Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Martin,

Though you don't specify what you're using to produce the prefatory 
material, if you're using a word processor, you may well find that there 
is a mechanism within the word processor for generating a symbol. In 
Wordperfect, three of the available symbols which can be inserted into a 
document are a flat, a sharp, and a natural.


If you are producing the prefatory material as a Finale text block, 
since Finale 2000, there has been at least one manner of shifting the 
baseline so as to move the baseline of a character up or down without 
moving the size of the item. If you want to do it as you go, highlight 
the natural sign, select the "text" option in the menu bar, and from the 
drop down menu select "baseline shift". If you want to make all the 
adjustments at once after you've finished completed the editing, you can 
also find the "baseline shift" menu item subsidiary to the "text item" 
in the "edit text" dialog box.



ns
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RE: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Richard Yates]

In Word I went to Insert--> symbol and found it. That slot says that
Alt+0206 also places that character but when I do that a slightly different
natural sign is inserted. I don't know why that is. In Word, Font-->
Character Spacing can adjust up or down, also.
 
> And what character(s) should I type in to get the natural sign?
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> On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Richard Yates wrote:
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> > Use MaestroTimes, not Maestro.
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> Martin Banner
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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[John Blane]

opt-shift-D

On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Martin Banner wrote:


And what character(s) should I type in to get the natural sign?


On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Richard Yates wrote:


Use MaestroTimes, not Maestro.











Martin Banner
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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

On Mon, March 22, 2010 3:52 pm, Martin Banner wrote:
> And what character(s) should I type in to get the natural sign?

For future reference, there's an easy font called MusiQwik.
 

I use this font for short classroom-style examples that don't require chords.
It's not especially handsome, but it works easily in Word.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Martin Banner]

And what character(s) should I type in to get the natural sign?


On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Richard Yates wrote:


Use MaestroTimes, not Maestro.











Martin Banner
mban...@hvc.rr.com

http://www.alliancemusic.com/peopledetails.cfm?iPeopleID=22

http://hinshawmusic.com/search_results.php?keyword=banner&search=Search

http://collavoce.com/search.php?cmd=search&mode=normal&words=Banner

http://carlfischer.com/Fischer/search.cfm?cfT=&cfC=Banner&cfID=

http://lorenz.com/results.aspx?srch=quick&cid=Martin+Banner

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RE: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Richard Yates]

Use MaestroTimes, not Maestro. 

> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu 
> [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Banner
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:21 AM
> To: Finale
> Subject: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file
> 
> I am writing an editorial preface for one of my editions and 
> want to put a natural sign in a paragraph. When I use maestro 
> font and "n", I get the natural sign, but it appears lower 
> than the rest of the text.  
> I have tried increasing the size of the font(no good, still 
> too low), as well as using superscript (too high above the 
> rest of the text).  
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Martin
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> Martin Banner
> mban...@hvc.rr.com
> 
> http://www.alliancemusic.com/peopledetails.cfm?iPeopleID=22
> 
> http://hinshawmusic.com/search_results.php?keyword=banner&sear
> ch=Search
> 
> http://collavoce.com/search.php?cmd=search&mode=normal&words=Banner
> 
> http://carlfischer.com/Fischer/search.cfm?cfT=&cfC=Banner&cfID=
> 
> http://lorenz.com/results.aspx?srch=quick&cid=Martin+Banner
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RE: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Williams, Jim]

I'm coming late to this thread...but has anyone mentioned the Bach font?


From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Jari 
Williamsson [jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:54 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

Martin Banner wrote:
> I am writing an editorial preface for one of my editions and want to put
> a natural sign in a paragraph. When I use maestro font and "n", I get
> the natural sign, but it appears lower than the rest of the text. I have
> tried increasing the size of the font(no good, still too low), as well
> as using superscript (too high above the rest of the text). Any
> suggestions?

In my version of Word (2000), I can use Format/Character... and there's
a tab there where I can set how high/low I want the selected character.

Best regards,

Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Jari Williamsson]

Martin Banner wrote:
I am writing an editorial preface for one of my editions and want to put 
a natural sign in a paragraph. When I use maestro font and "n", I get 
the natural sign, but it appears lower than the rest of the text. I have 
tried increasing the size of the font(no good, still too low), as well 
as using superscript (too high above the rest of the text). Any 
suggestions?


In my version of Word (2000), I can use Format/Character... and there's 
a tab there where I can set how high/low I want the selected character.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

[Aaron Sherber]

On 3/22/2010 2:21 PM, Martin Banner wrote:

When I use maestro font and "n", I
get the natural sign, but it appears lower than the rest of the text.
I have tried increasing the size of the font(no good, still too low),
as well as using superscript (too high above the rest of the text).
Any suggestions?


In Word, or in layout programs, you should be able to tweak the size and 
position of that character to get it exactly where you want it. You say 
"superscript", for example, but in Word, in addition to the defined 
Superscript character attribute, I can specify exactly how many points I 
want the character raised above the normal baseline. I can do the same 
in something like InDesign.


Another option would be using the EngraverTextT or EngraverTextH fonts 
that come with Finale. These are intended for mixing text and musical 
signs, so that the symbols are sized closer to text at the same point 
size. So a 12-point n in one of these fonts gives you a natural sign 
that fits pretty well with 12-point text. (EngraverTextT has numerals 
from Times, while H has numerals from Helvetica. I think there's also an 
NCS with numerals from New Century Schoolbook. The musical symbols, 
taken from Engraver rather than Maestro, look the same in all of them.)


In either case, you're probably going to have to play with line spacing. 
Either of these solutions will likely make your application want to 
allot more vertical space to the line with a music character. If you've 
got a 1-line bit of text that you're placing somewhere, this won't 
matter, but in a paragraph you'll need to apply manual spacing to get 
all the lines the same height.


Aaron.
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