[Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Valknut-aqua has an interesting function that let you create a dmg with the .App and all the needed libraries into dmg, so it'e easy to share among other users. Is there any way to do it with other qt3/qt4-mac Apps compiled in fink? -- Flavio www.flapane.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Alexander Hansen ha scritto: On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Flavio Pane wrote: Valknut-aqua has an interesting function that let you create a dmg with the .App and all the needed libraries into dmg, so it'e easy to share among other users. Is there any way to do it with other qt3/qt4-mac Apps compiled in fink? -- Flavio www.flapane.com In is available in the Fink valknut-aqua package? If so, where is it? That's presumably set up by how the valknut developers have their app bundle build set up--I wouldn't think this is necessarily specific to the QT toolkit. Refer to61 /usr/bin/make -w install-osx-app-bundle in http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/fink/dists/10.4/unstable/main/finkinfo/net/valknut.info?view=markup It created a working independent redistributable dmg for me. I think it would be a nice thing for qt apps built in fink. -- Flavio www.flapane.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Flavio Pane wrote: Vincent Beffara ha scritto: Hi, It created a working independent redistributable dmg for me. I think it would be a nice thing for qt apps built in fink. Do you mean that the whole Qt framework is contained in the app ? That sounds a bit overkill ... /v No, it only embeds the libraries it needs into an .App. Sometimes sharing noob-proof apps to other users is necessary, it would be a step ahead for fink, my 0,02$. -- Flavio www.flapane.com We do build .apps for a number of packages (not just for Qt3), but they're not actually self-contained. If you took your Valknut.app and moved it to a machine that didn't have Fink I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. The .app allows for integration with Aqua and the Finder, but doesn't contain all of the relevant libraries. It can be moved around, but won't work by itself. Here's the output from a script that I wrote that checks what libraries the binaries in an installed package link to.: fink-check-deps.plx valknut-aqua /sw/Applications/Valknut.app/Contents/MacOS/valknut: SYSTEM: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/ A/CoreFoundation dclib0-unified-shlibs: /sw/lib/libdc.0.dylib bzip2-shlibs: /sw/lib/libbz2.1.dylib libxml2-shlibs: /sw/lib/libxml2.2.dylib libiconv: /sw/lib/libiconv.2.dylib qt3mac-shlibs: /sw/lib/qt3mac/lib/libqt-mt.3.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib libpng3-shlibs: /sw/lib/libpng12.0.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib It's certainly possible to build standalone apps, but these do have to contain every library that is needed (other than those which can be safely assumed to exist on the system). It's a tradeoff: with the way Fink does it, you don't install extra copies of libraries, with the penalty being that copying stuff to another system is much more difficult. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Vincent Beffara ha scritto: Hi, It created a working independent redistributable dmg for me. I think it would be a nice thing for qt apps built in fink. Do you mean that the whole Qt framework is contained in the app ? That sounds a bit overkill ... /v No, it only embeds the libraries it needs into an .App. Sometimes sharing noob-proof apps to other users is necessary, it would be a step ahead for fink, my 0,02$. -- Flavio www.flapane.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Alexander Hansen ha scritto: On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Flavio Pane wrote: We do build .apps for a number of packages (not just for Qt3), but they're not actually self-contained. If you took your Valknut.app and moved it to a machine that didn't have Fink I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. The .app allows for integration with Aqua and the Finder, but doesn't contain all of the relevant libraries. It can be moved around, but won't work by itself. Here's the output from a script that I wrote that checks what libraries the binaries in an installed package link to.: fink-check-deps.plx valknut-aqua /sw/Applications/Valknut.app/Contents/MacOS/valknut: SYSTEM: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/ A/CoreFoundation dclib0-unified-shlibs: /sw/lib/libdc.0.dylib bzip2-shlibs: /sw/lib/libbz2.1.dylib libxml2-shlibs: /sw/lib/libxml2.2.dylib libiconv: /sw/lib/libiconv.2.dylib qt3mac-shlibs: /sw/lib/qt3mac/lib/libqt-mt.3.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libresolv.9.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib libpng3-shlibs: /sw/lib/libpng12.0.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib SYSTEM: /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib It's certainly possible to build standalone apps, but these do have to contain every library that is needed (other than those which can be safely assumed to exist on the system). Of course that App still requires libraries, but the App in the standalone dmg is greater (about 15MB), and is consistent with the standalone dmg builds sizes that Hanspeter Niederstrasser did in the past (i.e libqt is IN the .App). Anyway I understood the philosophy, it would be too difficult to extend this hand made valknut feature to all qt-mac apps. Thank you. -- Flavio www.flapane.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
[snipping rest of conversation] I actually helped the Valknut programmer w/ the Makefile so that it would have several targets available for OS X for different purposes. Valknut has the abilities to 1) make (build the binary) 2) make-osx-app-bundle (creates a .app w/ the executable, but it is non-portable with hardcoded library paths. Useful for Fink) 3) make-osx-standalone-app (copies all the libraries that the executable links to so that the resulting .app bundle can de distributed to other macs that don't have a build environment installed) 4) make-osx-disk-image (creates a .dmg from the standalone .app) To answer Flavio's question, these are Valknut specific make targets. Other programs (both qt and non-qt based) could definitely use similar methods (both inside or outside their Makefiles) to create fully contained .apps and .dmg (probably in more efficient ways too). The process is not hard, you just have to check that all non-system (recursively) linked libraries and resources (like pixmaps, translations, etc) are in the .app. Hanspeter - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote: [snipping rest of conversation] I actually helped the Valknut programmer w/ the Makefile so that it would have several targets available for OS X for different purposes. Valknut has the abilities to 1) make (build the binary) 2) make-osx-app-bundle (creates a .app w/ the executable, but it is non-portable with hardcoded library paths. Useful for Fink) 3) make-osx-standalone-app (copies all the libraries that the executable links to so that the resulting .app bundle can de distributed to other macs that don't have a build environment installed) 4) make-osx-disk-image (creates a .dmg from the standalone .app) To answer Flavio's question, these are Valknut specific make targets. Other programs (both qt and non-qt based) could definitely use similar methods (both inside or outside their Makefiles) to create fully contained .apps and .dmg (probably in more efficient ways too). The process is not hard, you just have to check that all non-system (recursively) linked libraries and resources (like pixmaps, translations, etc) are in the .app. Hanspeter OK--that clarifies things. Also, one needs to be sure sure that relative rather than absolute install_names are used for libraries in the .app, I would assume; and not to have hardcoded paths elsewhere, since some binaries encode pathnames in themselves (other than where install_name_tool can manipulate them). - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Hi, It created a working independent redistributable dmg for me. I think it would be a nice thing for qt apps built in fink. Do you mean that the whole Qt framework is contained in the app ? That sounds a bit overkill ... /v -- Vincent Beffara UMPA - ENS-Lyon 46 allée d'Italie 69364 Lyon Cedex 07 Tél : 04 72 72 85 25 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Flavio Pane wrote: Valknut-aqua has an interesting function that let you create a dmg with the .App and all the needed libraries into dmg, so it'e easy to share among other users. Is there any way to do it with other qt3/qt4-mac Apps compiled in fink? -- Flavio www.flapane.com In is available in the Fink valknut-aqua package? If so, where is it? That's presumably set up by how the valknut developers have their app bundle build set up--I wouldn't think this is necessarily specific to the QT toolkit. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Create a redistribuitable .dmg image from a compiled program
Hanspeter Niederstrasser ha scritto: To answer Flavio's question, these are Valknut specific make targets. Other programs (both qt and non-qt based) could definitely use similar methods (both inside or outside their Makefiles) to create fully contained .apps and .dmg (probably in more efficient ways too). The process is not hard, you just have to check that all non-system (recursively) linked libraries and resources (like pixmaps, translations, etc) are in the .app. Thank you. -- Flavio www.flapane.com - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
