Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
dc wrote: Fisher, Allen écrit: EPS/PS listings require a PS printer driver. Why? This makes little sense. In any case, it is rather amusing that we used to get this warning when EPS didn't work (even with the PS printer driver). And now that it does seem to work, the indispensable warning is gone... Dennis Thus we can conclude that the manner in which they programmed the display of the warning was the whole reason all along that it didn't work, right? :-) It does make some sense, in that otherwise Finale would have to license PostScript from Adobe and include all the routines for producing PS output internally. By calling on a PS printer driver, it avoids having to license that technology but still gets the data and the routines it needs. Now if they could just put that warning back without disabling the actual PS/EPS output again . . . -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: It does make some sense, in that otherwise Finale would have to license PostScript from Adobe and include all the routines for producing PS output internally. By calling on a PS printer driver, it avoids having to license that technology but still gets the data and the routines it needs. I'm not sure you need to license anything to output a postcript listing. Sibelius produces it's own PS and EPS output without needing a postcript printer driver. Sibelius may have licensed the Postscript routines from Adobe. Or not, I really have no clue, was just thinking out loud. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Title: Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs. Have you checked to see if adding a page size to the pagesizes.txt file has any bearing on that drop down? My guess is that is not going to change anything, but its probably worth a shot. You can learn more about pagesizes.txt in the appendix of the manual. As I said, probably wont work, but it might be worth a try. -Scot Hanna-Weir On 4/27/06 3:06 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:51 PM 4/26/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Dennis, you take the words right out of my mouth! I was ready to cheer, but no, alas.. I'll try the graphics tool. QA with Customer Support. How it has always been. Submission Date: 4/26/2006 12:38:44 PM (Central Standard Time) Submitter: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz Hi, Finale 2006c. Compile Poscript finally works properly in Finale 2006, which I just learned from the Finale listserv. Thank you. However, all my scores are done in a folio format of 9.25437 x 12.16667. The droplist does not include a custom page size, and entering the figures into the height/width boxes has no effect of customizing the compilation. It defaults to whatever size is selected on the droplist (it works with all the sizes on the droplist). Everything is correctly pre-set in the page size and printer settings (the latter set to the special size saved in my Postscript driver profile). This looks like a bug, and now that Compile Postscript finally works (I've been waiting since Finale 2.1!) and produces nice, legible and compact files, I'd like it to work on the size paper I use! (By the way, the EPS function from the graphics menu *does* respect the size.) Many thanks, Dennis Submission Date: 4/27/2006 2:04:05 PM (Central Standard Time) Submitter: Customer Support Agent There is not a custom option in the Compile PostScript Listing dialog box. It will only save using the page sizes available in the dropdown. This is actually how it has always been and is not new to Finale 2006. You may have to export the document as EPS and then convert to PS using a third-party program. I believe that there are several free converters online that you could use. Just search for EPS to PS. I will also submit a feature request that you would like to have the ability to select a custom page size in future versions. Sincerely, Ryan Senior Customer Support Representative ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Scot Hanna-Weir Music Engraver A-R Editions, Inc. Middleton, WI -- www.areditions.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 08:46 AM 4/28/06 -0500, you wrote: Have you checked to see if adding a page size to the pagesizes.txt file has any bearing on that drop down? My guess is that is not going to change anything, but it#8217;s probably worth a shot. You can learn more about pagesizes.txt in the appendix of the manual. As I said, probably won#8217;t work, but it might be worth a try. Good idea, but I had tried that, too. I didn't think it would help because the droplist for Postscript compilation didn't include all of those already included in the pagesizes.txt file. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
We fixed that in 2k6b for windows, I believe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dc Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:38 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz écrit: I will soon. The file I just distilled has both TrueType and Type 1 fonts in it, and so far all characters appear correctly. I only have a few OT fonts, but will put give this a shot. Back in a few minutes Thanks. I've been told that Type 1 fonts don't get embedded (WinXP), not even Maestro. Can anyone confirm? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 06:12 PM 4/28/06 +0200, dc wrote: Fisher, Allen écrit: We fixed that in 2k6b for windows, I believe. I'm told it doesn't work in 2k6c, where the distilling of PS compiled by Finale with Include fonts in listing ticked gives an error message for all the fonts: Maestro PS, and the different OT text fonts. They are ALL replaced with Courier. Exporting EPS is no better. Maybe I wasn't clear the other day. Everything embeds and displays correctly under F2K6c WinXP Pro, except that the Acrobat Reader identifies all the fonts as Type 1. Would anyone be willing to send me a one-page PS file compiled with Finale and Win2K or WinXP, with the Maestro PS font and perhaps other PS or OT fonts? Or an EPS file? I've sent one separately. It appears to work fine. D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
How did Liudas get his sample files (on his web page) so clear and crisp? I see they are done on Windows, and orriginate in Fin2k1. Liudas, how did you do it? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
dc wrote: Thanks, Allen, but I'm told it doesn't work in 2k6c, where the distilling of PS compiled by Finale with Include fonts in listing ticked gives an error message for all the fonts: Maestro PS, and the different OT text fonts. They are ALL replaced with Courier. Exporting EPS is no better. Would anyone be willing to send me a one-page PS file compiled with Finale and Win2K or WinXP, with the Maestro PS font and perhaps other PS or OT fonts? Or an EPS file? Hi Dennis, I can confirm that using Fin2K6c, on WinXP with *only* the PS version of Maestro installed generates a Postscript listing with invalid Type 1 font information. All Type 1 fonts are not found when the PS file is run through Acrobat Distiller (version 7.0.7) and are replaced with Courier. OpenType and TrueType fonts seem to work correctly, although as noted earlier in this thread, they seem to be incorrectly listed as Type 1 fonts. I used a simple example page compiled to postscript with include fonts in listing checked. It uses the Maestro PS font, and text in three different fonts - one PS, one TrueType and one OpenType. I tried to include these files (i.e. the PS and EPS), but the PS listing is almost 500k, and the EPS about the same size (too large for a post to this list without moderator approval). So, I've just included the distilled PDF. If anyone wants to look at the others, feel free to contact me off-list. Hope this helps, Scott postscript_test.PDF Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 01:42 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Scott Amort wrote: I can confirm that using Fin2K6c, on WinXP with *only* the PS version of Maestro installed generates a Postscript listing with invalid Type 1 font information. Not here. Works fine with Maestro Type 1 installed (and TTF uninstalled). I've tried various combos of Win98SE and WinXP Pro with Fin2K6c distilling either PS or EPS with Distiller 3 and Distiller 5. Amazing. Something working fine for me. :) Now if only I could set a custom paper size in Compile Postscript. Anybody recommend an automatic EPS-to-PS combiner for Windows? (the other) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/document-printer/eps-to-ps.html (the only) Kim :) On 4/28/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:42 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Scott Amort wrote:I can confirm that using Fin2K6c, on WinXP with *only* the PS version of Maestro installed generates a Postscript listing with invalid Type 1font information.Not here. Works fine with Maestro Type 1 installed (and TTF uninstalled).I've tried various combos of Win98SE and WinXP Pro with Fin2K6c distilling either PS or EPS with Distiller 3 and Distiller 5.Amazing. Something working fine for me. :)Now if only I could set a custom paper size in Compile Postscript. Anybodyrecommend an automatic EPS-to-PS combiner for Windows? (the other) Dennis___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale-- Kim Patrick ClowThere's really only two types of music: good and bad. ~ Rossini ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 01:42 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Scott Amort wrote: I can confirm that using Fin2K6c, on WinXP with *only* the PS version of Maestro installed generates a Postscript listing with invalid Type 1 font information. Not here. Works fine with Maestro Type 1 installed (and TTF uninstalled). I've tried various combos of Win98SE and WinXP Pro with Fin2K6c distilling either PS or EPS with Distiller 3 and Distiller 5. Interesting. Do other Type 1 fonts also embed correctly? I think I have a copy of Distiller 5 around here somewhere, perhaps I'll try that and see if it is a factor. If you don't mind, could you send me a one-page ps or eps that works for you so I can test to see if it is a distillation problem instead of a generation one? Thanks, Scott ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 02:40 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/document-printer/eps-to-ps.html Back to step #1. Just like Finale, it doesn't respect the page size in the EPS. There are no custom options in the setup, so no way to set the correct page size. :( Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 02:44 PM 4/28/06 -0400, you wrote: If you don't mind, could you send me a one-page ps or eps that works for you so I can test to see if it is a distillation problem instead of a generation one? Attached PS/PDF, EPS/PDF. Hi Dennis ( the other one :-) ), I think what is happening here is that you created your postscript listing/eps while you had the TrueType version of Maestro installed. Did you remove the TrueType version before or after you compiled the listing? If after, can you try uninstalling the TrueType version, then installing the PS version - then open up Finale, compile the postscript version and distill it. A few experiments here seem to show that if you compile the postscript listing with the TrueType font installed, it will correctly reference either the TrueType or PS version later on, depending upon which one is installed on your system (although the character mappings seem to be a bit off with the PS version, there is a problem with noteheads). However, if you compile it with the PS version installed, it will incorrectly reference either version. I suspect the problem is that the PS listing is mangling the PS font name. Distiller gives me errors like MSTT33456 not found, using Courier. Scott ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 03:55 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Scott Amort wrote: I think what is happening here is that you created your postscript listing/eps while you had the TrueType version of Maestro installed. Did you remove the TrueType version before or after you compiled the listing? I removed it before. Moved it completely off the machine for the duration. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I removed it before. Moved it completely off the machine for the duration. I think I have solved the problem. Do you have a PostScript printer as your default? I do not. Finale seems to rely on the default printer driver to compile the PS listing. Once I switched mine to a PS driver, both the PS listing and EPS output worked perfectly. Under my regular printer, which uses PCL6, I get mangled Type 1 font names. Scott ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Scott is correct. EPS/PS listings require a PS printer driver. I'm surprised you didn't get warned. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Amort Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:33 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I removed it before. Moved it completely off the machine for the duration. I think I have solved the problem. Do you have a PostScript printer as your default? I do not. Finale seems to rely on the default printer driver to compile the PS listing. Once I switched mine to a PS driver, both the PS listing and EPS output worked perfectly. Under my regular printer, which uses PCL6, I get mangled Type 1 font names. Scott ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:32 PM 4/28/06 -0400, Scott Amort wrote: I think I have solved the problem. Do you have a PostScript printer as your default? I do not. Finale seems to rely on the default printer driver to compile the PS listing. Once I switched mine to a PS driver, both the PS listing and EPS output worked perfectly. Under my regular printer, which uses PCL6, I get mangled Type 1 font names. Well sussed! Yes, I always set the printer to a Postscript one in the page setup before running Finale, because it has my 9.2x12.2 page profile. As soon as I changed it to a non-Postscript printer, it wouldn't distill with Postscript fonts. I swapped it back to a Postscript printer, it worked again. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:19 PM 4/28/06 -0500, Fisher, Allen wrote: Scott is correct. EPS/PS listings require a PS printer driver. I'm surprised you didn't get warned. I always use a Postscript driver because of my special paper sizes, which requires me to print to file and distill to PDF. The discussion was about Postscript compilation, which now works properly in Windows. Scott was having trouble, and I think (the primary) Dennis was, too -- but only with Postscript fonts in the compilation. Since it's a require component, it does seem strange that Finale doesn't simply detect and load a Postscript drive at the outset of their compilation process -- or at least provide a warning that it needs to be loaded. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Amort Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:33 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I removed it before. Moved it completely off the machine for the duration. I think I have solved the problem. Do you have a PostScript printer as your default? I do not. Finale seems to rely on the default printer driver to compile the PS listing. Once I switched mine to a PS driver, both the PS listing and EPS output worked perfectly. Under my regular printer, which uses PCL6, I get mangled Type 1 font names. Scott -- Please participate in my latest project: http://maltedmedia.com/waam/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:51 PM 4/26/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Dennis, you take the words right out of my mouth! I was ready to cheer, but no, alas.. I'll try the graphics tool. QA with Customer Support. How it has always been. Submission Date: 4/26/2006 12:38:44 PM (Central Standard Time) Submitter: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz Hi, Finale 2006c. Compile Poscript finally works properly in Finale 2006, which I just learned from the Finale listserv. Thank you. However, all my scores are done in a folio format of 9.25437 x 12.16667. The droplist does not include a custom page size, and entering the figures into the height/width boxes has no effect of customizing the compilation. It defaults to whatever size is selected on the droplist (it works with all the sizes on the droplist). Everything is correctly pre-set in the page size and printer settings (the latter set to the special size saved in my Postscript driver profile). This looks like a bug, and now that Compile Postscript finally works (I've been waiting since Finale 2.1!) and produces nice, legible and compact files, I'd like it to work on the size paper I use! (By the way, the EPS function from the graphics menu *does* respect the size.) Many thanks, Dennis Submission Date: 4/27/2006 2:04:05 PM (Central Standard Time) Submitter: Customer Support Agent There is not a custom option in the Compile PostScript Listing dialog box. It will only save using the page sizes available in the dropdown. This is actually how it has always been and is not new to Finale 2006. You may have to export the document as EPS and then convert to PS using a third-party program. I believe that there are several free converters online that you could use. Just search for EPS to PS. I will also submit a feature request that you would like to have the ability to select a custom page size in future versions. Sincerely, Ryan Senior Customer Support Representative ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
I made this PDF a few minutes ago http://www.isalog.info/notur/sumar.pdf , how does that compare?CortezI know someone who uses Sibelius and they sent me a PDF of a file. Instantly the minute the PDF opened on my screen, the quality was noticeably better than any PDF I have created with Finale. Are there some settings that I don't know about to make the absolutely sharpest, clearest PDF possible. Or is something that Finale doesn't handle well? For example online there is this: http://www.utorpheus.com/misc/pagine_musica/tib011.pdf and I've posted a screenshot of my friend's Sibelius PDF at http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample-sib.bmp Here's a sample of my PDF @ http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample.pdf I used the highest setting possible (Printer's quality) and I upped the DPI to 2400. Still not as good as this Molter sample, or the Sibelius. My beams seem very ragged, no matter how much you zoom in. And I noticed that Finale's staff lines seem too thick. And some of the articulations and words have a splotchy look. This is very frustrating for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Kim Patrick Clow ___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
On Apr 26, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I know someone who uses Sibelius and they sent me a PDF of a file. Instantly the minute the PDF opened on my screen, the quality was noticeably better than any PDF I have created with Finale. Are there some settings that I don't know about to make the absolutely sharpest, clearest PDF possible. Or is something that Finale doesn't handle well? For example online there is this: http://www.utorpheus.com/misc/pagine_musica/tib011.pdf and I've posted a screenshot of my friend's Sibelius PDF at http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample-sib.bmp Here's a sample of my PDF @ http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample.pdf I used the highest setting possible (Printer's quality) and I upped the DPI to 2400. Still not as good as this Molter sample, or the Sibelius. My beams seem very ragged, no matter how much you zoom in. And I noticed that Finale's staff lines seem too thick. And some of the articulations and words have a splotchy look. This is very frustrating for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. There are a few inconsistencies here. In your sample.pdf I saw no words or articulations at all, so I couldn't comment. But everything else, including lines, beams, slurs, and bar numbers, stayed nice and smooth right up to the highest zoom, as it should. PDFs are supposed to NOT use bitmaps, which get jaggy at high zoom; they are supposed to use little equations to draw lines and so do not lose resolution no matter how they are resized. I did notice that the stems on flagged eighths seem to have alignment issues with the flag, and you have not corrected Finale's mistreatment of slanted beams so there are little white wedges with staff lines (Patterson Beams plugin corrects this last one) but everything else is fine. Are you sure this is a PDF issue, and not a screen viewing issue on your computer? Compare printouts of your PDF files with printouts of the original Finale file to be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Antialiasing can put little grey borders around curved objects on screen which could account for the splotchy look you mention, but that doesn't print out usually. (One thing that doesn't concern you, but Apple's Preview app shows lines and beams in your file as grey instead of black onscreen. They show up correctly in Adobe Reader 7, so it is obviously a Preview issue. I see this all the time with Finale PDFs viewed in Preview that come from PC computers.) Your friend's sample-sib.bmp IS a bitmap, and so automatically gets jaggy when zoomed. Just on screen, I saw some bad stem-notehead connections and the right-most barline appears badly aligned, though that could be cropping. I would have to see the original PDF to make a proper comparison. The tib011.pdf looks fine - no flag end issues and hardly any slanted beams so I couldn't comment on the wedges. He seems to have set his barlines to be about twice as thick as his stems and staff lines, which doesn't seem to be consistent with publication practice. I don't know as much about this, but I think the usual idea is to have stems thinner than barlines, which are in turn thinner than staff lines by a small amount, though I see a lot of different opinions on this. If you don't like your line thicknesses, they are easy to set in Document OptionsLines. I notice your stems, staff lines and barlines all seem to be set the same, which I think is the Finale default, but they are easy to change. I find good-looking line thickness depends on the size of staff you are using, so I hesitate to offer any exact suggestions since you are almost certainly using different staff heights than I am. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On 26.04.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Here's a sample of my PDF @ http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample.pdf I used the highest setting possible (Printer's quality) and I upped the DPI to 2400. Still not as good as this Molter sample, or the Sibelius. My beams seem very ragged, no matter how much you zoom in. And I noticed that Finale's staff lines seem too thick. And some of the articulations and words have a splotchy look. Which platform. Which Distiller. Which Finale version. How do the PDFs I sent you recently compare? I am pretty sure this is the known FinWin only problem. There has been a lot of discussion about this in the past. I don't know the details, but I was under the impression that Fin2k6 corrected this. The problem has never been reported for Mac PDFs created from Finale, so I would be surprised if the same was true for the PDFs I sent you, but I am interested to hear your opinion. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 04:44 PM 4/26/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am pretty sure this is the known FinWin only problem. There has been a lot of discussion about this in the past. I don't know the details, but I was under the impression that Fin2k6 corrected this. AAHHH! I had *so* given up on this that I never tried Compile Postscript Listing on FinWin2K6 until you said this. It works! [Insert long string of positive expletives here] Thanks for mentioning this fix. Oo oo oo oo ooo. Best news of the week. The month, even. And the display is very nice, not all blotchy and uneven. And the files are small, too. Future beers are on me, Dennis -- Please participate in my latest project: http://maltedmedia.com/waam/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Finale : $600.00 Acrobat:$200.00 Finale's Mailing List : Priceless ;) On 4/26/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:44 PM 4/26/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:I am pretty sure this is the known FinWin only problem. There has been a lot of discussion about this in the past. I don't know the details, butI was under the impression that Fin2k6 corrected this.AAHHH! I had *so* given up on this that I never tried Compile Postscript Listing on FinWin2K6 until you said this. It works![Insert long string of positive expletives here]Thanks for mentioning this fix. Oo oo oo oo ooo. Best news of the week. The month, even. And the display is very nice, not allblotchy and uneven. And the files are small, too.Future beers are on me,Dennis--Please participate in my latest project: http://maltedmedia.com/waam/___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale-- Kim Patrick ClowThere's really only two types of music: good and bad. ~ Rossini ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:21 PM 4/26/06 +0200, you wrote: I'm still on 2K4, but was told that there were still font issues with FinWin2K6. Could you try with the three different types of fonts (TT, PS and OT) and let us know if they are all embedded correctly? I will soon. The file I just distilled has both TrueType and Type 1 fonts in it, and so far all characters appear correctly. I only have a few OT fonts, but will put give this a shot. Back in a few minutes However, there is a problem anyway. Even with the printer set up to the custom paper size, it won't compile to it. I use a very nice 9.25x12.25 template -- but the Compile Postscript Listing dialog box does not respect sizes entered into its page size box. Whatever is selected from the droplist is used, even though the dialog box maintains the sizes for the next score. There is no custom entry in the droplist. I couldn't find either an .ini file or registry entry that determines the sizes in the droplist. :( (However, using the graphics tool for exporting EPS respects the page size. But one it's one page at a time. Can EPS files be combined into a PS file?) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
Dennis, you take the words right out of my mouth! I was ready to cheer, but no, alas.. I'll try the graphics tool. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: However, there is a problem anyway. Even with the printer set up to the custom paper size, it won't compile to it. I use a very nice 9.25x12.25 template -- but the Compile Postscript Listing dialog box does not respect sizes entered into its page size box. Whatever is selected from the droplist is used, even though the dialog box maintains the sizes for the next score. There is no custom entry in the droplist. I couldn't find either an .ini file or registry entry that determines the sizes in the droplist. :( (However, using the graphics tool for exporting EPS respects the page size. But one it's one page at a time. Can EPS files be combined into a PS file?) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:21 PM 4/26/06 +0200, you wrote: I'm still on 2K4, but was told that there were still font issues with FinWin2K6. Could you try with the three different types of fonts (TT, PS and OT) and let us know if they are all embedded correctly? It finished compiling, but OpenType fonts crash the Distilling process. I'm using Distiller 5, but I tried it in Ghostscript and direct print to Adobe PDF generator, and it can't do it either. Error is thrown on the font name. (Keep in mind I'm using Win98SE with Adobe Type Manager -- but OpenType works on other programs such as MSWord when printing to PDF.) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
I used Finale 2005a with Acrobat 6.0 on XP Box. Johannes, your PDF looked fine. There weren't any issues. The quality of it also made me wonder that I was doing something wrong. My apologies too for bring up an issue that may have been discussed earlier. I tend to focus on a narrow band of issues that are a roadblock at the time, and I tend not to pay a lot of attention if it's not something I am working on at that time.I just finally settled most of the other troubles Finale has given me, when I had this trouble with the PDF. So the list's patience is greatly appreciated. Thanks Kim On 4/26/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26.04.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Here's a sample of my PDF @ http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/sample.pdf I used the highest setting possible (Printer's quality) and I upped the DPI to 2400. Still not as good as this Molter sample, or the Sibelius. My beams seem very ragged, no matter how much you zoom in. And I noticed that Finale's staff lines seem too thick. And some of the articulations and words have a splotchy look. Which platform. Which Distiller. Which Finale version.How do the PDFs I sent you recently compare?I am pretty sure this is the known FinWin only problem. There has been alot of discussion about this in the past. I don't know the details, but I was under the impression that Fin2k6 corrected this.The problem has never been reported for Mac PDFs created from Finale, soI would be surprised if the same was true for the PDFs I sent you, but Iam interested to hear your opinion. Johannes--http://www.musikmanufaktur.comhttp://www.camerata-berolinensis.de___ Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Kim Patrick ClowThere's really only two types of music: good and bad. ~ Rossini ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
On 26.04.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: My apologies too for bring up an issue that may have been discussed earlier. I tend to focus on a narrow band of issues that are a roadblock at the time, and I tend not to pay a lot of attention if it's not something I am working on at that time. I just finally settled most of the other troubles Finale has given me, when I had this trouble with the PDF. So the list's patience is greatly appreciated. Not at all. These issues need to be discussed. And if you want to get it fixed you should bombard MakeMusic with problem reports. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale: Sharp and crisp PDFs.
At 05:21 PM 4/26/06 +0200, you wrote: I'm still on 2K4, but was told that there were still font issues with FinWin2K6. Could you try with the three different types of fonts (TT, PS and OT) and let us know if they are all embedded correctly? I just tried this under WinXP. The fonts all embed and distill, but the font properties in the PDF report them all as Type 1 fonts. Dennis (PS: The paper size problem still exists under XP) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
