Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On 2005/05/26, at 4:01, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: On May 25, 2005, at 2:34 PM, kinako wrote: The "build" suffix can be found in /System/Library/Find/StopExts. I'm really not sure that /System/Library/Find is related to Spotlight. I could be wrong though. :-) I found that the excluded directories seem to be hard coded in mds by typing `strings /System/Library/Frameworks//CoreServices.framework/ Versions/A/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mds` . So I am more possible to be wrong, and /System_Library/Find/* are supposed to be relating to old FindByContents. kinako --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 25, 2005, at 3:54 PM, kinako wrote: On May 26, 2005, at 4:41, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: One more thing:Slowing build down also occurs, and I am experiencing, when using ccache if ccache creates new file. Good point, that's another place we have a lot of small files. As far as I know, Spotlight never actually imports the ccache files though. I'm not sure what the performance differences are between Don't know either, but I wonder how hard apple thought about this, with developers building using ccache/distcc. It seems like some regex patterns would help. Or else patch ccache to use .ccache.build :-) No need to patch. Just set the environment variable CCACHE_DIR to ccache.build under fink's build environment. If you want it to be default, you could. not everything that uses ccache is built by fink :-) but yes,the ENV VAR would work too. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 Remember: it's a "Microsoft virus", not an "email virus", a "Microsoft worm", not a "computer worm". -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkKU5UwACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHAMYQCg0bQ9ont6MbSiZvFSxyfAxZ5V B/EAoIOc5ZiO0Bv7HBbWA3hgrle2ot1Z =4XUq -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On May 26, 2005, at 4:41, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: One more thing:Slowing build down also occurs, and I am experiencing, when using ccache if ccache creates new file. Good point, that's another place we have a lot of small files. As far as I know, Spotlight never actually imports the ccache files though. I'm not sure what the performance differences are between Don't know either, but I wonder how hard apple thought about this, with developers building using ccache/distcc. It seems like some regex patterns would help. Or else patch ccache to use .ccache.build :-) No need to patch. Just set the environment variable CCACHE_DIR to ccache.build under fink's build environment. kinako --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 25, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: On May 25, 2005, at 2:34 PM, kinako wrote: The "build" suffix can be found in /System/Library/Find/StopExts. I'm really not sure that /System/Library/Find is related to Spotlight. I could be wrong though. :-) One more thing:Slowing build down also occurs, and I am experiencing, when using ccache if ccache creates new file. Good point, that's another place we have a lot of small files. As far as I know, Spotlight never actually imports the ccache files though. I'm not sure what the performance differences are between Don't know either, but I wonder how hard apple thought about this, with developers building using ccache/distcc. It seems like some regex patterns would help. Or else patch ccache to use .ccache.build :-) - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 "Of course, you realize this means war." - -B. Bunny -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkKU1OMACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHBl+QCfWTAz3YmaGKTHM4iwVRUKNk87 IU4AoIYBLQuHnxpwCEEnP5LGH9/TVXix =LK+6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On May 25, 2005, at 2:34 PM, kinako wrote: The "build" suffix can be found in /System/Library/Find/StopExts. I'm really not sure that /System/Library/Find is related to Spotlight. I could be wrong though. :-) One more thing:Slowing build down also occurs, and I am experiencing, when using ccache if ccache creates new file. Good point, that's another place we have a lot of small files. As far as I know, Spotlight never actually imports the ccache files though. I'm not sure what the performance differences are between 1) Not indexing a directory (eg: /sw/src/fink.build) 2) Indexing, but never importing (ccache) 3) Indexing and importing (/sw/src) Is the difference between 1 and 2 very significant? If so, we should probably hide both ccache and finkinfodb dirs. Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On May 25, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Kinako wrote: Adding sw into /System/Library/Find/SkipFolders might work. In my testing it doesn't. Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On 25 May 2005, at 18:20, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: That's probbably because fink doesn't expect a symlink, but a real dir for the builddir config. Clear. But readlink doesn't exist for nothing.. JF --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 25, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Jean-François Mertens wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 16:50, Daniel Macks wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Jean-François Mertens wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 16:28, Daniel E. Macks wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 04:49, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: If you have a custom build path, Fink will warn you that this might be slowing down your builds, and offer to append .build--if you decline, Fink will never bother you about it again. It's supposed to save state in fink.conf so only root can set it...OTOH, some of those commands run as root. No change to fink.conf even after having made it world-writeable and re-running one of those commands. The writing mechanism appears to check for "being root" not "file writability", but... (Furher, I do run many of those commands as root.) D'oh. Another small point: to get rid of this for the moment, I answered 'yes' once. This added the lines Buildpath: /sw/bld.build Flags: SpotlightWarning in fink.conf, and stopped the questions, but the previous symlink /sw/bld -> /classic/bld is unchanged, as well as its target, and a new directory /sw/bld.build has been created... That's probbably because fink doesn't expect a symlink, but a real dir for the builddir config. It worked as advertised. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 "Sadly, text alone cannot convey the depths of my sarcasm." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) Comment: Please sign reply-http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAkKUpc4ACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHDJGwCg545lA8MjBsP3Bb7bfvVA+Dcj joAAnjStMUPMIs7ckm5Jpn7s8+9TuzBu =RynD -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On 25 May 2005, at 16:50, Daniel Macks wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Jean-François Mertens wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 16:28, Daniel E. Macks wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 04:49, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: If you have a custom build path, Fink will warn you that this might be slowing down your builds, and offer to append .build--if you decline, Fink will never bother you about it again. It's supposed to save state in fink.conf so only root can set it...OTOH, some of those commands run as root. No change to fink.conf even after having made it world-writeable and re-running one of those commands. The writing mechanism appears to check for "being root" not "file writability", but... (Furher, I do run many of those commands as root.) D'oh. Another small point: to get rid of this for the moment, I answered 'yes' once. This added the lines Buildpath: /sw/bld.build Flags: SpotlightWarning in fink.conf, and stopped the questions, but the previous symlink /sw/bld -> /classic/bld is unchanged, as well as its target, and a new directory /sw/bld.build has been created... JF --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt02&alloc_id135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Jean-Fran?ois Mertens wrote: > On 25 May 2005, at 16:28, Daniel E. Macks wrote: > >>On 25 May 2005, at 04:49, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: > >>>If you have a custom build path, Fink will warn you that this might > >>>be slowing down your builds, and offer to append .build--if you > >>>decline, Fink will never bother you about it again. > >It's supposed to save state in fink.conf so only root can set > >it...OTOH, some of those commands run as root. > > No change to fink.conf even after having made it world-writeable > and re-running one of those commands. The writing mechanism appears to check for "being root" not "file writability", but... > (Furher, I do run many of those commands as root.) D'oh. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
On 25 May 2005, at 16:28, Daniel E. Macks wrote: On 25 May 2005, at 04:49, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: If you have a custom build path, Fink will warn you that this might be slowing down your builds, and offer to append .build--if you decline, Fink will never bother you about it again. It's supposed to save state in fink.conf so only root can set it...OTOH, some of those commands run as root. No change to fink.conf even after having made it world-writeable and re-running one of those commands. (Furher, I do run many of those commands as root.) JF --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight
Jean-François Mertens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On 25 May 2005, at 04:49, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: > >> If you have a custom build path, Fink will warn you that this might >> be slowing down your builds, and offer to append .build--if you >> decline, Fink will never bother you about it again. > > I declined _ since I have spotlight turned off _, but I've been asked > this question already > half a dozen times _ at least at every fink index, selfupdate, > list, ... command. It's supposed to save state in fink.conf so only root can set it...OTOH, some of those commands run as root. OT3H, since this is a new feature in a new fink, maybe it should be asked as part of the fink package postinst instead of during a normal fink run. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
