Re: [Fink-beginners] cut and paste

2002-08-14 Thread Oscar Erlandsson

On onsdag, aug 14, 2002, at 19:10 Europe/Stockholm, Blake Meike wrote:

>   Can I coax fink into telling me which dist it is using?  I recently 
> changed to use CVS, which I thought would automatically force me to 
> unstable.  Apparently not.  If I (now) understand correctly, moving to 
> CVS affects only fink itself -- the descriptions of the various 
> distributions -- and not which dist it uses to construct "local".

Check your /sw/etc/fink.conf. The trees line should read:

Trees: local/main unstable/main unstable/crypto stable/main 
stable/crypto

Then you're using unstable.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] cut and paste

2002-08-14 Thread Oscar Erlandsson


On onsdag, aug 14, 2002, at 18:13 Europe/Stockholm, Blake Meike wrote:
>
> Fink is looking for autocutsel- 0.6.tar.gz: the .2 confuses it.  I 
> tried a couple of obvious renaming tricks and none of them seem to 
> work.  I guess I can just install it by hand...
>
That's because you don't have the unstable branch activated.

sudo cp 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/autocutsel-0.6.2-1.info  
/sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo/

will make fink accept and install the 0.6.2 version (which is in 
unstable, and the above command puts it in your local branch). (Also, I 
think this would have made fink find the source, since the .info in 
unstable on closer inspection contains the address I indicated).
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Re: [Fink-beginners] cut and paste

2002-08-14 Thread Alexander Hansen

Have you tried autocutsel?

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 10:13, Blake Meike wrote:
> Hey,
>Is there any way to copy/paste between the XDarwin env and other 
> apps?  I'm running Gnome/Sawfish and it doesn't seem to work...
> 
> Blake Meike
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[Fink-beginners] cut and paste

2002-08-14 Thread Blake Meike

Hey,
   Is there any way to copy/paste between the XDarwin env and other 
apps?  I'm running Gnome/Sawfish and it doesn't seem to work...

Blake Meike


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Re: xinitrc WAS Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-21 Thread Kevin Horton


>Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:30:35 -0400
>Subject: xinitrc WAS Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows
>From: Lloyd D Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: fink-beginners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> The fact that you don't have an .xinitrc puzzles me though -- what 
> does your
> >> setup look like? What windowmanager do you use? (Normally, without an
> >> .xinitrc, X will have trouble starting, especially since the windowmanager
> >> normally is started as the last thing in the rcfile.)
> >
> > Well I simply downloaded XFree86 and installed it. It installed XDarwin 
> 1.1.
> > Then I downloaded the OroborOSX 0.8p2 package and installed that too. I 
> didn't
> > use fink to install them. My test program is Abiword 1.0.1 which I also
> > downloaded and installed without fink.
> >
> > No ~/.xinitrc file is present, however there is a ~/.orobxinitrc file.
> >
> > On my TiBook, I installed XDarwin via fink and there also was no .xinitrc
> > file.
>
>As documented,
>http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/run-xfree86.php#xinitrc
>if no~/.xinitrc then it uses the default copy:
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc
>
>-lloyd
Actually, OroborOSX does not use the .xinitrc file.  It uses its own file 
(whose name escapes me, but it is something like .oroborxinitrc).  I've 
tried modifying this file, but the changes keep getting trashed for some 
reason.  OroborOSX's author does have web forums, so he could probably 
offer suggestions on how to get it to run autocutsel automagically.  See 
http://wrench.et.ic.ac.uk/adrian/software/oroborosx/forums.html

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xinitrc WAS Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-20 Thread Lloyd D Budd

on 2002/05/19 14:52,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 
>> The fact that you don't have an .xinitrc puzzles me though -- what does your
>> setup look like? What windowmanager do you use? (Normally, without an
>> .xinitrc, X will have trouble starting, especially since the windowmanager
>> normally is started as the last thing in the rcfile.)
> 
> Well I simply downloaded XFree86 and installed it. It installed XDarwin 1.1.
> Then I downloaded the OroborOSX 0.8p2 package and installed that too. I didn't
> use fink to install them. My test program is Abiword 1.0.1 which I also
> downloaded and installed without fink.
> 
> No ~/.xinitrc file is present, however there is a ~/.orobxinitrc file.
> 
> On my TiBook, I installed XDarwin via fink and there also was no .xinitrc
> file. 

As documented,
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/run-xfree86.php#xinitrc
if no~/.xinitrc then it uses the default copy:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-19 Thread Frank Schima


"Oscar Erlandsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If you just want to test it, just open an xterm and do 'autocutsel &', that
> should start it for the current X session. 

Yes, I tried this already. It doesn't work for me. 

> Adding it to .xinitrc just makes
> it start automatically, kind of like a login item in OSX.

I know. :^)

> The fact that you don't have an .xinitrc puzzles me though -- what does your
> setup look like? What windowmanager do you use? (Normally, without an
> .xinitrc, X will have trouble starting, especially since the windowmanager
> normally is started as the last thing in the rcfile.)

Well I simply downloaded XFree86 and installed it. It installed XDarwin 1.1. Then I 
downloaded the OroborOSX 0.8p2 package and installed that too. I didn't use fink to 
install them. My test program is Abiword 1.0.1 which I also downloaded and installed 
without fink. 

No ~/.xinitrc file is present, however there is a ~/.orobxinitrc file. 

On my TiBook, I installed XDarwin via fink and there also was no .xinitrc file. 


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-18 Thread Oscar Erlandsson

Frank Schima 02-05-18 09.32:

> So where should I run autocutsel?

If you just want to test it, just open an xterm and do 'autocutsel &', that
should start it for the current X session. Adding it to .xinitrc just makes
it start automatically, kind of like a login item in OSX.

The fact that you don't have an .xinitrc puzzles me though -- what does your
setup look like? What windowmanager do you use? (Normally, without an
.xinitrc, X will have trouble starting, especially since the windowmanager
normally is started as the last thing in the rcfile.)
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-18 Thread Frank Schima


Hi,


>You also need to start the program, and the most convenient way to do that
>would probably be to just invoke it in your ~/.xinitrc -- i.e. add a line
>
>autocutsel &
>
>above the line that starts the wm (e.g. exec wmaker).

I don't seem to have a ~/.xinitrc file. I tried making one with the "autocutsel &" 
line above but that doesn't work. 

I also tried adding it to my ~/.orobxinitrc file but that didn't work for me either. I 
don't see any line in there with "exec wmaker". 

Finally I tried adding it to my /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file right before the "twm" 
command but that too failed to work for me. I had to sudo to edit the file. 

So where should I run autocutsel?


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-17 Thread Zorro

>
>You also need to start the program, and the most convenient way to do that
>would probably be to just invoke it in your ~/.xinitrc -- i.e. add a line
>
>autocutsel &
>
>above the line that starts the wm (e.g. exec wmaker).



Doesn't work, at least on my mac.
However,  adding xcutsel in the prescribed manner does.
I suppose your mileage may vary, although, in theory,
a mile is just a mile..(or kilometer, whatever is norm...)
And for 1 button mice (is the plural still mice?) see your XDarwin prefs for emulation.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-17 Thread Gérard Degrez

>At 11:54 -0500 2002/05/15, Chia Hung wrote:
>>I don't think that one can copy and paste between Aqua and X Windows. I know
>>that many of us would like to be able to do so.
>
>From Xwindows to Aqua is no problem; from Aqua to Xwindows works
>fine to an xterm (option-click pastes), but not to emacs. I find
>that I first have to paste to the xterm, then delete with ctrl-a
>ctrl-k, and then (most of the time...) I can paste into emacs.

With a 3-button mouse:
From Aqua, select & copy, then in XWindows click the middle button.
Works (at least with xedit), except the linebreaks which have to be
edited.
From XWindows to Aqua, just the opposite: select, click on middle
button, then go to Aqua and paste with Command-V

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-17 Thread Oscar Erlandsson

Frank Schima 02-05-16 21.47:

>> fink install autocutsel
> 
> 
> Thanks for the pointer. However, I did this and it still doesn't work for me.
> Did I do something wrong?
> 
> Here's what it says when I run that:
> 
> ---
> [localhost:~] frank% fink install autocutsel
> sudo /sw/bin/fink install autocutsel
> Password:
> Reading package info...
> Information about 506 packages read in 6 seconds.
> pkg autocutsel  version ###
> pkg autocutsel  version 0.2-3
> No packages to install.
> ---

You also need to start the program, and the most convenient way to do that
would probably be to just invoke it in your ~/.xinitrc -- i.e. add a line

autocutsel &

above the line that starts the wm (e.g. exec wmaker).
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-16 Thread Zorro

At 7:47 PM + 5/16/02, Frank Schima wrote:
>--- "Chris Zubrzycki" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > fink install autocutsel
>
>Chris is right.



>Thanks for the pointer. However, I did this and it still doesn't work for me. Did I 
>do something wrong?

No

I'm not sure what to tell you about *fink selfupdate-cvs*.
According to the faq:
Updating the Package Descriptions

In the past this was a bit tedious procedure; but in the current Fink versions, this 
is a very simple procedure. Just issue this command:

fink selfupdate-cvs
If that's not giving you the latest versions (via *fink list*)
then that's another problem.
As far as autocutsel goes...on my mac I must invoke *xcutsel*
in an xterm. Autocutsel doesn't work.
 A window comes open with *quit* at the top and
*copy PRIMARY to O*
and
*copy O to PRIMARY*
Primary being the OS X's clipboard.
Frankly, according to the info I have read, I see no *merging* of clipboards at all.
In fact, according to fink info, adding autocutsel& , to your xintrc
does nothing.
I'm sure I am missing something...oh,well.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-16 Thread Frank Schima

--- "Chris Zubrzycki" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot 
> > seem to paste text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a 
> > normal Aqua app like BBedit.
> >
> > Running XFree86 with OroborosX rootless.
> 
> fink install autocutsel


Thanks for the pointer. However, I did this and it still doesn't work for me. Did I do 
something wrong?

Here's what it says when I run that:

---
[localhost:~] frank% fink install autocutsel
sudo /sw/bin/fink install autocutsel
Password:
Reading package info...
Information about 506 packages read in 6 seconds.
pkg autocutsel  version ###
pkg autocutsel  version 0.2-3
No packages to install.
---



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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-16 Thread Alexander Hansen

Under emacs 21 can use the emacs Paste command
(Control-Y) to paste in text that you've copied from Aqua.
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On Thu, 16 May 2002, Victor Eijkhout wrote:

> >
> >So: Without autocutsel, cut&paste between Aqua and X11 works for some
> >X11 clients, not for others. With autocutsel, it always works (famous
> >last words :-)).
>
> fink install autocutsel
>
> but I can still not paste in emacs. Option-click works fine in xterm,
> but it did that before I installed autocutsel.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-16 Thread Victor Eijkhout

>
>So: Without autocutsel, cut&paste between Aqua and X11 works for some
>X11 clients, not for others. With autocutsel, it always works (famous
>last words :-)).

fink install autocutsel

but I can still not paste in emacs. Option-click works fine in xterm, 
but it did that before I installed autocutsel.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-16 Thread Martin Costabel

Roger Fischer wrote:

> I've had no problems doing a command-c to copy in aqua, and then a
> command-c in X11 to paste.  But I admit I haven't used a ton of X11 apps.
 
> > I don't think that one can copy and paste between Aqua and X Windows. I know
> > that many of us would like to be able to do so.

> > > Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot seem to
> > > paste text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a normal Aqua app
> > > like BBedit.

Maybe Chris should have elaborated a bit:

In X11, there are two cut buffers. Only one of them works with cutting
and pasting from and to Aqua. Some applications, like xterm, use this
one, some, like AbiWord, the other one. The autocutsel utility unifies
the two cut buffers.

You can see such a behavior sometimes even inside X11, for example on
Solaris where you cannot cut&paste between xterm and mailtool (an
openwindows application). I've hated this for years.

So: Without autocutsel, cut&paste between Aqua and X11 works for some
X11 clients, not for others. With autocutsel, it always works (famous
last words :-)).

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-15 Thread Roger Fischer


I haven't had problems cutting & pasting between Aqua and X Windows.
In Aqua I use command-c and command-v to cut and paste.
In X11 I use the mouse and select to copy and click the middle button to
paste.  (command-click is equivalent to the middle button on a 3 button
mouse).

I've had no problems doing a command-c to copy in aqua, and then a
command-c in X11 to paste.  But I admit I haven't used a ton of X11 apps.

- Roger

On Wed, 15 May 2002, Chia Hung wrote:

> I don't think that one can copy and paste between Aqua and X Windows. I know
> that many of us would like to be able to do so.
> 
> Chia
> 
> On 05/15/02 7:41 AM, "Frank Schima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > This may be off-topic for this list. If so, please direct me to the proper
> > channels.
> > 
> > Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot seem to
> > paste text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a normal Aqua app
> > like BBedit. 
> > 
> > Running XFree86 with OroborosX rootless.
> > 
> > 
> > -Frank
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-15 Thread Victor Eijkhout

At 11:54 -0500 2002/05/15, Chia Hung wrote:
>I don't think that one can copy and paste between Aqua and X Windows. I know
>that many of us would like to be able to do so.

 From Xwindows to Aqua is no problem; from Aqua to Xwindows works fine 
to an xterm (option-click pastes), but not to emacs. I find that I 
first have to paste to the xterm, then delete with ctrl-a ctrl-k, and 
then (most of the time...) I can paste into emacs.
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-15 Thread Chia Hung

I don't think that one can copy and paste between Aqua and X Windows. I know
that many of us would like to be able to do so.

Chia

On 05/15/02 7:41 AM, "Frank Schima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> This may be off-topic for this list. If so, please direct me to the proper
> channels.
> 
> Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot seem to
> paste text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a normal Aqua app
> like BBedit. 
> 
> Running XFree86 with OroborosX rootless.
> 
> 
> -Frank
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Re: [Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Zubrzycki

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On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 08:41 AM, Frank Schima wrote:
> This may be off-topic for this list. If so, please direct me to the 
> proper channels.
>
> Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot 
> seem to paste text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a 
> normal Aqua app like BBedit.
>
> Running XFree86 with OroborosX rootless.

fink install autocutsel

:-)

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[Fink-beginners] Cut and Paste in X Windows

2002-05-15 Thread Frank Schima


This may be off-topic for this list. If so, please direct me to the proper channels.

Anyway, I downloaded AbiWord 1.0.1 and it runs great. However I cannot seem to paste 
text into an Abiword document. The cut text comes from a normal Aqua app like BBedit. 

Running XFree86 with OroborosX rootless. 


-Frank


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[Fink-beginners] Cut and paste in Pan or xchat

2002-03-06 Thread Benjamin S Huang

Hi All,

I've recently used Fink to install pan and xchat. Both are working quite
well, however, I don't seem to be able to copy/paste in them. At first, I
couldn't even copy paste in an xterm, but after looking though the archives
I found out that it works if I use rxvt. However, I haven't been able to
figure out why it doesn't work in the programs I listed. Both programs die
and give me this error when I try to paste into them:


Gdk-ERROR **: file gdkselection.c: line 331 (gdk_string_to_compound_text):
assertion failed: (property.encoding == gdk_atom_intern ("COMPOUND_TEXT",
FALSE) && property.form
at == 8)
aborting...


I am trying to paste by using command-click. Am I doing something wrong? Is
this perhaps a known weakness in the gdk port? I looked through the archives
but didn't find anything about this.

Thanks in advance!

-ben


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