Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Israels
Thank you Erik (and Ryan),

Erik was right - good printer, bad toner cartridge.  I didn't think about that 
possibility, but the mechanical noise was, indeed, from inside the cartridge 
mechanism (sounds like gears not meshing).  Replacing the cartridge put 
everything back in order.  I hope for more years of use from the printer.  I 
like new things, but don't enjoy being forced to buy them.  I can afford to 
replace the toner cartridge!

Thanks again,

Chuck



Chuck Israels
1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
Portland, OR 97209-3162
phone: (503) 926-7952
cell phone: (360) 201-3434
www.chuckisraels.com


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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-18 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So I can collect the fee then for fixing it? ;-)

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On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thank you Erik (and Ryan),

 Erik was right - good printer, bad toner cartridge.  I didn't think about 
 that possibility, but the mechanical noise was, indeed, from inside the 
 cartridge mechanism (sounds like gears not meshing).  Replacing the cartridge 
 put everything back in order.  I hope for more years of use from the printer. 
  I like new things, but don't enjoy being forced to buy them.  I can afford 
 to replace the toner cartridge!

 Thanks again,

 Chuck



 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-3162
 phone: (503) 926-7952
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 www.chuckisraels.com


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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Israels
Sorry, I meant Eric, nor Erik.

Chuck Israels
1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
Portland, OR 97209-3162
phone: (503) 926-7952
cell phone: (360) 201-3434
www.chuckisraels.com

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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-18 Thread Eric Dannewitz
It's ok, the bank will cash checks with either spelling ;-)

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On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Sorry, I meant Eric, nor Erik.

 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-3162
 phone: (503) 926-7952
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 www.chuckisraels.com

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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-18 Thread David Froom

Printer gurus,

My HP 5000 is suddenly making 2 loud clunks each time a page goes  
through (from the external loading tray used for heavy part paper)  
and printing poorly (with a new toner cartridge).  This thing has  
worked well for years.  I can't remember when I bought it, except  
that it was 5 computers ago, so it must be 10 to 15 years!  I will  
try to get it repaired, but am collecting advice.  Is there an  
advantage to the newer 5200 series, should I need to replace this?   
Are there less expensive solutions that handle large format paper  
(11 x 17, or even better, 12 x 18) that still promise reasonable  
reliability?


I have had such good service from this machine, that I have been  
protected from having to think about what to do about a situation  
like this.


Hi Chuck,

I had an HP 5000 that I turned into a kind of 5000n light, with the  
addition of some printer memory and a network card (to provide an  
ethernet port).  I was getting misfeeds and having other problems, and  
read online that the takeup rollers (is that what they are called?)  
needed cleaning or replacing.  It was pretty complicated, and I bent a  
crucial part trying to do it. You have to pull the entire machine  
apart to get to these parts.  They are also famous for going bad after  
a number of years -- what happens is that you no longer can feed  
stacks of sheets, but have to feed things in one page at a time.  So I  
ended up with money spent, time wasted, and a permanently broken  
machine.


I searched online and found that refurbished 5000s and 5000ns are not  
hard to find, and cost in the $250 - $325 range.  I talked with one of  
the technicians who do the work, and he told me that basically every  
part that can wear out is replaced.  I bought a new 5000, and moved  
my memory and network card into it.  It is like having a new machine.   
I've been back in business now for 2-3 years, without the whisper of a  
problem.


Regarding toner cartridges -- I have had very bad luck with anything  
except HPs own cartridges.  The couple of times I tried 3rd party  
ones, they were so bad, I ended up throwing them away after a few days.


My advice:  If you want to save money and like your 5000, just replace  
it with a refurbished one. It is probably cheaper than figuring out  
what is wrong.  You can buy a cleaning kit and disassemble the whole  
thing, but that could take a few hours (and the cleaning kit would  
already be $150-200.  And if you do anything wrong, you could damage  
the thing beyond repair (like I did).


Of course if money is no object, you could go to an oversize high  
speed color laser printer...  Need to play a lot of gigs to get that  
one.


David Froom
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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-17 Thread Eric Dannewitz
The consumables might be cheaper in a newer printer.

Does the drum roll/imagine thong need to be changed? That is the other
thing that generally dies in addition to toner cartridges.

You could have a bad toner as well. Some toners I've bought made those
clicking noises and worked, some didn't.

It would probably be worth it to have someone look at it before
deciding it's dead

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On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Printer gurus,

 My HP 5000 is suddenly making 2 loud clunks each time a page goes through 
 (from the external loading tray used for heavy part paper) and printing 
 poorly (with a new toner cartridge).  This thing has worked well for years.  
 I can't remember when I bought it, except that it was 5 computers ago, so it 
 must be 10 to 15 years!  I will try to get it repaired, but am collecting 
 advice.  Is there an advantage to the newer 5200 series, should I need to 
 replace this?  Are there less expensive solutions that handle large format 
 paper (11 x 17, or even better, 12 x 18) that still promise reasonable 
 reliability?

 I have had such good service from this machine, that I have been protected 
 from having to think about what to do about a situation like this.

 Ideas and advice are welcome.

 Thanks,

 Chuck

 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-3162
 phone: (503) 926-7952
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 www.chuckisraels.com


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Re: [Finale] hp 5000n trouble

2010-11-17 Thread Ryan Beard
The 5200 is pretty fast compared to the 5100 that I use, so I would imagine 
that it's very fast compared to the 5000. That's the biggest advantage, 
probably. 

On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Printer gurus,
 
 My HP 5000 is suddenly making 2 loud clunks each time a page goes through 
 (from the external loading tray used for heavy part paper) and printing 
 poorly (with a new toner cartridge).  This thing has worked well for years.  
 I can't remember when I bought it, except that it was 5 computers ago, so it 
 must be 10 to 15 years!  I will try to get it repaired, but am collecting 
 advice.  Is there an advantage to the newer 5200 series, should I need to 
 replace this?  Are there less expensive solutions that handle large format 
 paper (11 x 17, or even better, 12 x 18) that still promise reasonable 
 reliability?
 
 I have had such good service from this machine, that I have been protected 
 from having to think about what to do about a situation like this.
 
 Ideas and advice are welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chuck
 
 Chuck Israels
 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
 Portland, OR 97209-3162
 phone: (503) 926-7952
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 www.chuckisraels.com
 
 
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