Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
Somebody posted a fascinating link on this subject a year or so ago who was it? It explained the whole reasoning behind the marking divisions on modern metronomes. Christopher On Jan 30, 2005, at 1:00 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Little OT. This is my long time question that I was too embarrassed to ask, while this list seems to have the best resources. Please forgive me if this is too dumb. I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. Is there any rule to this? Or is this even a common practice? Any help once for all would be appreciated. :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. Just a numerical sequence it seems that each number is a rounded off percentage increase from the previous one. It may be that just noticeable differences in tempo are percentage differences rather than absolute differences. A little experimentation with a calculator shows that the percent increase in the sequence is 5 percent (I did not try all of the metronome numbers, just the ones you listed.) Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
Looking up 'metronome' I found a hilarious video link. Here is the text, then the link: One educator describes 'wheels' with the left hand. Uniform circular motion of the hand (and arm) is essential. One wheel always represents a quarter note. Two spokes to the wheel beat eighth notes; three spokes beat triplets; four beat sixteenths, and so on. Set the metronome at any appropriate tempo and turn one wheel for each beat of the metronome. http://www.franzmfg.com/mtbook/wheels.ram Notice how out-of-synch that arm gets in just a few beats - and this is supposed to be a MODEL of accuracy! Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
Richard Yates wrote: I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. This article by John Greschak should answer your questions -- http://www.greschak.com/polytempo/ptts.htm Daniel Wolf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
Hiro, I think the common MM numbers were probably a result of how much room there was for the numbers on a stand-up mechanical metronome. Also must of the numbers are factorable, that is not prime numbers, which makes it easier to divide them. With compute4rs, of course, any MM numbers are possible. I use the standard numbers because so many musicians still use mechanical metronomes. Hal Little OT. This is my long time question that I was too embarrassed to ask, while this list seems to have the best resources. Please forgive me if this is too dumb. I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. Is there any rule to this? Or is this even a common practice? Any help once for all would be appreciated. :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Metronome Value Question
Well, I think there is two reasons for this: Firstly, if you devided the metronome all the way in two tick steps, this would make sense between 40 and 50, but the difference between 200 and 202 is so minute, it wouldn't matter. The values are done in such a way that you can always double them and find the value on the scale. You will find 40, 80 and 160, and so on. Makes some sense. But there is no direct relation to the human pulse - it's all tradition. Johannes A-NO-NE Music wrote: Little OT. This is my long time question that I was too embarrassed to ask, while this list seems to have the best resources. Please forgive me if this is too dumb. I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. Is there any rule to this? Or is this even a common practice? Any help once for all would be appreciated. :-) -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Metronome Value Question
Little OT. This is my long time question that I was too embarrassed to ask, while this list seems to have the best resources. Please forgive me if this is too dumb. I was always wondering how metronome value are divided, meaning, I am used to increment by two from 40 up to 60, but I have never seen 62. It's 60, 63, 66, 69, 72. But next is not 75. It's 76, is it not? I always _felt_ this is something to do with how human naturally relates to pulse, but it could had only been my imagination. Is there any rule to this? Or is this even a common practice? Any help once for all would be appreciated. :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
