Re: [Fink-users] Apple support (was a letter to Apple)
> Just a heads up. I wrote about the effort on the fink-user list. I am > currently preparing a very long mail outlining a strategy to get Apple > more involved with us. This also includes things I have carefully > talked about to our analysts. Chances aren't too bad, that we might end > up with official apple support, therefore I would ask of you that > anyone who wishes to make the effort syncs up with me prior to sending > such a letter out. Not only because I have to check back with the users > but also so we do not speak to different people about different > approaches at Apple. I think Apple support of Mozilla and OpenOffice would be great too. Packaging these things by default with their OS would be a nice way to phase out Micro$oft products. Of course, OpenOffice on Mac needs a fair amount of work before it is production quality (thus suport from Apple would be great). Mozilla is currently quite robust and featureful. I've been using it for months on OSX (and much longer than that on Linux). Since these are not fink packages, but instead run directly on Aqua, I don't know how appropriate it is for fink to be requesting this. That my two cents though. :) Craig W. Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] Opinion Please :)
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 10:05, Gilger.John wrote: > I have a fresh install of Fink and XonX (rootless) on my G4 PowerBook Titanium. > > I would like your opinion/advice regarding which window manager is "best" and why. > > John Window maker is highly configurable (most window managers are), looks nice, and by default doesn't take up too much space on your screen. The menu's are easy to configure, as are all the other preferences. It loads pretty fast too. It's the one I use under OS-X. GNOME/sawfish is ok too, but I've had problems with some of my mouse clicks not reaching the window on top. Instead the clicks were being transported to lower windows, but only on OS-X. I use this combination at work under Red Hat Linux. Fvwm2 is alright too. I used to use it a few years ago, but in my opinion it's too much of a hassle to configure. This may have changed, but I remember editing the text configuration file, tweaking my menus and preferences in very painful ways when I could have been doing something more useful. I remember Enlightenment being real neat, but when I met sawfish my relationship with it ended. Lots of people really like KDE, and for good reason. It's very complete, but I don't like the way it looks. Plus it used to be non-free, and thus not philosophically appealing to me. It doesn't suffer from that any more, but I still don't like the way it looks. TWM comes with virtually every system. It's simple, ugly, and small (in memory). I wouldn't use it unless I was forced to for some reason. It will give you borders around windows, and the ability to move and resize them. Don't expect much more. I hope this little overview helps. If you have time you may want to experiment with a few (Window Maker, GNOME, Enlightenment, and KDE are all very good from a functional perspective), and see what you like. There's a lot of subjectivity in window manager choice, and the mature ones are at least 80% alike in basic functionality (i.e. they all work pretty well). -Craig > > > --- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > ___ > Fink-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- +-+ | Craig W. Wright | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | CoMeT Solutions Inc.| | 11811 Menaul Blvd. NE, #1 | | Albuquerque, NM 87112 USA | | (505) 323-2525 | +-+ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] Ximian Connector campaign (i.e. Exchange w/out MS)
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 19:01, Ben Hines wrote: > At 4:16 PM + 5/14/02, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sorry for leaving out the description and the price, those are key > >ingredients 8-) > > > >Also, if I happen to find more than the magic 500, I would probably also > >try to convince them to offer a reduced price for the OSX version in > >consideration of the fact that they wouldn't be offering support for the > >parent Evolution product on the same platform. But for now, I'm assumnig it > >will be the same price. > > > Hint: submit this story to http://www.macintouch.com/ and get them to > publish it - you will find a whole crop of mac users who want to use > Exchange. In fact, i bet you could find Mac-centric arms of certain > exchange-using companies who might be interested in the product. > > -Ben You might throw it out to the company that produces Omni-Web, The Omni Group (www.omnigroup.com). They seem to be a fairly large mac-centric consulting company. > -- > http://homepage.mac.com/bhines/ > > ___ > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Fink-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] Shi-Sen-Sho?
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 14:04, Tom Dove wrote: > No, Shisen-sho (found the correct spelling) is not the same as > gnome-mahjongg or xmahjongg. The game is not played quite the same as > mahjongg, but is not-too-distantly related. > > My wife just told me that Shisen-Sho is in KDE, not Gnome. Now I suspect > that's the reason it hasn't been ported over, but wonder if it requires > any libraries that are not already on a Fink/XDarwin installation. How > would I find out? Boot up linux and run ldd shisen-sho (or whatever the executable is) This will print out a list of libraries upon which it depends. You can then see if those libraries, or their equivalent are available for fink. -- Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] lost Gnome icons in menu bar
On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 14:16, Max Horn wrote: > At 22:37 Uhr +0200 20.04.2002, Dr Charles-Henri Malbert wrote: > >After fink update for unknown reason I lost the icons in gnome menu bar (the > >bottom one). Similarly, while loading gnome, the window with nice tiny icons > >at the bottom also lost its icons. I still get the name of the menus and if > >I ask for more information on the menu tag, the correct icons are still > >present in the information window. > > > >This is only a cosmetic problem since except that everything is working > >fine. > > You are not telling us what Fink version, or whether you assume the > bindist. I assume you use bindist & Fink 0.4.0, but of course this is > just a guess. In that case do this to fix it: > > sudo apt-get --reinstall -d install gdk-pixbuf-shlibs > sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdk-pixbuf-shlibs > I'm having the same problem except with a source installation. The only things I have installed are the base fink, and the gnome convenience package. Should "fink install gdk-pixbuf-shlibs" work for me, or will I need to do something else? Thanks for the help, -- Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Fink-users] GNUCash
Does anyone know the status of GNUCash? I've been patiently awaiting it, but to no avail. I know that it has lots of dependencies and that may make it difficult to port. Is anyone working on it. I'm a fairly competent programmer and my check book is in a mess after switching from Linux to OSX. I really need GNU Cash. Can anyone give me an update or advise me on how I might begin porting it? Thanks, -- Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] X problem
On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 08:03, Michael Armatys wrote: > Thanks for the response, Erik. twm is pretty basic, > but all the features I described in my original > message were working up until I did the reinstall > yesterday. I'm using twm and the same .xinitrc on > another machine and seeing the expected behavior. The > reason I did all the work on X11 is that twm comes in > one of the two packages (xfree86-rootless I think). Does twm actually exist on your machine? Is it in your path? If you reinstalled X either of these could be the problem if your .xinitrc file is ok. Get a shell and find our where twm is and put the abosoulte path name in your .xinitrc file: something like (/usr/X11R6/bin/twm) -Craig > > --- Erik Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, whoops. Guess you had an .xinitrc. > > I don't think that twm offers a lot in the way of > > window customization, > > though. Resizing and what not... it might be that > > you didn't know it > > but you had a better window manager before. Try > > 'fink install icewm' or > > use dselect and give yourself a better wm, maybe > > that is all that is > > wrong. > > > > I could be wrong, still. > > > > > > Erik > > > > On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 06:37 PM, Michael > > Armatys wrote: > > > > > In my previous post, I failed to mention that I'm > > > using the default twm window manager. I copied > > the > > > xinitrc file from /usr/X11R6/etc/ to ~/.xinitrc > > and > > > modified the last few lines to look like the > > > following: > > > > > >> # start some nice programs > > >> > > >> twm & > > >> #xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 & > > >> xterm -sb -sl 512 -geometry 80x25+0+380 & > > >> xterm -sb -sl 512 -geometry 80x25+550+0 & > > >> xterm -sb -sl 512 -geometry 80x25+550+380 & > > >> exec xterm -sb -sl 512 -geometry 80x25+0+0 -name > > > login > > > > > > --- Michael Armatys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >> In a recent re-installation of fink, > > xfree86-base, > > >> and > > >> xfree86-rootless, I've noticed several changes in > > >> behavior: > > >> > > >> 1) No titlebars on X apps, so I can't move, > > >> minimize, > > >> or resize windows. > > >> 2) Can no longer cut and paste using buttons 1 > > and 2 > > >> (i.e. select text with button 1 and paste with > > >> button > > >> 2) between X apps. > > >> 3) No longer prompted to position window when > > >> starting > > >> a new X app. > > >> > > >> The reason that I had to do the reinstall is that > > I > > >> destroyed my original fink installation while > > trying > > >> to uninstall ghostscript 7 so that I could > > install > > >> ghostscript 6 and teTeX. Uninstalling > > ghostscript 7 > > >> using dselect required removal of many (~191) > > >> dependent packages including dpkg, fink, and > > >> dselect. > > >> I did a complete reinstallation of fink (using > > Fink > > >> 0.3.1 Installer.pkg) and xfree86-base/-rootless > > at > > >> this point and discovered the above behaviour. > > >> > > >> I inititally hunted for a configuration file that > > >> would have turned off the titlebars, etc. No > > luck > > >> there though. Then I tried the following > > >> uninstall/install combinations in order to > > restore > > >> the > > >> default settings: > > >> 1) Uninstall and reinstall xfree86-base & > > >> xfree86-rootless through dselect. > > >> 2) Uninstall all fink apps using dselect, > > reinstall > > >> fink base from Fink 0.3.1 Installer.pkg, and > > >> reinstall > > >> xfree86-base & xfree86-rootless through dselect. > > >> 3) Delete /usr/X11R6, /sw, and all X init files > > in > > >> home directory and perform the installations in > > 1). > > >> 4) Executed "fink reinstall xfree86-base > > >> xfree86-rootless" after performing an > > installation > > >> like that in step 1). This command reinstalled > > >> xfree86-base but not the rootless package because > > a > > >> package description wasn't available for the > > >> rootless > > >> package. > > >> 5) Same process as in step 1), but install > > >> xfree86-server instead of xfree86-rootless. I > > was > > >> unable to get xfree86-server to even launch. I > > >> don't > > >> have more details other than I couldn't get it to > > >> launch. I didn't save the console log. > > >> > > >> I'm using fink version: > > >> Package manager version: 0.9.6a > > >> Distribution version: 0.3.1 > > >> > > >> Package Info: > > >> xfree86-base: free86-base-4.1.0-8 > > >> xfree86-rootless: > > >> xfree86-rootless-4.1.99.20011205-1 > > >> > > >> Software version: > > >> ProductName:Mac OS X > > >> ProductVersion: 10.1.2 > > >> BuildVersion: 5P48 > > >> > > >> I've got a recent installation (20 Jan) of fink > > and > > >> XFree86 (rootless) running on another machine > > >> without > > >> any of these problems. I think I'm running the > > same > > >> version of all relevant apps both machines (X, > > >> xterm, > > >> etc.).Seems like either some files from the > > >> original installation are causing problems or > > >> there's
Re: [Fink-users] Pasting Under X.
On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 03:32, David H. Silber wrote: > Greetings, > > Are other people having problems with pasting under X? > I'm working in rootless mode & using the blackbox-rootless window manager. > I've been starting X from within Aqua. > > I'm able to make the various mouse-button modifiers work for button three, > but not for button 2. I can highlight text just fine, but I cannot paste > via either the button-2 emulation under X or Command-v under Aqua. Copy > and paste work just fine under Aqua. I have a similar problem. I run gnome with sawfish. It's very difficult pasting from an Aqua application to an X application. The way I tend to do it is open an aqua terminal vi tmp.txt paste into that file then open up that same file with a xterm vi session. Quite painful indeed. I can't come up with anything better right now though. As far as button two and pasting between X applications things are fine. I have the standard apple one button mouse. I toggle the middle button by holding the apple key on the keyboard. However, I can't get the right button to work at all under X. :) Maybe the second button works for you like this to paste between X applications. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > David > > > Configuration: > % sw_vers > ProductName:Mac OS X > ProductVersion: 10.1.2 > BuildVersion: 5P48 > > % fink --version > Package manager version: 0.9.7 > Distribution version: 0.3.2a > > % fink info blackbox-rootless > Reading package info... > Information about 288 packages read in 1 seconds. > pkg blackbox-rootless version ### > pkg blackbox-rootless version 0.61.1-1 > > % fink info xfree86-base > Reading package info... > Information about 288 packages read in 1 seconds. > pkg xfree86-base version ### > pkg xfree86-base version 4.1.0-8 > > % fink info xfree86-rootless > Reading package info... > Information about 288 packages read in 1 seconds. > pkg xfree86-rootless version ### > pkg xfree86-rootless version 4.1.99.20011205-1 > > > ___ > Fink-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Fink-users] Cleaning up
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 19:45, Cyril Niklaus wrote:
> Hello all,
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> Just a quick question, is there a preferred way or tool to "clean up"
> one's /sw directory of old tarballs and debs, instead of going through
> all the sub folders and deleting things by hand?
>
> Thanks
> Cyril
>
>
Something like
find /sw -name \*.deb -exec rm -f {} \;
find /sw -name \*.tar.gz -exec rm -f {} \;
Although you may want to try the commands without the -exec portion
first just to see what is there so you don't wipe out things you
want to keep.
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[Fink-users] 3 Button Mice.
Hi, I was curious if anyone out there is successfully using a 3 Button USB mouse when running fink, and what brand(s) of mice seem to work best. Thanks for any help. -Craig signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
