Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
Your posting came through, only I have no helpful answer. Klaus PS: Terrible source to work from! Sendt fra min iPad Den 16/07/2014 kl. 13.41 skrev Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
Robert, thanks, The tediousness comes from the range -- high above the treble clef and far below the bass clef is such a distance on the same stem, and without some kind of method to change the view, there are too many ledger lines in one clef or the other to count. Am I missing something in your description? And how does the caps lock help me here? D On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:48 am, Robert Patterson wrote: I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:23 am, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Your posting came through, only I have no helpful answer. Thank you! PS: Terrible source to work from! Oh, yes. The composer offered to come from NYC to my home in Vermont to sit with me as I enter this because accidentals and other markings are so hard to see as well. Complicating it is damage in my right eye from a cataract operation gone wrong that needs to be fixed. So for now I have one eye to look at the score... D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
Assuming you have a keyboard with a wide enough span, you set caps lock on 3 (16th notes) then play all the chords in one at a time. Then change the 16ths to the correct dotted rhythms. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Robert, thanks, The tediousness comes from the range -- high above the treble clef and far below the bass clef is such a distance on the same stem, and without some kind of method to change the view, there are too many ledger lines in one clef or the other to count. Am I missing something in your description? And how does the caps lock help me here? D On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:48 am, Robert Patterson wrote: I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
Ah, that's it. I use the computer keyboard (mentioned that in my last sentence of the original post). I don't have a music keyboard (and don't play it anyway, so it would take me just as long to figure out what notes to press). D On Wed, July 16, 2014 9:19 am, Robert Patterson wrote: Assuming you have a keyboard with a wide enough span, you set caps lock on 3 (16th notes) then play all the chords in one at a time. Then change the 16ths to the correct dotted rhythms. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Robert, thanks, The tediousness comes from the range -- high above the treble clef and far below the bass clef is such a distance on the same stem, and without some kind of method to change the view, there are too many ledger lines in one clef or the other to count. Am I missing something in your description? And how does the caps lock help me here? D On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:48 am, Robert Patterson wrote: I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
In that case you might find it easier to use transposition with keep original notes checked. Unfortunately it is not a consistent interval from note to note, but you can set up several transposition metatools that might speed up the process if there are some intervals that are more prevalent than others. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Ah, that's it. I use the computer keyboard (mentioned that in my last sentence of the original post). I don't have a music keyboard (and don't play it anyway, so it would take me just as long to figure out what notes to press). D On Wed, July 16, 2014 9:19 am, Robert Patterson wrote: Assuming you have a keyboard with a wide enough span, you set caps lock on 3 (16th notes) then play all the chords in one at a time. Then change the 16ths to the correct dotted rhythms. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Robert, thanks, The tediousness comes from the range -- high above the treble clef and far below the bass clef is such a distance on the same stem, and without some kind of method to change the view, there are too many ledger lines in one clef or the other to count. Am I missing something in your description? And how does the caps lock help me here? D On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:48 am, Robert Patterson wrote: I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
Another option to try is Implode Music, but I have never had much success with it. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: In that case you might find it easier to use transposition with keep original notes checked. Unfortunately it is not a consistent interval from note to note, but you can set up several transposition metatools that might speed up the process if there are some intervals that are more prevalent than others. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Ah, that's it. I use the computer keyboard (mentioned that in my last sentence of the original post). I don't have a music keyboard (and don't play it anyway, so it would take me just as long to figure out what notes to press). D On Wed, July 16, 2014 9:19 am, Robert Patterson wrote: Assuming you have a keyboard with a wide enough span, you set caps lock on 3 (16th notes) then play all the chords in one at a time. Then change the 16ths to the correct dotted rhythms. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Robert, thanks, The tediousness comes from the range -- high above the treble clef and far below the bass clef is such a distance on the same stem, and without some kind of method to change the view, there are too many ledger lines in one clef or the other to count. Am I missing something in your description? And how does the caps lock help me here? D On Wed, July 16, 2014 8:48 am, Robert Patterson wrote: I would enter them all on the top staff using speedy with caps lock. You can then drag the first one using Cross Stave and my Mass Copy plugin will copy the cross staffing from. It seems only slightly tedious to me. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Hi all, My past few posts have gotten no answers, so I'm wondering if they've actually gotten through. Resending this one... I have received a project with some 500 measures of music for multiple keyboards where the stems span staves like this image: http://maltedmedia.com/images/finale/frozen01.jpg Those are all solid stems (and yes, this photocopy is the best quality that I have to work with; the actual pencil original from 40 years ago was lost in a fire). Is there a method or plugin other than entering notes on one staff and dragging to the other with the note mover tool? Because of the ledger lines, the least painful method I can think of is to enter the notes on the treble staff, change that staff to a bass staff and enter those notes, then change back and drag. My usual entry method is Speedy on the computer keyboard. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
yuck. but yeah there seem to be a few recurrent intervals (F#-D), so if this is a consistent thing you might want to set up a model (32nd, for ex.) then copy-paste and adjust durations and add ties. depending on the amount of recurrence, setting your transposition metatools (6-9) may or may not be quicker. looks a lot like sciarrino's perduto in una città d'acqua... sped up. In that case you might find it easier to use transposition with keep original notes checked. Unfortunately it is not a consistent interval from note to note, but you can set up several transposition metatools that might speed up the process if there are some intervals that are more prevalent than others. -- LECTURE-RECITAL: problematics of electroacoustic notation 14-17 aug @ toronto int. EA symposium (canada) http://www.facebook.com/events/484751998312109 shirling neueweise new music notation + translation + arts management mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Resend: Stems spanning staves -- lots of them
On Wed, July 16, 2014 10:15 am, SN jef chippewa wrote: but yeah there seem to be a few recurrent intervals (F#-D), so if this is a consistent thing you might want to set up a model (32nd, for ex.) then copy-paste and adjust durations and add ties. depending on the amount of recurrence, setting your transposition metatools (6-9) may or may not be quicker. Nothing is consistent over the long term. Each part has its own set of presentation problems and musical developments. Thanks -- and to Robert, too (also Implode Music hasn't helpful for me in general). I've got to give an estimate on this so the composer can apply for funds. If there happened to be some really good shortcuts I was missing, then it would be more, um, economical. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
