Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: No. I believe the only way to slash beamed grace notes is to create a slash as a graphic expression and then apply that expression to the various instances of beamed grace notes. It is far easier to use the Smart Shape line tool for this, especially inasmuch as the position and angle of the slash will vary from one group to another. This really is something that Finale ought to provide for. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
A big thank you to all who responded to my questions. I agree that Finale should provide for slashed beamed grace notes. While I have used bothgraphic _expression_ and Smart Shape Tool versions, as suggested, for most occasions _expression_ Toolright or left slash (TNR 36 - 48 points) seemed to work just fine. Sasha Weinstangel From:Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:finale@shsu.eduTo:finale@shsu.eduSubject:Re: [Finale] Urgent advice neededDate:Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:10:37 -0400On Sep 2, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:No. I believe the only way to slash beamed grace notes is to create a slash as a graphic _expression_ and then apply that _expression_ to the various instances of beamed grace notes.It is far easier to use the Smart Shape line tool for this, especially inasmuch as the position and angle of the slash will vary from one group to another.This really is something that Finale ought to provide for.Andrew StillerKallisti Music Presshttp://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/___Finale mailing listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
At 01:46 PM 09/02/2005, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: There is a sudden change in the staff spacing, size of noteheads and a general look of the score from the page 16 and on, and nothing I have tried changing has made much of the difference. I am sure it must be possible to copy the format of one of the previous pages onto the rest of the score for a uniform look, but I can't figure out how to do it. Take a look at Options | Page Format | Score and make sure all settings are the way you want them. Then choose the Page Layout tool and do Page Layout | Redefine Page | All Pages. This will force all pages to have the margins and sizing and so forth as given in Page Format. Note that Page Format lets you specify different margins for the first staff system of the piece, and also different margins for left/right pages, if you choose. Also, I have asked some time ago and have never received a single answer: is it possible to globally slash grouped grace notes, similarly to what is available at OptionsDocument OptionsGrace NotesAlways Slash Flagged Grace Notes? No. I believe the only way to slash beamed grace notes is to create a slash as a graphic expression and then apply that expression to the various instances of beamed grace notes. Of course, you can assign that expression to a metatool, which makes assignment easier. (But be aware that assigning a shape expression with a metatool creates a new copy of the shape, not just a pointer to your original shape, so that you could theoretically have some file bloat if you add hundreds of these slashes.) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
On 2 Sep 2005 at 14:09, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 01:46 PM 09/02/2005, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: Also, I have asked some time ago and have never received a single answer: is it possible to globally slash grouped grace notes, similarly to what is available at OptionsDocument OptionsGrace NotesAlways Slash Flagged Grace Notes? No. I believe the only way to slash beamed grace notes is to create a slash as a graphic expression and then apply that expression to the various instances of beamed grace notes. Of course, you can assign that expression to a metatool, which makes assignment easier. (But be aware that assigning a shape expression with a metatool creates a new copy of the shape, not just a pointer to your original shape, so that you could theoretically have some file bloat if you add hundreds of these slashes.) The only examples I know of slashed groups of grace notes aren't really grace notes at all. The slash is simply the way of drawing the last line of the beam. A slashed 8th-note grace note is actually a way of indicating a 16th-note. So, if that's what the slash means, then you can eliminate it entirely and simply make the grace notes one subdivision smaller than they would be without the slash. Then you're conveying the same musical meaning without duplicating the exact notation. However, this only applies to music up to 1820 or so. After that, it becomes quite murky during the transition to the 19th-century concept of the grace note, which is what has been incorporated into Finale. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
No. Sorry that nobody answered, but you have to put them manually. Le 05-09-02 à 13:46, dr.a.s. weinstangel a écrit : Also, I have asked some time ago and have never received a single answer: is it possible to globally slash grouped grace notes, similarly to what is available at OptionsDocument OptionsGrace NotesAlways Slash Flagged Grace Notes? Éric Dussault Les Productions d'OZ 1367, rue du Cran Saint-Romuald (Québec) Canada G6W 5M7 http://www.productionsdoz.com Tél. 418 834-8384 Fax. 418 834-3522 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Urgent advice needed
While I don't disagree with Aaron Sherber's advice in response to Dr. Weinstangel's comment, in part dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: There is a sudden change in the staff spacing, size of noteheads and a general look of the score from the page 16 and on, and nothing I have tried changing has made much of the difference. I am sure it must be possible to copy the format of one of the previous pages onto the rest of the score for a uniform look, but I can't figure out how to do it. it sounds to me that perhaps the page layout was changed early on, without changing the page layouts, so I'd be inclined first to go to the page just before the page where the layout shows the sudden change, open the page layout tool, and clicking on one of the page margin handles to open the page margin dialog box, this should open the box with the values of the current page. I would select the option page range, and enter the page range from the current one, to a value past the end of the score, and click to apply those. Closing the page margin dialog box, I would select the resize tool, and to the left of a system on the last page with the desired layout, click to open the resize systems dialog box, in which I would select the From ___ to end of score option. Then, returning to the page layout tool, I'd optimize systems if aprropriate. If there is more than one system on the page, I'd select the handle of the second system to open the system margin dialog box, and I'd apply those system margin settings to a range of systems that chosen such that it starts with the selected system, and continues past the end of the score. I'd then select the top system on the last good page, and choosing the adjust current system option, I'd apply that setting to the top system on each page. Also, I have asked some time ago and have never received a single answer: is it possible to globally slash grouped grace notes, similarly to what is available at OptionsDocument OptionsGrace NotesAlways Slash Flagged Grace Notes? I would be deeply grateful for any help offered. Dr.A.S.Weinstangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
