Re: [Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[Raymond Horton]

Ok, I haven't had time to try anything yet , but in my defense, I did not
use the pickup measure function as I know it is totally bugged. My fault
for being unclear in my first message. I actually did exactly as
Christopher describes, but I still have the problems. Thanks
On Nov 29, 2015 7:24 AM, "Christopher Smith" 
wrote:

> J D has it right. Furthermore, I would suggest that in the future NOT to
> use the pickup measure feature, but create it the old-fashioned way by
> making the time signature 1/8 but display as 4/4, and start the measure
> numbering from bar 2. (DON’T exclude the first measure from measure
> numbering using the Measure Attributes, as this causes problems galore in
> other tools.)
>
> Christopher
>
>
> > On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:38 PM, J D Thomas  wrote:
> >
> > You need to reset the pickup measure from the set pickup m. menu and
> deselect what's there.
> >
> > Sent from my iSomething-or-other
> >
> >> On Nov 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Raymond Horton 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Windows Finale 2014: I had a pickup measure of 1/8 note that I had
> labeled
> >> as not included in measure numbering. Now I am trying to insert a 90
> >> measure piece in front of it and I can't get rid of the #1 bar.  This
> has
> >> fouled up other things such as putting in double bars and final bars. I
> >> can't figure out how to clear this, I've tried deleting the measure etc
> >> etc, nothing seems to help. Thanks for any suggestions!
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Re: [Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[Christopher Smith]

Ah, in that case it sounds like you have some file corruption. It may be 
mild—just preventing you from deleting the first measure or inserting. 

Fortunately, this happened to me once (without a pickup, but that shouldn’t 
matter.) Cut the entire piece (command X), then paste it 90 measures later with 
Command-V. You may have some time sigs and key sigs to clear, and I have found 
that sometimes double barlines need to be reset so that they correctly break 
multi measure rests. Then you can paste in your new piece. Make sure you copy 
and paste measure STACKS so that keys, time sigs and everything get copied.


Christopher


> On Nov 29, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I haven't had time to try anything yet , but in my defense, I did not
> use the pickup measure function as I know it is totally bugged. My fault
> for being unclear in my first message. I actually did exactly as
> Christopher describes, but I still have the problems. Thanks
> On Nov 29, 2015 7:24 AM, "Christopher Smith" 
> wrote:
> 
>> J D has it right. Furthermore, I would suggest that in the future NOT to
>> use the pickup measure feature, but create it the old-fashioned way by
>> making the time signature 1/8 but display as 4/4, and start the measure
>> numbering from bar 2. (DON’T exclude the first measure from measure
>> numbering using the Measure Attributes, as this causes problems galore in
>> other tools.)
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:38 PM, J D Thomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need to reset the pickup measure from the set pickup m. menu and
>> deselect what's there.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iSomething-or-other
>>> 
 On Nov 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Raymond Horton 
>> wrote:
 
 Windows Finale 2014: I had a pickup measure of 1/8 note that I had
>> labeled
 as not included in measure numbering. Now I am trying to insert a 90
 measure piece in front of it and I can't get rid of the #1 bar.  This
>> has
 fouled up other things such as putting in double bars and final bars. I
 can't figure out how to clear this, I've tried deleting the measure etc
 etc, nothing seems to help. Thanks for any suggestions!
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Re: [Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[Christopher Smith]

J D has it right. Furthermore, I would suggest that in the future NOT to use 
the pickup measure feature, but create it the old-fashioned way by making the 
time signature 1/8 but display as 4/4, and start the measure numbering from bar 
2. (DON’T exclude the first measure from measure numbering using the Measure 
Attributes, as this causes problems galore in other tools.)

Christopher


> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:38 PM, J D Thomas  wrote:
> 
> You need to reset the pickup measure from the set pickup m. menu and deselect 
> what's there. 
> 
> Sent from my iSomething-or-other
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
>> 
>> Windows Finale 2014: I had a pickup measure of 1/8 note that I had labeled
>> as not included in measure numbering. Now I am trying to insert a 90
>> measure piece in front of it and I can't get rid of the #1 bar.  This has
>> fouled up other things such as putting in double bars and final bars. I
>> can't figure out how to clear this, I've tried deleting the measure etc
>> etc, nothing seems to help. Thanks for any suggestions!
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Re: [Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[j...@thomastudios.com]

Good idea Christopher.  But with a large copy paste, it might be a better idea 
to copy and Insert to assure all key and time sigs make it over.  Copy and 
paste is very buggy in all versions of Finale, especially if any tuplets are 
involved.


***
J D Thomas
ThomaStudios



> On Nov 29, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, in that case it sounds like you have some file corruption. It may be 
> mild—just preventing you from deleting the first measure or inserting. 
> 
> Fortunately, this happened to me once (without a pickup, but that shouldn’t 
> matter.) Cut the entire piece (command X), then paste it 90 measures later 
> with Command-V. You may have some time sigs and key sigs to clear, and I have 
> found that sometimes double barlines need to be reset so that they correctly 
> break multi measure rests. Then you can paste in your new piece. Make sure 
> you copy and paste measure STACKS so that keys, time sigs and everything get 
> copied.
> 


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Re: [Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[J D Thomas]

You need to reset the pickup measure from the set pickup m. menu and deselect 
what's there. 

Sent from my iSomething-or-other

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> Windows Finale 2014: I had a pickup measure of 1/8 note that I had labeled
> as not included in measure numbering. Now I am trying to insert a 90
> measure piece in front of it and I can't get rid of the #1 bar.  This has
> fouled up other things such as putting in double bars and final bars. I
> can't figure out how to clear this, I've tried deleting the measure etc
> etc, nothing seems to help. Thanks for any suggestions!
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[Finale] how do I delete #1 measures?

[Raymond Horton]

Windows Finale 2014: I had a pickup measure of 1/8 note that I had labeled
as not included in measure numbering. Now I am trying to insert a 90
measure piece in front of it and I can't get rid of the #1 bar.  This has
fouled up other things such as putting in double bars and final bars. I
can't figure out how to clear this, I've tried deleting the measure etc
etc, nothing seems to help. Thanks for any suggestions!
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