Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Williams, Jim
Hi, Linda.
Using finale fonts in word documents may often be problematic due to issues of 
baselines and spacing.

You'd be better served to download the Bach font, which contains myriad symbols 
and is specifically designed for use in word and similar programs. Of course, 
it comes with a character map so you can see which keys produce which symbols.

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com wrote:

 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Mac/Content/Finale/Maestro_Font.htm

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Sendt fra min iPad

Den 08/04/2013 kl. 18.47 skrev Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com:

 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Michael Mathew
Linda,

Here is another source from the finale website and reference manual with 
alternative and text versions of music fonts:

http://www.finalemusic.com/usermanuals/finale2012mac/content/Finale/Alternative_music_fonts.htm

 
Michael
mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
http://oregonmts.com/mathew/



 From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
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Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
keystrokes for the various symbpols?

Thanks!
Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Don Hart
Hi Linda,

Not being sure exactly what you need to accomplish, you may have decent
luck with the Engraver Text fonts (H, NCS and T).  The baseline issue
mentioned above isn't as much of a problem, at least, because those fonts
are sized to match normal font texts (i.e., a quarter note in 12 point
EngraverTextT looks about the right size next to text in 12 point
Palatino).

When you start putting other musical elements with notes it may not always
make the best musical sense, as most everything appears to sit on the same
baseline.

Hope that helps.

Don


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Linda,

 Here is another source from the finale website and reference manual with
 alternative and text versions of music fonts:


 http://www.finalemusic.com/usermanuals/finale2012mac/content/Finale/Alternative_music_fonts.htm


 Michael
 mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
 http://oregonmts.com/mathew/


 
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 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
 Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?
 
 Thanks!
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
There is also a set of fonts called Bach with various sets of notes and
beams, and another that I use for text called MusiQwik. The latter isn't as
pretty but has predefined staves and time signatures for pretty fast text
entry.

 From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
 Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols

 I occasionally need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?



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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Don Hart
Actually, the size of the elements in the EngraverText fonts is as I
described.  But although characters line up horizontally with other fonts,
extra space is added below any line where an EngraverText fonts is used. -
Don


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz 
bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:

 There is also a set of fonts called Bach with various sets of notes and
 beams, and another that I use for text called MusiQwik. The latter isn't
 as
 pretty but has predefined staves and time signatures for pretty fast text
 entry.

  From: Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com
  To: finale@shsu.edu
  Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 9:47 AM
  Subject: [Finale] typing in music symbols
 
  I occasionally need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
  etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
  keystrokes for the various symbpols?



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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/8/2013 12:47 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:
 I occasionallyh need to type music symbols (ff, quarter note, fermata,
 etc.) into a Word file.  Is there a chart somewhere that contains all the
 keystrokes for the various symbpols?


Linda,

You've gotten some great replies already -- I can't remember if you're 
on a Mac or a Windows computer, but Windows ships with a terrific 
utility called Character Map and there are some other similar programs 
available for free or for small fee.  I don't know if such a program 
exists for the Mac but I hope one does.

With such a program you ask it to show you a font and it shows you all 
the characters in that font and allows you to copy a character and then 
past it into whatever other program you're working in.

I find it so much easier than trying to deal with printed character maps 
and remembering the alt-numpad combinations for characters above the 
128th slot in the font.

Good luck!

-- 
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Linda Worsley
Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
its head on straight.

Thanks again!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread John Blane
Type f twice

On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:

 Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
 problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
 tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
 about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
 its head on straight.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread J D Thomas
Linda, 

One app I use that's very handy for finding and inserting various characters 
system-wide is PopChar.  It does cost $ but I find it indispensable.  It lives 
in the menubar to the left of the Apple menu when installed.

And, according to PopChar, ff fortissimo is opt-f and fff is shift-option-f in 
Maestro.

But you probably already knew that, yes?

J D Thomas
ThomaStudios
 
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:

 Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
 problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
 tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
 about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
 its head on straight.
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Linda
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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Linda:

The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that 
Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological 
Font; It is available as a free download, 
http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is 
designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution 
disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has 
distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find 
it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other 
word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free 
font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for 
example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Linda:

The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that 
Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological 
Font; It is available as a free download, 
http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is 
designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution 
disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has 
distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find 
it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other 
word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free 
font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for 
example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo.

No need to worry about baselines with any of these.

ns

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

2013-04-08 Thread John Roberts
I've used Steve Powell's Metronome fonts for years (from DVM 
Publications), including MetTimes and MetHelvetica, which mix music 
characters with those text fonts.

JR


On 4/8/13 6:26 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
 Linda:

 The real timesaver for you in this situation is one of the fonts that
 Dennis mentioned in his post in this thread, the Bach Musicological
 Font; It is available as a free download,
 http://www.mu.qub.ac.uk/tomita/bachfont/. This is a font that is
 designed to do exactly what you want. You might check the distribution
 disk of your word processor program, too. For years, Corel has
 distributed a music symbol font with Word Perfect, but you have to find
 it in the included fonts and install it. I expect that most of the other
 word processors also include a music symbol font. Also, most of the free
 font sites online have downloadable music symbol fonts for MAC, for
 example, http://www.fontspace.com/dvm-publications/metdemo.

 No need to worry about baselines with any of these.

 ns

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