RE: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?
And what's in the fink.conf manpage seems pretty clear, too. I din't realize that Ben had posted the relevant snippet because my system stopped taking mail for a while when my mbox got too big--and I didn't search the list archives. I definitely agree that we don't want to update the main docs for features that are still just for the cvs version. -Original Message- From: Ben Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:01 AM To: Alexander K. Hansen; Randal Schwartz; 'David'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability? The location is in 'man fink.conf', by the way - since mirroring is a configure setting. There is nowhere for it to fit in man fink. Additionally, i even pasted that manpage text to the mailing list. Apparently 'reasonable intelligence' according to Randal doesn't include searching list archives, either. (its an advanced skill i guess :) Easier to complain about the efforts of people working for free in their spare time. https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=4294542 Updating the web docs in sync with adding features fink cvs is problematic because we don't want to 'document' things on the web that aren't released yet. We could use branches for that if the doc maintainers wanted to. -Ben On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 10:44 PM, Ben Hines wrote: I requested feedback on these messages - repeatedly. I said I didn't think they were perfect - repeatedly. There was basically no response. Max gave a couple notes. Thus, no complaints or 'I consider myself of reasonable intelligence' snarkiness allowed. The manpages were definitely updated with info on the new mastering setup, but possibly not the web pages. -Ben On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: As one of the people likely to enter this into the docs, I'd like to say that it's not 100% obvious to me, either. I assume it means to switch over to the list of master mirrors, and pick the next one? Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability? On Montag, Juni 2, 2003, at 06:26 Uhr, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was wondering if Retry using next mirror set master is such a David user friendly message. I consider myself of reasonable intelligence, and I haven't the slightest clue yet what it means. Nor would I even know where to go to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( Personally I do think that Fink is very well documented for an Open Source project where no one really likes to write documentation. Since this should be a feature of only unstable I do not expect it to be documented either. All a greater scheme? evil plot? Well no, just part of our effort to create a set of distfile mirrors. I am sure it will be added to the docu asap. - we may race and we may run, but we can not undo what has been done. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?
On Montag, Juni 2, 2003, at 06:26 Uhr, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was wondering if Retry using next mirror set master is such a David user friendly message. I consider myself of reasonable intelligence, and I haven't the slightest clue yet what it means. Nor would I even know where to go to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( Personally I do think that Fink is very well documented for an Open Source project where no one really likes to write documentation. Since this should be a feature of only unstable I do not expect it to be documented either. All a greater scheme? evil plot? Well no, just part of our effort to create a set of distfile mirrors. I am sure it will be added to the docu asap. - we may race and we may run, but we can not undo what has been done. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?
As one of the people likely to enter this into the docs, I'd like to say that it's not 100% obvious to me, either. I assume it means to switch over to the list of master mirrors, and pick the next one? Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability? On Montag, Juni 2, 2003, at 06:26 Uhr, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was wondering if Retry using next mirror set master is such a David user friendly message. I consider myself of reasonable intelligence, and I haven't the slightest clue yet what it means. Nor would I even know where to go to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( Personally I do think that Fink is very well documented for an Open Source project where no one really likes to write documentation. Since this should be a feature of only unstable I do not expect it to be documented either. All a greater scheme? evil plot? Well no, just part of our effort to create a set of distfile mirrors. I am sure it will be added to the docu asap. - we may race and we may run, but we can not undo what has been done. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?
I requested feedback on these messages - repeatedly. I said I didn't think they were perfect - repeatedly. There was basically no response. Max gave a couple notes. Thus, no complaints or 'I consider myself of reasonable intelligence' snarkiness allowed. The manpages were definitely updated with info on the new mastering setup, but possibly not the web pages. -Ben On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: As one of the people likely to enter this into the docs, I'd like to say that it's not 100% obvious to me, either. I assume it means to switch over to the list of master mirrors, and pick the next one? Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability? On Montag, Juni 2, 2003, at 06:26 Uhr, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was wondering if Retry using next mirror set master is such a David user friendly message. I consider myself of reasonable intelligence, and I haven't the slightest clue yet what it means. Nor would I even know where to go to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( Personally I do think that Fink is very well documented for an Open Source project where no one really likes to write documentation. Since this should be a feature of only unstable I do not expect it to be documented either. All a greater scheme? evil plot? Well no, just part of our effort to create a set of distfile mirrors. I am sure it will be added to the docu asap. - we may race and we may run, but we can not undo what has been done. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?
The location is in 'man fink.conf', by the way - since mirroring is a configure setting. There is nowhere for it to fit in man fink. Additionally, i even pasted that manpage text to the mailing list. Apparently 'reasonable intelligence' according to Randal doesn't include searching list archives, either. (its an advanced skill i guess :) Easier to complain about the efforts of people working for free in their spare time. https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=4294542 Updating the web docs in sync with adding features fink cvs is problematic because we don't want to 'document' things on the web that aren't released yet. We could use branches for that if the doc maintainers wanted to. -Ben On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 10:44 PM, Ben Hines wrote: I requested feedback on these messages - repeatedly. I said I didn't think they were perfect - repeatedly. There was basically no response. Max gave a couple notes. Thus, no complaints or 'I consider myself of reasonable intelligence' snarkiness allowed. The manpages were definitely updated with info on the new mastering setup, but possibly not the web pages. -Ben On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: As one of the people likely to enter this into the docs, I'd like to say that it's not 100% obvious to me, either. I assume it means to switch over to the list of master mirrors, and pick the next one? Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability? On Montag, Juni 2, 2003, at 06:26 Uhr, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I was wondering if Retry using next mirror set master is such a David user friendly message. I consider myself of reasonable intelligence, and I haven't the slightest clue yet what it means. Nor would I even know where to go to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( Personally I do think that Fink is very well documented for an Open Source project where no one really likes to write documentation. Since this should be a feature of only unstable I do not expect it to be documented either. All a greater scheme? evil plot? Well no, just part of our effort to create a set of distfile mirrors. I am sure it will be added to the docu asap. - we may race and we may run, but we can not undo what has been done. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel