Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
Right. I forgot that part about creating the text insert. Once you've done it a few hundred times, you forget that it's a necessary step. 8-( C. On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 4/5/2009 6:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: that I created while using 2K4c. Does this change anything with regard to making parts with instrument labels the default behavior now that I am using 2K7? Yes. As I indicated, instrument labels will only be generated in extracted (or linked) parts if the text box with "Part/Score Name" is present in your score. If you want this label always to be present in new scores you create, you need to edit your default file and put the text box in. Otherwise, you will need to add the text box in each new score you make. Christopher indicated that the part generation process remains the same, which is true. But the part labels will not be there unless the text box is there first, either because the current document comes from a template that has the text box, or because you added the text box to the document yourself. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
On 4/5/2009 6:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: that I created while using 2K4c. Does this change anything with regard to making parts with instrument labels the default behavior now that I am using 2K7? Yes. As I indicated, instrument labels will only be generated in extracted (or linked) parts if the text box with "Part/Score Name" is present in your score. If you want this label always to be present in new scores you create, you need to edit your default file and put the text box in. Otherwise, you will need to add the text box in each new score you make. Christopher indicated that the part generation process remains the same, which is true. But the part labels will not be there unless the text box is there first, either because the current document comes from a template that has the text box, or because you added the text box to the document yourself. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
No, no difference. When you click Generate Parts, it will create parts using the staff and group names as they appear. The only thing is that if you use the Setup Wizard in 2007, it will generate the parts as part of the Wizard process, whereas if you don't use the Wiz, you have to generate parts with the command. C. On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Many thanks to Aaron and Christopher for their replies to my question. I forgot to mention that I was working from a Finale Default file that I created while using 2K4c. Does this change anything with regard to making parts with instrument labels the default behavior now that I am using 2K7? My default file has no notation in it...it is just an empty score. On 4/4/2009 11:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: When I extract parts in 2K7, I do not see the staff name on the extracted part. For example: Trumpet 1 in Bb Christopher Smith gave you some answers having to do with linked parts, which were introduced in 2007. If you want to go the old- fashioned Extract Parts route, Finale will still generate linked parts automatically behind the scenes; an extracted part is just a linked part snapshot split out into its own file. If you go through the Extract Parts dialog and you only see Score listed, you first need to click the Generate Parts button to get Finale to create the linked parts. You can then check off the parts you want and extract. Now, to get back to your original question about part names. What you will need to do is first generate the linked parts. Then go to page view in your score and add a text box. In this text box, put in the text insert that says "Part/Score Name". Now you want to make sure that this text box is hidden in the score (because a box that says "Score" isn't helpful) but displays in the parts. On Windows, I would hold down the Ctrl key, right click on the text box, and choose Hide. I don't know what the Mac equivalents are to Ctrl and right-clicking. The text box will now appear a light orange in the score (meaning unlinked and hidden) and regular orange in the part (meaning unlinked and showing). If you create a new score through the setup, this should be taken care of for you automatically, since the default files that come with 2007 include this text box. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
Many thanks to Aaron and Christopher for their replies to my question. I forgot to mention that I was working from a Finale Default file that I created while using 2K4c. Does this change anything with regard to making parts with instrument labels the default behavior now that I am using 2K7? My default file has no notation in it...it is just an empty score. On 4/4/2009 11:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: When I extract parts in 2K7, I do not see the staff name on the extracted part. For example: Trumpet 1 in Bb Christopher Smith gave you some answers having to do with linked parts, which were introduced in 2007. If you want to go the old-fashioned Extract Parts route, Finale will still generate linked parts automatically behind the scenes; an extracted part is just a linked part snapshot split out into its own file. If you go through the Extract Parts dialog and you only see Score listed, you first need to click the Generate Parts button to get Finale to create the linked parts. You can then check off the parts you want and extract. Now, to get back to your original question about part names. What you will need to do is first generate the linked parts. Then go to page view in your score and add a text box. In this text box, put in the text insert that says "Part/Score Name". Now you want to make sure that this text box is hidden in the score (because a box that says "Score" isn't helpful) but displays in the parts. On Windows, I would hold down the Ctrl key, right click on the text box, and choose Hide. I don't know what the Mac equivalents are to Ctrl and right-clicking. The text box will now appear a light orange in the score (meaning unlinked and hidden) and regular orange in the part (meaning unlinked and showing). If you create a new score through the setup, this should be taken care of for you automatically, since the default files that come with 2007 include this text box. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
On 4/4/2009 11:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: When I extract parts in 2K7, I do not see the staff name on the extracted part. For example: Trumpet 1 in Bb Christopher Smith gave you some answers having to do with linked parts, which were introduced in 2007. If you want to go the old-fashioned Extract Parts route, Finale will still generate linked parts automatically behind the scenes; an extracted part is just a linked part snapshot split out into its own file. If you go through the Extract Parts dialog and you only see Score listed, you first need to click the Generate Parts button to get Finale to create the linked parts. You can then check off the parts you want and extract. Now, to get back to your original question about part names. What you will need to do is first generate the linked parts. Then go to page view in your score and add a text box. In this text box, put in the text insert that says "Part/Score Name". Now you want to make sure that this text box is hidden in the score (because a box that says "Score" isn't helpful) but displays in the parts. On Windows, I would hold down the Ctrl key, right click on the text box, and choose Hide. I don't know what the Mac equivalents are to Ctrl and right-clicking. The text box will now appear a light orange in the score (meaning unlinked and hidden) and regular orange in the part (meaning unlinked and showing). If you create a new score through the setup, this should be taken care of for you automatically, since the default files that come with 2007 include this text box. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
Yeah, they claim the part extraction process is identical in 2007, but it isn't quite. If you created a score with the Setup Wizard in 2007, then all the parts are automatically created. For older files, you have to create them with a command. Go to Document>Manage Parts... and click Generate Parts. This will create a part for each staff or group in the score, with the same name. It will also overwrite any other parts you may have had generated before. You can change the name of the PART afterwards by clicking Edit Part Definition. Careful, because one time I changed the first trumpet STAFF name to Eb trumpet, but neglected to change the PART name afterward, and he ended up getting a part in Eb but called Bb, which didn't work out too well. Christopher On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I recently moved from 2K4c to 2K7 (Mac) When I extract parts in 2K7, I do not see the staff name on the extracted part. For example: Trumpet 1 in Bb Part names on the parts was the default in 2K4. How do I make this the default behavior in 2K7? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
