Re: [Fink-devel] Should I try and integrate a newer version of mutt in fink?
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:45:09PM -0500, Corey Halpin wrote: > On 2005-08-09, Clemence Magnien wrote: > > when you say you have such a version of mutt, do you refer to the patched > > version? Anyway, if I understand correctly that means you have a working > > mutt.info file for one version or the other. > > I've got an info file for mutt 1.5.9 that uses header caching. > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/fink/experimental/crhalpin/mutt-ssl.info?rev=1.1&view=auto > > > Do you think one of us should try and propose it as an official package > > description? Or should we (I?) try and make all the four versions I > > mentioned above before that? > >Well, I'm not sure what the point would really be of providing more than > -ssl and non-ssl versions of mutt. If people don't want the header > caching, then they can disable it in .muttrc. Or rather, they can not > enable it. :-) My mistake, I misremembered the way I installed mutt. I thought that this version only did header caching for mails in /var/spool/mail or something like that, and that you needed to patch it for it to do _IMAP_ header caching. So indeed there is no point to what I said above. > > Or should we wait for an answer from the maintainer? I really don't > > know what is the policy in this kind of situation. > > Typically if the maintainer is gone AWOL, someone else can adopt the > package. I emailed the maintainer on 6/19/05, and have yet to get a > response. Has anyone else on the list heard from Christian Swinehart > recently? > > fink-core: if not, should we consider mutt orphaned? > If so, I'd be willing to adopt it, provided nobody else wants it. My own email to then maintainer dates from june, 5, 2005. As I said, I'd be willing but not wanting since I fear I would be incompetent. Cheers, Clemence > > crh -- Ce qui se concoit bien s'exprime clairement. - http://www.crea.polytechnique.fr/personnels/fiches/magnien.htm 01 55 55 86 27 --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Should I try and integrate a newer version of mutt in fink?
On 2005-08-09, Daniel Macks wrote: > How do these efforts complement or overlap with the muttng package > loitering in the submissions queue: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=17203&atid=414256&func=detail&aid=1227723 This .info is for the mutt from mutt.org, not from the forked version at http://mutt-ng.berlios.de/. So I don't think there's a lot of overlap, since these are distinct (but related) programs. I'd think that it would be worthwhile for fink to provide a more recent version of the mutt.org mutt as well as mutt-ng. At least until mutt-ng Takes Over The World. crh pgpaCnEVYipNS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fink-devel] Should I try and integrate a newer version of mutt in fink?
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:45:09PM -0500, Corey Halpin wrote: > On 2005-08-09, Clemence Magnien wrote: > > when you say you have such a version of mutt, do you refer to the patched > > version? Anyway, if I understand correctly that means you have a working > > mutt.info file for one version or the other. > > I've got an info file for mutt 1.5.9 that uses header caching. > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/fink/experimental/crhalpin/mutt-ssl.info?rev=1.1&view=auto How do these efforts complement or overlap with the muttng package loitering in the submissions queue: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=17203&atid=414256&func=detail&aid=1227723 dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #2019 - 3 msgs
zsh 4.2.5-11 is still broken because of this, BTW. >1. Re: zsh for 10.4 (Daniel E. Macks) > Message: 1 > To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > From: "Daniel E. Macks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 03:10:46 + (UTC) > Subject: [Fink-devel] Re: zsh for 10.4 > > Peter O'Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > poll() did not exist on Mac OS X 10.2 and earlier, on 10.3 it was > > implemented in an emulation library and implemented in terms of select(), > > with Mac OS X 10.4 we finally got a real poll(), but it unfortunately has > > some bugs which make it difficult to use. If they want to change their > > configure, I'd suggest ignoring poll() on darwin totally. > > I just added a chapter about 10.4 to Fink's porting page, including a > note about this bug (and also some other 10.3/10.4 differences). > Pogma (or anyone) feel free to add more things to that doc. > > dan > > -- > Daniel Macks > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Should I try and integrate a newer version of mutt in fink?
On 2005-08-09, Clemence Magnien wrote: > when you say you have such a version of mutt, do you refer to the patched > version? Anyway, if I understand correctly that means you have a working > mutt.info file for one version or the other. I've got an info file for mutt 1.5.9 that uses header caching. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/fink/experimental/crhalpin/mutt-ssl.info?rev=1.1&view=auto > Do you think one of us should try and propose it as an official package > description? Or should we (I?) try and make all the four versions I > mentioned above before that? Well, I'm not sure what the point would really be of providing more than -ssl and non-ssl versions of mutt. If people don't want the header caching, then they can disable it in .muttrc. Or rather, they can not enable it. :-) > Or should we wait for an answer from the maintainer? I really don't > know what is the policy in this kind of situation. Typically if the maintainer is gone AWOL, someone else can adopt the package. I emailed the maintainer on 6/19/05, and have yet to get a response. Has anyone else on the list heard from Christian Swinehart recently? fink-core: if not, should we consider mutt orphaned? If so, I'd be willing to adopt it, provided nobody else wants it. crh pgpN76xcAqfug.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Fink-devel] Procedure for creating a new daemon user?
Hi, I would like to package up icecast2 to run under its own UID, but I can't seem to find anything in the packaging manual about how I ought to install a new user. I poked around a few existing packages but the ones I found seem to have their users included in the core passwd-fink file. Is there any other approach? I was tempted to just add an entry in the 300+ range, but that's probably not 100% kosher. Thanks, -b --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Should I try and integrate a newer version of mutt in fink?
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 10:20:21AM -0500, Corey Halpin wrote: > On 2005-08-06, Clemence Magnien wrote: > > So, what is your advice? Should I try to do it or not? > > I think the first point is not that important, since there are > > probably tons of other new functionalities that work very well, > > but I'm more concerned with the second. > > > > If you do think I should try, I have another question: the version > > I use is patched so that it does header caching for IMAP mailbox. > > What should I do about this? Integrate the patch in the package, > > or not integrate it, or make two versions, one with and one without > > the patch? (with ssl and non-ssl versions of each...). > > I have such a version of mutt in my experimental. It might be a good > starting point. :-) > I also emailed the mutt maintainer and didn't get any response. Hi, when you say you have such a version of mutt, do you refer to the patched version? Anyway, if I understand correctly that means you have a working mutt.info file for one version or the other. Do you think one of us should try and propose it as an official package description? Or should we (I?) try and make all the four versions I mentioned above before that? Or should we wait for an answer from the maintainer? I really don't know what is the policy in this kind of situation. Cheers, Clemence -- Ce qui se concoit bien s'exprime clairement. - http://www.crea.polytechnique.fr/personnels/fiches/magnien.htm 01 55 55 86 27 --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] 10.4 tree question
On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
Lacking instructions on how to run my own 10.4 tree and therefore
how to find real problems with it,
Martin: I am making some instructions, but will have to wait until SF
finishes their scheduled upgrade of CVS services.
I am at the stage of imagining problems:
Here is what I have found in my experimental version of the 10.4 tree.
Concerning C++ code libraries in the future 10.4 tree, IIUC there
will be two non-intersecting subtrees ("T4" and "T3"), the first
one compiled with g++-4.0, the other one with g++-3.3.
Actually, there will be three, since a small handful of programs
still need g++-3.1.
Ideally T3 will be empty, but right now it cannot be, because any
library that is or has to be compiled with g++-3.3 will force
anything linked to it to belong to this subtree.
This is true, up to a point. I have found that in some cases, either
the linking in question doesn't use the c++-library from the
dependent package, or the symbol mangling is apparently *not*
incompatible. So sometimes, a package using g++-3.3 can depend on
some packages which use g++-4.0 (or vice versa).
Since Apple X11 is compiled with gcc-3.3, at least anything linked
with libGLU will belong to T3, and this means among other things
qt3, kde and anything related, probably also xfree86 and xorg.
I've compiled qt3 under g++-4.0, and used this qt3 to compile kde
under g++-3.3, with no apparent problems.
Probably, though, we should use g++-3.3 for xfree86 and xorg so that
fink's versions have the same linker properties as Apple's versions.
Getting more paranoiac, I notice that a lot of libraries in /System/
Library/Frameworks and some in /usr/lib are C++ code, too, so
anything linked to Frameworks will need to be in T3. Example libapt-
pkg.3.2.dylib (C++), linked to CoreFoundation (no C++(?)), linked
to /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib (C++).
I have compiled apt under g++-4.0 with no problems.
My question is: Is it clear how strictly transitive this has to be,
for example does apt have to be built with g++-3.3? Also, if there
exists a binary that is linked to two C++ libraries, one of them in
T3, does this mean the other one has to be in T3, too? Or will this
binary be eliminated from the 10.4 tree, or will we just live with
a certain (hopefully low) level of breakage?
The FSF has told us that libraries may be incompatible, but has not
spelled out the conditions under which the libraries *are*
incompatible. So although the general rules are a good starting
place, I think we can deviate from them when experiments prove that
it is OK to do so.
-- Dave
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