Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Aug 2005 at 18:14, Barbara Touburg wrote:
> "Phil Daley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > At 8/18/2005 06:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> > 
> >  >> My mistake, it's Windows+U
> >  >
> >  >Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC.
> > 
> > Appears to be a WinXP thing.
>
> It works on my system (Win2000SP3).

Turns out I'd disabled the system service that runs it. I disable a 
lot of system services that are completely unnecessary for my use.

I vaguely remember accidentally starting it in the past, and that's 
perhaps why I disabled the system service for it, just so I wouldn't 
have the annoyance. I doubt it's much of a security risk, which is 
the usual reason I judiciously disable system services.

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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-19 Thread Barbara Touburg
It works on my system (Win2000SP3).


- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Daley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> At 8/18/2005 06:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
>  >> My mistake, it's Windows+U
>  >
>  >Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC.
> 
> Appears to be a WinXP thing.
> 
>  >What is the "Utility manager," in any event? I don't recognize the
>  >term.
> 
> It is a shortcut to the accessibility stuff, the magnifier, the screen 
> reader, etc.
> Phil Daley  < AutoDesk >
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> 
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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-19 Thread Phil Daley

At 8/18/2005 05:05 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>So, I think it's a mistake to divide this list of shortcuts up the
>way it's done, as it tends to suggest that the shortcuts apply in
>circumstances narrower than they actually are. If you have a keyboard
>shortcut that you like in one context, try it somewhere else -- it
>just might work!

Good point.  Tell Microsoft.  That list is from the Windows help file.
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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-19 Thread Phil Daley

At 8/18/2005 06:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>> My mistake, it's Windows+U
>
>Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC.

Appears to be a WinXP thing.

>What is the "Utility manager," in any event? I don't recognize the
>term.

It is a shortcut to the accessibility stuff, the magnifier, the screen 
reader, etc.

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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Aug 2005 at 0:24, Owain Sutton wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> > On 18 Aug 2005 at 22:28, Owain Sutton wrote:
> >>My mistake, it's Windows+U
> > 
> > Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC.
> > 
> > What is the "Utility manager," in any event? I don't recognize the
> > term.
> 
> On my system it gives access to the narrator, an onscreen keyboard and
> a magnifier - and the way the list is presented makes it look like
> other accessibility options can be installed to appear there.

OK, I guess that has to be loaded first in order for the system to 
respond to the command. Either that, or it's something specific to 
WinXP.

There's some keystroke command that turns the screen upside down, 
too. I found out about it when somebody in the office I was working 
in happened to strike those keys accidentally and ended up with an 
upside-down screen. I was able to find the solution by Googling a 
bit. Ah, yes, just checking, it's Ctrl-Alt-Up Arrow, if your video 
card supports it (and it's a toggle -- it just rotates 180 degrees 
more each time you strike it).

I think the only time it's useful would be if you're using a laptop 
with a screen projector, or in a kiosk scenario where for whatever 
reason, the screen has to be upside down.

I notice at NYU they have these announcement boards that are large 
flat screen HDTV monitors turned vertically that happen to be driven 
by what looks like NT 4 -- one time I saw one with the NT 4 desktop, 
squished to be every tall and narrow.

But I digress. . .

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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Aug 2005 at 22:28, Owain Sutton wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> > On 18 Aug 2005 at 20:45, Owain Sutton wrote:
> > 
> >>Three more:
> >>
> >>Windows+R  Run
> >>Windows+F  Find
> >>Windows+N  Utility manager
> > 
> > This latter one means nothing to me. Is that WinXP-specific? It does
> > nothing on my Win2K machine.
> 
> My mistake, it's Windows+U

Well, that does nothing on my Win2K PC.

What is the "Utility manager," in any event? I don't recognize the 
term.

> > To log off, I hit Windows key, then L (you have to have placed the
> > Log Off shortcut on the start menu for this to work).
> 
> Forgot this (although it may be XP-only): Windows+L locks the system
> so the current user is the only one able to log back in

On Win2K or NT 4, that's Ctrl-Alt-Del, then K.

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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Aug 2005 at 20:45, Owain Sutton wrote:

> Three more:
> 
> Windows+R  Run
> Windows+F  Find
> Windows+N  Utility manager

This latter one means nothing to me. Is that WinXP-specific? It does 
nothing on my Win2K machine.

Also, keep in mind that the Start Menu is a *MENU* and you can use 
the Windows key to activate it and then single letter keys to choose 
specific items listed on it. This is one reason I always rename the 
shortcuts for Microsoft's Office programs, since they all start with 
"Microsoft," which makes keyboard activation useless.

For instance, to shut down my computer, I hit Windows key, then U, 
then ENTER.

To log off, I hit Windows key, then L (you have to have placed the 
Log Off shortcut on the start menu for this to work).

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Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Aug 2005 at 8:33, Phil Daley wrote:

> Using "Windows" key
> 
> Minimize all open windows Windows+M
> Bring them back Shift Windows+M
> Reveal the desktop Windows+D
> Bring them back Windows+D again
> Another way to switch programs Windows+Tab Enter use multiple tabs to
> cycle

The traditional method being Alt-Tab. The difference is that Alt-Tab 
uses a separate window to display the icons for the running programs, 
where as Windows-Tab uses the TaskBar. Alt-Tab will show programs 
that don't have a TaskBar icon.

> Using shortcut keys in Windows
> 
> Activate the menu bar in programs F10 

The Alt key by itself does the same thing, which, to me, makes far 
more sense than using F10, since you're going to need Alt to choose 
something from the menu with the keyboard.

> Carry out the corresponding command on the menu ALT+underlined letter in menu 
> Close the current window in Multiple Document Interface (MDI)
>programs. CTRL+F4 
> Close the current window or quit a program ALT+F4
> Copy CTRL+C 
> Cut CTRL+X 

Paste Ctrl-V

> Delete DELETE 
> Display Help on the selected dialog box item F1 
> Display the current window’s system menu ALT+SPACEBAR 
> Display the shortcut menu for the selected item SHIFT+F10

Or the Windows context menu key, the orphan key in the righthand 
shift key row, between the right Windows key and the right Ctrl key.

> Display the Start menu CTRL+ESC 

Or the Windows key by itself.

> Display the system menu for MDI programs ALT+HYPHEN (-) 
> Paste CTRL+V 

Why so out of order for this?

> Switch to the window you last used
> -Or-
> Switch to another window by holding down ALT while repeatedly 
> pressing TAB
> ALT+TAB 
> 
> Undo CTRL+Z 

This is not fully implemented system-wide in Windows, and it's not 
always implemented in every aplplication. But it's worth trying any 
time you want to UNDO something. And I'd add:

Redo Ctrl-Y
OR
Redo SHIFT-Ctrl-Z

> --
> 
> Using Shortcut keys in dialog boxes
> 
> Cancel the current task ESC 

And Escape can be used multiple times to cancel multiple tasks. For 
instance, the reason ESC cancels a dialog box (if it does) is that 
the programmer has set the Cancel or Close button as the default key 
to respond to ESC. So, you could, say, drop down the Look In list, 
and hit ESC to collapse it, and then hit ESC again to close the 
dialog.

> Click a button if the current control is a button
> -Or-
> Select or clear the check box if the current control is a check box
> -Or- 
> Click the option if the current control is an option button 
>SPACEBAR 

Option groups (radio buttons) can also be navigated with the arrow 
keys, once the option group has the focus.

For buttons, the ENTER key may also work as equivalent to the mouse 
click or the SPACEBAR, but in a dialog it may also activate the OK or 
CLOSE button (which may be mapped as the default for the ENTER key). 
This is a confusing aspect of the implementation of Windows dialog 
boxes in which there are really two focus points, the one highlighted 
with the dotted line outline inside the button, and the dark 
highlight around the outside of the 3D area of the button. The former 
shows which button the SPACEBAR command will be sent to, while the 
latter indicates the default button in the dialog, the one that will 
receive the ENTER command. The ENTER key will work on command buttons 
only when no default has been mapped for the ENTER key, something you 
can tell only by looking very carefully at the OK/CLOSE button.

> Click the corresponding command ALT+underlined letter 
> Click the selected button ENTER 

Again, whether or not this will work as expected will depend on the 
context, as outlined in the paragraph above.

> Move backward through options SHIFT+TAB 
> Move backward through tabs CTRL+SHIFT+TAB 
> Move forward through options TAB 
> Move forward through tabs CTRL+TAB 

Note that some versions of the Mozilla browser family have 
implemented this differently. Non-Windows UIs define different 
behaviors for Tab/Ctrl-Tab, and those were implemented in the first 
tabbed versions of Mozilla. Firefox implemented Windows standard 
behavior (as above) from the beginning, because one of the missions 
of the Firefox project was to create a version of Mozilla that was 
very specifically adapted to the UI conventions of the OS on which it 
was running (and they started with the Windows version, in part 
because at the time, the Windows version of Mozilla was quite slow, 
because of the overhead of the XUL layer in which the UI was 
implemented; i.e., it was using non-native UI widgets). After Firefox 
adapted Windows-standard Tab/Ctrl-Tab navigation, the keyboard 
shortcut was folded into the larger Mozilla project. All current 
versions of Mozilla use Tab/Ctrl-Tab for tab navigation.

But this is an area where there is a wide variety of implementations, 
partly because Microsoft over the years has provided many diffe

Re: [Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts

2005-08-18 Thread Owain Sutton



Phil Daley wrote:


FYI:  Here's the list I have:

*Using "Windows" key

* Minimize all open windows  Windows+M
Bring them back   Shift Windows+M
Reveal the desktop   Windows+D
Bring them back  Windows+D again
Another way to switch programs  Windows+Tab Enter  use multiple tabs to 
cycle




Three more:

Windows+R  Run
Windows+F  Find
Windows+N  Utility manager

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