[Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
Hello I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a melodic line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. Is there eventually another solution? Thank you Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a melodic >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
Carissimo, Use Transposition under Mass Edit and check Preserve Original Notes. I'll contact you again off-list soon...!! Ciao, Hans Giovanni Andreani wrote: Hello I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a melodic line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. Is there eventually another solution? Thank you Giovanni Andreani ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
On 24 Jun 2005 at 9:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a > melodic > >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. > > No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. > > Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | > Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box > that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. Oh, man, I feel so stupid for never noticing that one! I have a cheap MIDI keyboard that is 5 octaves C to C (instead of down a 5th, F to F, which would fit a lot more music), and I'm always needing to fill in lower octaves in piano left hand parts. This would have saved me much annoyance had I known about it! Just goes to show that you can use a program for 15 years and still miss out on significant features. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
Even more useful are the Mass Edit programmable metatools for transposition (number keys 6 thru 9). I have 6 and 7 defined as up and down an octave, respectively, and 8 and 9 up and down an octave while keeping the original notes. You can define these four keys by pressing Shift and a number while in Mass Edit, then selecting which transposition you want. To invoke the metatool, simply select a region and press the key. I find this a huge time saver and would hate to do without it. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com > On 24 Jun 2005 at 9:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > > > At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a > > melodic > > >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. > > > > No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. > > > > Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | > > Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box > > that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. > > Oh, man, I feel so stupid for never noticing that one! I have a cheap > MIDI keyboard that is 5 octaves C to C (instead of down a 5th, F to > F, which would fit a lot more music), and I'm always needing to fill > in lower octaves in piano left hand parts. This would have saved me > much annoyance had I known about it! > > Just goes to show that you can use a program for 15 years and still > miss out on significant features. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton > David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
I too use the metatools 6--9 to exclusion- but really wish that there were more available. Why not have 1 thru 9 or 0 available? I would love to have tone up, t down, 3 up, 3 down etc etc right thru to 8ves. I find 'Keep original notes' is no hassle to 'tickabox' in or out. Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Actor Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 3:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave Even more useful are the Mass Edit programmable metatools for transposition (number keys 6 thru 9). I have 6 and 7 defined as up and down an octave, respectively, and 8 and 9 up and down an octave while keeping the original notes. You can define these four keys by pressing Shift and a number while in Mass Edit, then selecting which transposition you want. To invoke the metatool, simply select a region and press the key. I find this a huge time saver and would hate to do without it. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com > On 24 Jun 2005 at 9:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > > > At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a > > melodic > > >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. > > > > No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. > > > > Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | > > Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box > > that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. > > Oh, man, I feel so stupid for never noticing that one! I have a cheap > MIDI keyboard that is 5 octaves C to C (instead of down a 5th, F to > F, which would fit a lot more music), and I'm always needing to fill > in lower octaves in piano left hand parts. This would have saved me > much annoyance had I known about it! > > Just goes to show that you can use a program for 15 years and still > miss out on significant features. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton > David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
I wish there were more, too, but there are also seven predefined metatools: 1-5, 'I', and 'E', and the only one I use with regularity is 5 (Elasped Time). Some may not be aware that the TGTools keyboard remapper allows you to assign a key to any key or menu command in Finale, which I use for one-key access for all the major tools and my favorite commands and plug-ins. Can't quite do what a Mass Edit metatool can, though. -Lee > > I too use the metatools 6--9 to exclusion- but really wish that there were > more available. Why not have 1 thru 9 or 0 available? > I would love to have tone up, t down, 3 up, 3 down etc etc right thru to > 8ves. > I find 'Keep original notes' is no hassle to 'tickabox' in or out. > > Keith Helgesen. > Director of Music, Canberra City Band. > Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 > Private Mob 0417-042171 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Lee Actor > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 3:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; finale@shsu.edu > Subject: RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave > > Even more useful are the Mass Edit programmable metatools for > transposition > (number keys 6 thru 9). I have 6 and 7 defined as up and down an octave, > respectively, and 8 and 9 up and down an octave while keeping the original > notes. You can define these four keys by pressing Shift and a > number while > in Mass Edit, then selecting which transposition you want. To invoke the > metatool, simply select a region and press the key. I find this > a huge time > saver and would hate to do without it. > > Lee Actor > Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic > http://www.leeactor.com > > > > > On 24 Jun 2005 at 9:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > > > > > At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > > I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a > > > melodic > > > >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. > > > > > > No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. > > > > > > Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | > > > Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box > > > that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. > > > > Oh, man, I feel so stupid for never noticing that one! I have a cheap > > MIDI keyboard that is 5 octaves C to C (instead of down a 5th, F to > > F, which would fit a lot more music), and I'm always needing to fill > > in lower octaves in piano left hand parts. This would have saved me > > much annoyance had I known about it! > > > > Just goes to show that you can use a program for 15 years and still > > miss out on significant features. > > > > -- > > David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton > > David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:02 PM, keith helgesen wrote: I too use the metatools 6--9 to exclusion- but really wish that there were more available. Why not have 1 thru 9 or 0 available? I would love to have tone up, t down, 3 up, 3 down etc etc right thru to 8ves. I find 'Keep original notes' is no hassle to 'tickabox' in or out. Except that you can't toggle it when you use the metatool. That's the only inconvenience. You would have to define the metatool with it on, then redefine it to turn it off. I find the Mass Edit metatools so convenient where they are that I would hate to move them. 1 is implode, 2 is explode, 3 is beat spacing (for scores) 4 is note spacing (for everything else), 5 is elapsed time (clients mostly need it, I couldn't care less most of the time), then 6 through 9 are for transpositions. I use 6 for 8ve down 7 for 8ve up 8 and 9 for diatonic step down and up respectively. It is no problem to hit 8 twice to get a diatonic 3rd down, or more as necessary. I can redefine the transpositions with Shift-6 whenever I need to for a particular problem, but I always change them back because they are so darn useful the way I default them to. Now, if the metatools could expand to include the alphabetical keys, too, now THAT would be something! I would LOVE to have say, Retranscribe or Change... Noteheads under a single key. Perhaps PCers already have that capability, but on Mac, we are sadly lacking in keyboard equivelants. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
Again, you mention TG- (see my other post to the list at this time!) Since neither you nor I, and presumably others, use all the 'predefined metas, why can we not re-define those we don't use? Cheers K Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Actor Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 7:33 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave I wish there were more, too, but there are also seven predefined metatools: 1-5, 'I', and 'E', and the only one I use with regularity is 5 (Elasped Time). Some may not be aware that the TGTools keyboard remapper allows you to assign a key to any key or menu command in Finale, which I use for one-key access for all the major tools and my favorite commands and plug-ins. Can't quite do what a Mass Edit metatool can, though. -Lee > > I too use the metatools 6--9 to exclusion- but really wish that there were > more available. Why not have 1 thru 9 or 0 available? > I would love to have tone up, t down, 3 up, 3 down etc etc right thru to > 8ves. > I find 'Keep original notes' is no hassle to 'tickabox' in or out. > > Keith Helgesen. > Director of Music, Canberra City Band. > Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 > Private Mob 0417-042171 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Lee Actor > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 3:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; finale@shsu.edu > Subject: RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave > > Even more useful are the Mass Edit programmable metatools for > transposition > (number keys 6 thru 9). I have 6 and 7 defined as up and down an octave, > respectively, and 8 and 9 up and down an octave while keeping the original > notes. You can define these four keys by pressing Shift and a > number while > in Mass Edit, then selecting which transposition you want. To invoke the > metatool, simply select a region and press the key. I find this > a huge time > saver and would hate to do without it. > > Lee Actor > Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic > http://www.leeactor.com > > > > > On 24 Jun 2005 at 9:41, Aaron Sherber wrote: > > > > > At 09:28 AM 06/24/2005, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > > I was wondering if there's a plugin that automatically doubles a > > > melodic > > > >line one octave higher or lower in the same staff. > > > > > > No plugin needed -- Finale will do this for you. > > > > > > Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool. Then select Mass Edit | > > > Transpose. Set the transposition for up one octave, and check the box > > > that says 'Preserve Original Notes'. > > > > Oh, man, I feel so stupid for never noticing that one! I have a cheap > > MIDI keyboard that is 5 octaves C to C (instead of down a 5th, F to > > F, which would fit a lot more music), and I'm always needing to fill > > in lower octaves in piano left hand parts. This would have saved me > > much annoyance had I known about it! > > > > Just goes to show that you can use a program for 15 years and still > > miss out on significant features. > > > > -- > > David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton > > David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave
Agree- a toggle would be great, but is there some hi-tech reason why alpha keys cannot be used for metas? Or- as another thought, Could not, for example, 8 be octave up and Shift8 (or Ctrl 8 or ??) be for 'keep original notes'. Cheers, K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 7:42 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling a Melodic Line one Octave On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:02 PM, keith helgesen wrote: > I too use the metatools 6--9 to exclusion- but really wish that there > were > more available. Why not have 1 thru 9 or 0 available? > I would love to have tone up, t down, 3 up, 3 down etc etc right thru > to > 8ves. > I find 'Keep original notes' is no hassle to 'tickabox' in or out. > Except that you can't toggle it when you use the metatool. That's the only inconvenience. You would have to define the metatool with it on, then redefine it to turn it off. I find the Mass Edit metatools so convenient where they are that I would hate to move them. 1 is implode, 2 is explode, 3 is beat spacing (for scores) 4 is note spacing (for everything else), 5 is elapsed time (clients mostly need it, I couldn't care less most of the time), then 6 through 9 are for transpositions. I use 6 for 8ve down 7 for 8ve up 8 and 9 for diatonic step down and up respectively. It is no problem to hit 8 twice to get a diatonic 3rd down, or more as necessary. I can redefine the transpositions with Shift-6 whenever I need to for a particular problem, but I always change them back because they are so darn useful the way I default them to. Now, if the metatools could expand to include the alphabetical keys, too, now THAT would be something! I would LOVE to have say, Retranscribe or Change... Noteheads under a single key. Perhaps PCers already have that capability, but on Mac, we are sadly lacking in keyboard equivelants. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
