Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[David R. Morrison]

> Where can I find a policy for Fink packages?

http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/packaging/index.php

It's quite complete.

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 06:28  PM, Rogério Brito wrote:


On Jan 21 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:

Rogério Brito wrote:

	BTW, as another question, is there any reason (lack of
	manpower, perhaps) on why the urlview isn't present in fink?


You know, of course, the package request tracker at
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=371315&group_id=17203

There is also a package-submit tracker for the case that you already
prepared a fink package for urlview :-)


	I can make a fink package for urlview (I just compiled it from
	sources and it worked great coupled with mutt) and contribute
	it to the Fink project, but I have a question: how does one
	create a package for Fink?



A package for urlview was made a couple days ago. "selfupdate-cvs" to 
get it.

For docs on  making fink packages, see the fink website, click 
documentation. There is a large packaging manual as well as a 
powerpoint presentation. :)
And look at, for example,
/sw/fink/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/net/urlview-0.9-1.info and
/sw/fink/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/net/urlview-0.9-1.patch

-Ben


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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Rogério Brito]

On Jan 21 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
> > BTW, as another question, is there any reason (lack of
> > manpower, perhaps) on why the urlview isn't present in fink?
> 
> You know, of course, the package request tracker at 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=371315&group_id=17203
> 
> There is also a package-submit tracker for the case that you already 
> prepared a fink package for urlview :-)

I can make a fink package for urlview (I just compiled it from
sources and it worked great coupled with mutt) and contribute
it to the Fink project, but I have a question: how does one
create a package for Fink?

I have some experience with creating Debian packages, but I
see that Fink packages are a different beast as the building
system seems different (and the packages' /sw/share/
directories usually don't contain changelogs etc). Where can I
find a policy for Fink packages?


[]s, Roger...

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Josh Kuperman]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:50:34AM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:
> On Jan 19 2003, Josh Kuperman wrote:
> > This eliminates one problem that was confusing me with Mutt
> > installed by Fink (I'll save worrying about color for another day.)
> 
>   What is the problem you're having with colors and mutt? Just
>   be sure to set your TERM variable to something that supports
>   colors and mutt will show you a world full of colors. :-)

I assume the TERM is OK since if ssh to a remote site and use Mutt
there I have no  problems. As far as I can tell I have all the same
settings, allow ansi and some color selections, at the remote site and
on my home computer. So I either missed a setting in Mutt -- most
likely, if you get colors without a problem, or there is a problem
with mutt detecting a color terminal either because of the fink
installed version or apples X11.



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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Rogério Brito]

On Jan 19 2003, Josh Kuperman wrote:
> This eliminates one problem that was confusing me with Mutt
> installed by Fink (I'll save worrying about color for another day.)

What is the problem you're having with colors and mutt? Just
be sure to set your TERM variable to something that supports
colors and mutt will show you a world full of colors. :-)

IIRC, when I'm using MacOS X, I use my TERM variable set to
xterm-color (or something like that). I'm using mutt-ssl.

BTW, as another question, is there any reason (lack of
manpower, perhaps) on why the urlview isn't present in fink?


[]s, Roger...

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Josh Kuperman]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:40:01PM -0600, Nicholas Riley wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:11:16AM -0500, Josh Kuperman wrote:
> > Url view just extracts and presents all the urls in a list when you
> > hit ctrl-b. It doesn't decide what to do with them. I would love to
> > see Launch an example of a .muttrc using Launch as I'm not quite sure
> > how it would work.
> 
> Sure it does, see man urlview,  The lines people were quoting (REGEXP,
> COMMAND) go into ~/.urlview.

Your absolutely right - urlview parses the urllist out of the email
and opens with the command specified if you have a .urlview file. Of
course this just gives me more programs to configure. I had tried ages
ago to build urlview since for some reason it is not included with
mutt as installed by fink. While ages ago it had problems -- it works
like a charm now. (I guess I should send a copy to the maintainer of
mutt asking that it be added to the mutt in the Fink distribution.)

I tried most of the suggestions and probably messed things up. Urlview
does come with a sample shell script that provides a choice of
programs depending of the environment (Xwindows, terminal, etc). I
still can't get w3m to display usable links in the inline
messages. I'll most likely change things so urlview uses launch to
launch (or display in an already open) Mozilla or Safari.

This eliminates one problem that was confusing me with Mutt installed
by Fink (I'll save worrying about color for another day.)

> 
> > text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput
> > 
> > in my .mailcap
> > 
> > and having
> > 
> > auto_view text/html
> > 
> > in my .muttrc
> 
> This causes the message to be displayed inline.  To get it to display
> in w3m otherwise, do this in .mailcap:
> 
> text/html; w3m -T text/html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; 
>nametemplate=%s.html
> text/html; w3m -T text/html -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; 
>nametemplate=%s.html
> 

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Nicholas Riley]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:11:16AM -0500, Josh Kuperman wrote:
> Url view just extracts and presents all the urls in a list when you
> hit ctrl-b. It doesn't decide what to do with them. I would love to
> see Launch an example of a .muttrc using Launch as I'm not quite sure
> how it would work.

Sure it does, see man urlview,  The lines people were quoting (REGEXP,
COMMAND) go into ~/.urlview.

> I use Mutt with Mac OS X as well as some Linux machines. I tried once
> about a year ago to install urlview on MacO S X; I was unsuccessful. I
> have been viewing html with w3m, a test viewer using a suggestion I
> saw on this list of putting
> 
> text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput
> 
> in my .mailcap
> 
> and having
> 
> auto_view text/html
> 
> in my .muttrc

This causes the message to be displayed inline.  To get it to display
in w3m otherwise, do this in .mailcap:

text/html; w3m -T text/html %s; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; 
nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; w3m -T text/html -dump %s; copiousoutput; description=HTML Text; 
nametemplate=%s.html

That way w3m renders with -dump inline and also will display
fullscreen from the attachment list.  You could replace 'w3m' in the
first line with a script which allowed you to choose a browser.  I
don't run Mutt on OS X so I always use w3m.  On OS X I have a script
which checks whether I'm logged in from the console and uses w3m or
launch (which I wrote, so I guess I'm a bit biased :) alternately.

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Josh Kuperman]

Url view just extracts and presents all the urls in a list when you
hit ctrl-b. It doesn't decide what to do with them. I would love to
see Launch an example of a .muttrc using Launch as I'm not quite sure
how it would work.

Actually, I believe I need to do a major mutt reconfiguration because
now I'm almost alway using it in an X window and never the old
terminal window so all the X apps should be accessible as well as
others. I just start it up with "xterm -fn 12x24 -sb -sl 1000 -e mutt
&"

I use Mutt with Mac OS X as well as some Linux machines. I tried once
about a year ago to install urlview on MacO S X; I was unsuccessful. I
have been viewing html with w3m, a test viewer using a suggestion I
saw on this list of putting
  
text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput

in my .mailcap

and having

auto_view text/html

in my .muttrc

This is adequate to see the html mail before trashing it. I'd prefer
to have html message show up in the list of attachments with the
option of viewing it, in a more recent browser or a different
browser. For whatever reason the links are never quite live with w3m.

I'd also like to get either antiword or OpenOffice linked to handle
the odd word or excel document.And actually I'd like my choice of
browsers since some attachments are really text and w3m or lynx is
easy. And every now and then, say once a month, I get an actually full
blow html message I might want to look at. 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 03:46:42PM +0100, Max Horn wrote:
> At 8:05 Uhr -0500 17.01.2003, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> >Adrian Simmons sez:
[snip]
> >Mutt depends upon urlview to find URLs in a mail message and launch
> >them. Urlview uses a .urlview file to decide what pattern should match
> >an URL and what command should be run to launch it. My .urlview file
> >looks like this on a (non-MacOS) unix system:
> >
> >EXPERT
> >REGEXP ht|f)tp)|https|file|mailto):(//)?[^ >"]*|www.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ 
> >.,;>">]
> >COMMAND remotens '%s'
[snip]
> As an enhancment to this, I would strongly suggest to install the 
> "launch" package which is superior to Apple's "open" command in every 
> regard. To open URLs with it, you can do "launch -l http://bla.com";, 
> so the above COMMAND probably would become
> 
> COMMAND launch -l '%s'

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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Gregory Seidman]

Adrian Simmons sez:
} I've been playing with various e-mail clients recently in particular 
} looking at how the deal with mailing list mail, and am wondering about 
} installing Mutt via fink.
} 
} The only thing that is troubling me is how to have a url in an e-mail 
} open up in an aqua based web browser, say Mozilla for OSX. Is that 
} possible? And what do you do to make it work? (aside from cut and paste!)

Mutt depends upon urlview to find URLs in a mail message and launch
them. Urlview uses a .urlview file to decide what pattern should match
an URL and what command should be run to launch it. My .urlview file
looks like this on a (non-MacOS) unix system:

EXPERT
REGEXP ht|f)tp)|https|file|mailto):(//)?[^ >"]*|www.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ .,;>">]
COMMAND remotens '%s'

I wrote a script named remotens specifically for the purpose (and I
don't remember what EXPERT does), but you will probably find that you
want:

COMMAND open '%s'

...which will cause whatever your default browser is to open the URL.
You may want to wrap it in a script to do something more clever. In the
meantime, man open.

} Adrian
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[Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Adrian Simmons]

I've been playing with various e-mail clients recently in particular 
looking at how the deal with mailing list mail, and am wondering about 
installing Mutt via fink.

The only thing that is troubling me is how to have a url in an e-mail 
open up in an aqua based web browser, say Mozilla for OSX. Is that 
possible? And what do you do to make it work? (aside from cut and paste!)

Adrian



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