[Fink-users] new gcc 3.3

2003-06-28 Thread Gary Elshaw
If someone has the time i was wondering if they could explain to me 
what the new 3.3 gcc compiler is going to add to the fink/open source 
equation. Are we going to see any improvements in our compiling 
times/performance improvements in the applications we use, an easier 
job for our fink maintainers etc. Or is this release really just for G5 
compatibility?

Cheers,
Gary
At this point, the counter culture I speak of embraces only a strict 
minority of the young and a handful of their adult mentors. It excludes 
our more conservative young, for whom a bit less Social Security and a 
bit more of that old-time religion (plus more police on the beat) would 
be sufficient to make the Great Society a thing of beauty

Theodore Roszak 'The Making of a Counter Culture: Reflections on the 
Technocratic Society  Its Youthful Opposition.' 1968.

OO
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Re: [Fink-users] Cerb-NG

2003-06-28 Thread Martin Costabel
Jeffrey Ellis wrote:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/cerber/

The app is called cerb-NG and is designed specifically for FreeBSD.
This seems to be a freebsd kernel module. It looks rather unlikely that 
you can port such a thing to darwin, not without a lot of work and a 
deep knowledge of the both the freebsd kernel's and the mach kernel's 
inner workings, anyway.

Here's what I get when I try to do the initial make according to the
INSTALL:
[64:~/desktop/cerb-ng] root# make clean all install
Makefile:9: *** missing separator.  Stop.
Probably a gnumake vs bsdmake issue.

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Re: OO setup, was Re: [Fink-users] OpenOffice.organd fink: anygotchas?

2003-06-28 Thread Jonas Steverud
Adrian Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For the record:

 After following the tips suggested by Alexander and Viktor and reading
 the OpenOffice docs here's what I did: For dlcompat:

This thread made me think that I should do the same (is a Fink package
that takes care of this a good idea, i.e. system-openoffice.org.deb?)
but then, how do I uninstall the dlcompat that came with OOo? Is it
as simple as just deleting the files mentioned?

# ls /usr/local/lib
BibTool  libgdraw.1.0.3.dylib  libgdraw.la  libgunicode.dylib
libdl.a  libgdraw.1.dylib  libgunicode.2.0.0.dylib  libgunicode.la
libdl.dylib  libgdraw.dyliblibgunicode.2.dylib

Anyone who knows from where the rest of the files might have come? Are
they available from Fink so I could replace them?

I prefer Fink over having /usr/local full of strange files.

TIA.

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[Fink-users] Installing Debian packages on Fink?

2003-06-28 Thread Jonas Steverud

Something that struk me yesterday was that in Debian there are a lot
of packages that doesn't contain any binaries, like the ispell
dictionaries, and it would be nice if those where available in fink
too. My question now is how much work is it to port these non-binary
packages to Fink in general?

Or can one use dpkg --root=/sw --install
package-directly-from-Debian.deb (or whatever is correct syntax) to
install e.g. a ispell dictionary that isn't already available?

Would the installation scripts in the packages work /in general/?

I am aware that the possibility that there exists packages that have
installation scripts that need some porting is strictly greater then
zero.  :-)

I have no specific package in mind, it's the principle that interests me.

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: msg#2; Unix log?

2003-06-28 Thread dan
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:42:57 -0700,
Jeffrey Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, I got X11 installed, and xterm running. I typed in the xterm -l
 command and another xterm window opened.
 
 However, the man is massive, and when I went to look for logging, it
 didn't seem (or I couldn't find) how to name the file, or open it once
 the logging has occurred...

According to the man page (which certainly is intimidating the first few
hundred times you see it; many pagers and man page viewers have search
capabilities):

   -l  Turn  logging  on.   Normally   logging   is   not
   supported,  due  to  security concerns.  Some ver-
   sions of xterm may have logging enabled.  The log-
   file  is written to the directory from which xterm
   is invoked.  The filename  is  generated,  of  the
   form

XtermLog.XX

   or

Xterm.log.hostname..mm.dd.hh.mm.ss.XX

   depending on how xterm was built.

Looks like security concerns win over logging.  IIRC, too many
passwords and private directory listings end up in the log files, and
there might have been an issue where the log file can be hi-jacked in
its entirety regardless of its permissions.  xterm is a very old
program, written back in the days when functioality was more important
than security.

Fink supports a handful of terminal programs (run fink apropos term;
add rxvt to the list); perhaps one of them will do what you want.

A hint for the truly brave:  I'm sure the logging code is in the xterm
source, it's just a matter of the right configuration to enable it

HTH,
Dan

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Re: [Fink-users] Installing Debian packages on Fink?

2003-06-28 Thread Martin Costabel
Jonas Steverud wrote:

Something that struk me yesterday was that in Debian there are a lot
of packages that doesn't contain any binaries, like the ispell
dictionaries, and it would be nice if those where available in fink
too. My question now is how much work is it to port these non-binary
packages to Fink in general?
Careful here, ispell hash files are binary, and they are 
endian-specific. I don't know if there are other platform-dependent 
details, but a hash file from a i386.deb file certainly won't work on 
the ppc. You would at least need a ppc.deb.

Or can one use dpkg --root=/sw --install
package-directly-from-Debian.deb (or whatever is correct syntax) to
install e.g. a ispell dictionary that isn't already available?
There are more path differences between debian and OSX, for example 
debian puts the ispell *.hash and *.aff into /usr/lib/ispell/, whereas 
fink puts them directly into /sw/lib/.  What you can do is unpack the 
deb file somewhere else (dpkg -x ispell*.deb /tmp/TMP) and copy the 
interesting files over.

Would the installation scripts in the packages work /in general/?
I wouldn't bet on it.

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[Fink-users] removal of programs

2003-06-28 Thread Anthony M. Agelastos
Hello and thank you for your help. My general question pertains to the 
removal of software. Let's assume that I have many things installed 
through FINK; to further this, let's also assume that I switched from 
stable to unstable to install gnucash. In doing this, to install 
gnucash, it must install dozens of dependencies. After going through 
all of this, if it so be decided to remove gnucash, how would one also 
remove the dependencies that it installed for gnucash? Does it do this 
automatically for you? Thanks again.

-Anthony



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Re: [Fink-users] removal of programs

2003-06-28 Thread Alexander Hansen
No, you'll need to remove the packages manually.  One thing you can do  
to help the process is to install the deborphan package, which can  
display library packages that aren't depended on.

Another option, if you use Fink Commander, is to display the gnucash  
.info file, flag all the gnucash dependencies and then  uninstall them.

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 04:26 PM, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:

Hello and thank you for your help. My general question pertains to the  
removal of software. Let's assume that I have many things installed  
through FINK; to further this, let's also assume that I switched from  
stable to unstable to install gnucash. In doing this, to install  
gnucash, it must install dozens of dependencies. After going through  
all of this, if it so be decided to remove gnucash, how would one also  
remove the dependencies that it installed for gnucash? Does it do this  
automatically for you? Thanks again.

-Anthony



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Re: [Fink-users] Re: msg#2; Unix log?

2003-06-28 Thread Corey Halpin

 A question, just so I don't waste my time...If I do get this working, will
 this log UNIX commands and arguments sent by any application? Essentially,
 if lastcomm would log the arguments as well as the commands it would be
 perfect.

  I hope that my interpretation of what you mean by UNIX commands sent by any 
application is incorrect.
  What I think you mean is that applications like the Finder, when you tell them to do 
something they generate a magic UNIX command for what you want and send this command 
into the Terminal.
  If I do understand you correctly, then what you are looking for is futile.  
Applications communicate with the OS at a much lower level than the Terminal (or to be 
more specific, a lower level than the shell running in your terminal).

  As I said, hopefully I'm wrong.

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: msg#2; Unix log?

2003-06-28 Thread Jeffrey Ellis
Hi, Corey--

I'm not sure of where the commands are being sent, but a I said, lastcomm is
catching them all, just minus the arguments.

All My Best,
Jeffrey


on 6/28/03 8:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A question, just so I don't waste my time...If I do get this working, will
 this log UNIX commands and arguments sent by any application? Essentially,
 if lastcomm would log the arguments as well as the commands it would be
 perfect.
 
 I hope that my interpretation of what you mean by UNIX commands sent by any
 application is incorrect.
 What I think you mean is that applications like the Finder, when you tell them
 to do something they generate a magic UNIX command for what you want and
 send this command into the Terminal.
 If I do understand you correctly, then what you are looking for is futile.
 Applications communicate with the OS at a much lower level than the Terminal
 (or to be more specific, a lower level than the shell running in your
 terminal).
 
 As I said, hopefully I'm wrong.



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[Fink-users] Failed to compile deborphan

2003-06-28 Thread Michèle Garoche
When trying to install deborphan, first the checksum is missing:

WARNING: No MD5 specified for Source #1 of package deborphan-1.0-1

Second the getopt.h is missing on my system, so compiling fails:

Making all in src
gcc -DLOCALEDIR=\/sw/share/locale\ 
-DKEEPER_FILE=\/sw/var/lib/deborphan/keep\ 
-DSTATUS_FILE=\/sw/var/lib/dpkg/status\ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../include  
-I/sw/include  -O3 -c deborphan.c
deborphan.c:36: header file 'getopt.h' not found
cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying in 
basic mode
make[1]: *** [deborphan.o] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling deborphan-1.0-1 failed

Can somebody tell me what to do?

Many thanks in advance.
Michèle
http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/
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