inertia. But there is no Scrolling Menu - so no place to turn off inertial scrolling. (OS 10.8.5) On Apr 6, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Great! Thanks Darcy. GJB From: Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014? Hi Chuck, You need to click in Finale's menubar to resolve the Fin2014 focus issues — clicking the application icon does not work. Regarding scrolling, I haven't seen the problems you describe, but have you tried turning off inertial scrolling? http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5544/~/problems-with-speedy-entry-and-scrolling-with-inertia Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, No, I thought this was an issue related to Finale not being thefront app, so I clicked on the Finale icon in the dock - the usual solution for the runaway playback problem. I will try this - but perhaps others have found similar horizontal navigation problems with 2014 (nothing like this ever occurred in 2012) where clicking in the horizontal scroll bar on either side of the location indicator (don't know what to call that gray thing) results in an uncontrollable jump beyond one window's worth of territory and then clicking on the other side results in the same erratic behavior in the other direction, making it maddeningly difficult to get to any location one window on either side of the location on which you are working. Similar behavior also sometimes happens using the SmartScroll app (a handy app that allows horizontal scrolling one measure at a time using Command/Option or Command/Control). In this case, Finale 2014 jumps two or more measures instead of one. If I am remembering this correctly, it happens only after Finale has been open for a while. I am working on transcribing and arranging music that requires that both Preview and Transcribe apps are open at the same time as Finale. I don't remember whether I have encountered this when only Finale is open. Anyway, your ideas are always helpful, so any light you can shed will be appreciated. Meanwhile, I'll try the white space menu bar click to see if that works. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote Hi Chuck, Did you try clicking in the whitespace of the menu bar? Clicking on an actual menu item doesn't solve the issue, the click needs to be in the whitespace. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 6, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, This worked for a while. Then the problem returned and would not respond to this solution. I am having serious navigation problems with 2014. It seems awfully buggy to me. Chuck Israels (360) 201-3434 Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list
[Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
There is also a startup bug for those with Apple displays. Forced me back to the pre-A version. From the sounds of Chuck and Craig, that's where I'll stay. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
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It's so slow and crashes all the timemost unusable upgrade ever. Back to 2012. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote: There is also a startup bug for those with Apple displays. Forced me back to the pre-A version. From the sounds of Chuck and Craig, that's where I'll stay. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Darcy, If this works, that will be a considerable help. This is similar to what happens when you click Finale Playback and another app is in front and you can't stop the Finale playback until you bring Finale to the front again. I will try this. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean. And it doesn't screw up on all of them -- just some of them. But it makes such a mess that you can't really use the tool. I cannot recall whether this was broken at the base 2014 level of whether the A patch broke it. Does anybody have a recollection of that? Is there an easy way to back off the A patch, short of wiping out the installation and reinstalling again? It surely seems that 3 months ought to be enough time for the company to fix some of these bugs. On 4/5/2014 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
You were right! This works. On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Darcy, If this works, that will be a considerable help. This is similar to what happens when you click Finale Playback and another app is in front and you can't stop the Finale playback until you bring Finale to the front again. I will try this. Thank you, Darcy. Chuck On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Chuck, I believe the trigger for the arrows not working in Speedy is when an autosave is triggered while a different application is in the foreground. The solution to this (and many other similar bugs in Fin2014) is to click in the menu bar. This restores focus to Finale — something that is supposed to happen when you switch back to Finale being the frontmost application. I've just gotten into the habit of always clicking in the titlebar whenever I switch back to Fin2014 from a different app. [This is a Mac-only issue as far as I know.] Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, there are bugs. The one you mention happens when the hairpins extend to the end of the measure. It renders the Smart Find and Paste feature nearly unusable. There are a number of other deeply annoying bugs - scrolling issues that occur when Finale has been open for a while, making navigation difficult, and one of the most annoying; cursor keys stop working in Speedy Entry (erratically - sometimes they work sometimes not) making navigation among entry points within the Speedy Entry frame require the use of the mouse - not at all convenient. This is the first time I've been so frustrated with an upgrade. On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
On Apr 5, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean. Yes, that's what I meant, and MM is aware of the bug, for whatever that is worth. Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
On 2014-04-05 22:34, Craig Parmerlee wrote: In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean. And it doesn't screw up on all of them -- just some of them. But it makes such a mess that you can't really use the tool. Have you sent a bug report to MM that has been confirmed? If you want, you could send me a bug file as well, with reproducible steps, and I could forward it on the beta channel if needed. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
Hi Jari, According to my conversation with one of the tech support people, MM is aware of this bug. Chuck On Apr 5, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2014-04-05 22:34, Craig Parmerlee wrote: In my case, I think the hairpins went to beat 4 (not literally to the edge of the measure), but maybe that is what you mean. And it doesn't screw up on all of them -- just some of them. But it makes such a mess that you can't really use the tool. Have you sent a bug report to MM that has been confirmed? If you want, you could send me a bug file as well, with reproducible steps, and I could forward it on the beta channel if needed. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
It really is a shame because 2014 is a good release in many respects. The Windows version has caused me relatively few problems, but this smart copy one is enough to drive one batty. I had hoped they had turned the corner after taking so much time to get 2014 out. I compare Finale with Cakewalk. I am a regular Sonar user. There are many similarities between the companies. Both have been around decades and have a large, loyal, extremely forgiving user base. Both companies got into financial difficulties and went through massive ownership changes. In Cakewalk's case, they were acquired by Roland for a number of years. During that time, they tried to advance the state of the art with their X1 and X2 platforms. Those packages were impressive, but so loaded with bugs they lost many users and couldn't attract new users. Their ownership thought the path forward was to keep developing new stuff and not attend to the bugs. It really came almost to riot proportions among the user base. There were many good people at Cakewalk, just as I am sure the same is true of Finale. And I'm sure none of them felt good about having such a poor quality product on the market. That didn't really change until Gibson bought Cakewalk. That was about the time that they released X3. While X3 continued strong technology leadership, there was clearly a huge effort put into cleaning up long-standing bugs. Most notably, in the 6 months that X3 has been out, there have been 5 major patch levels. There are still a few bugs, of course, but the user base is wildly enthusiastic now and actively recommending the product to colleagues. I'm not saying that a product must have one big patch release every 30 days, but a product with as many issues as Finale really deserves more than one patch release in 5 months. On 4/5/2014 2:38 PM, Mike Greensill wrote: It's so slow and crashes all the timemost unusable upgrade ever. Back to 2012. Mike G. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
