Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
After some more tests, I can report that the problem seems to be with gv
and not with the various methods of generating pdf output in landscape
format.
The simplest method does work for any other viewer I've tried apart from
gv:
\documentclass[a4paper,landscape]{slides}
latex
dvips -t landscape
ps2pdf
Note that the ps output looks correct in gv, it is just the pdf output
that does not. And xdvi -paper a4r will view the dvi file correctly.
Stefano's geometry package method works just as well as that single
documentclass-with-options preamble (I wonder if it _is_ exactly the same
underneath?) I didn't test thoroughly with Martin's method (since it
messes up my pages if I change from slides to seminar class).
I am using fink's new (2.0-5) tetex and ghostscript 8.0 and gv 3.5.8-5
(supposedly latest and stable). Since gs correctly produces the pdf
output that works everywhere except in gv, that does suggest that gv is
where the problem lies, but I don't have anything else that uses gs 8.0
to test with.
However, I do have a sun to test on: the following versions of gs, gv do
work there:
Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16)
Copyright (C) 1998 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights
reserved.
gv 3.5.8
And on a linux (Redhat) PC, the following does NOT work (same problem as
on mac):
GNU Ghostscript 6.52 (2001-10-20)
Copyright (C) 2001 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved.
gv 3.5.8
So maybe could be a gs problem (GNU gs cf Aladdin gs) ??
On my mac G4, when displaying the pdf file gv calls gs as follows:
gs -dNOPLATFONTS -sDEVICE=x11alpha -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dSAFER
This is exactly the same as when displaying the ps file.
ps2pdf calls gs thus:
gs -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.2 -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=qrwtest.pdf -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.2 -c .setpdfwrite
-f qrwtest.ps
I'm out of my depth trying to figure out whether those options are to
blame or whether the problem lies elsewhere.
Many thanks to all who've made suggestions!
I'm Ccing the gv maintainer (Jeffrey Whitaker) to make sure the info gets
passed on to him, but since there's a perfectly good workaround (use xpdf)
I'm not expecting replies or action...especially since the linux system
has the same problem, suggesting the cause is not with the fink versions.
cheers,
-- Viv
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Stefano wrote:
Ok, I did the test on the mac and I confirm that using the geometry
package works for me, but I also seem to have problems with fink's gv.
Both the .ps and the .pdf files I get don't show up correctly in gv.
However they are indeed in landscape format. I can visualise the pdf
correctly using xpdf, acrobat reader and preview. The ps shows up in
landscape format in MacGhostViewX.
I am using Gerben Wierda's tetex and I have both fink's and GW's
ghostscript. I think that gv is using fink's version whereas GW's
version should be used by MacGhostViewX.
Stefano
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:43:25 -0800 (PST), Vivien Mary Kendon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[Two replies in one here: Stefano see below]
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:
On lundi, fév 17, 2003, at 14:22 Europe/Paris, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote:
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I think it is not completely out of topic here, because it is an old
problem, and the possible solutions depend heavily on the precise
version of tetex installed.
Oh dear, this is clearly a seriously advanced black art.
And I'm only a beginner in it it would seem...
Your method does not work for me. If I replace my preamble with yours
and
follow your recipe I get a couple of latex errors (it doesn't like the
a4paper option and mutters about magnification), and end up with a pdf
file containing a couple of blank pages, then my slides start on page 3,
but they are about a6 size, correct orientation, with a black box around
them, sitting in the middle left of an a4 portrait page! (At least, I
trust that isn't what you thought I'd get?!)
If I don't replace my preamble, then your landscape_90.ps does nothing,
I get a portrait page with cropped-on-the-right landscape content.
If I use the file /sw/share/ghostscript/8.0/lib/landscap.ps instead of
yours, I get the contents rotated by 90 degrees so it would fit portrait,
but also offset so the bottom edge is in the middle of a portrait a4 page
and cropped on the top (now right) at the edge of an a4 portrait page.
But I get it in a _landscape_ a4 page so it is also cropped on the right
(now bottom) edge! (But maybe I haven't commented/uncommented the right
things in that landscap.ps file yet...I'll work on it.)
Gawd...anyone else want to pile in?
Ahh, Stefano
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I'm on all the latest 2.0-5 tetex, and ghostscript 8.0.
Here's what I'm doing, lets call my document Land.tex:
I'm making slides for a presentation, note the preamble starts
\documentclass[a4paper,landscape]{slides}
I run latex as usual: latex Land
To view it as a dvi, I use the flags
xdvi -paper a4r Land
To convert it to ps I use the flags
dvips -t landscape -o Land.ps Land
This works fine, viewed in gv it comes out upside down until you swap
landscape but that's not a problem.
But dvipdf and ps2pdf don't have a flag for landscape!
I tried using the paper size flags
-dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=842 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=595
and that turns a4 the paper sideways OK, but does not put the images in
the right place on the paper (it is either off to the left with ps2pdf, or
starts off the top of the page with dvipdf). I'm viewing the pdf output
in gv. I've tried a bunch of other things too, and waded through a lot of
the gs docs, but nothing useful came out of it.
Feel free to tell me to shut up and go elsewhere if this is out of place
on this list...
Thanks in advance,
-- Viv
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
On lundi, fév 17, 2003, at 14:22 Europe/Paris, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote:
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I think it is not completely out of topic here, because it is an old
problem, and the possible solutions depend heavily on the precise
version of tetex installed.
I have found a method that works for me, but I don't pretend it is the
most professional one. Here is what I am doing:
Preamble starts:
\documentclass[a4paper]{seminar}
\paperwidth 219mm \paperheight 312mm
\slidewidth 264mm \slideheight 170mm
Then I do latex TEXT.tex, and for dvips I use the following:
dvips -o TEXT.ps -h landscape.ps TEXT.dvi
The essential trick is the little file landscape.ps. It lives in
~/Library/texmf/dvips/misc/ and is actually a symlink to one of two
different files depending on which machine I am.
On the machine with Fink's recent tetex, the slides need to be turned
by 90 degrees, and landscape.ps points to the file landscape_90.ps:
landscape_90.ps %
/_sys_showpage /showpage load def
/showpage {
[{ThisPage} /Rotate 270 /PUT pdfmark
_sys_showpage
}bind def
For earlier versions of tetex, the 270 had to be 90, because they
turned the other way.
On another machine with GW's teTeX, the slides are upside down, and
landscape.ps points to landscape_180.ps which is the following:
landscape_180.ps %
/bop-hook {
gsave clippath pathbbox grestore
4 dict begin
/ury exch def /urx exch def /lly exch def /llx exch def
180 rotate urx neg lly -2 mul ury sub translate
end
} def
%
Then I use ps2pdf without any decorations
ps2pdf13 TEXT.ps
and it works. Don't ask me why :-)
One perpetual problem I am having have with tetex updates (nothing to
do with landscape slides) is that each time the default voffset
changes. After almost every update, my text is either 1 inch too high
or 1 inch too low on the page, and not even the same on different
machines. I got used to edit the O option in the file
~/Library/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps every time.
--
Martin
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
A way of getting the pdf in landscape format is to use the geometry
package in latex with the landscape option, i.e.
\usepackage[a4paper,landscape]{geometry}
Then use your same commands to produce the file Land.ps and then just
ps2pdf Land.ps. This should give Land.pdf in landscape format.
Stefano
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:22:03 -0800 (PST), Vivien Mary Kendon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I'm on all the latest 2.0-5 tetex, and ghostscript 8.0.
Here's what I'm doing, lets call my document Land.tex:
I'm making slides for a presentation, note the preamble starts
\documentclass[a4paper,landscape]{slides}
I run latex as usual: latex Land
To view it as a dvi, I use the flags
xdvi -paper a4r Land
To convert it to ps I use the flags
dvips -t landscape -o Land.ps Land
This works fine, viewed in gv it comes out upside down until you swap
landscape but that's not a problem.
But dvipdf and ps2pdf don't have a flag for landscape!
I tried using the paper size flags
-dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=842 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=595
and that turns a4 the paper sideways OK, but does not put the images in
the right place on the paper (it is either off to the left with ps2pdf,
or
starts off the top of the page with dvipdf). I'm viewing the pdf output
in gv. I've tried a bunch of other things too, and waded through a lot
of
the gs docs, but nothing useful came out of it.
Feel free to tell me to shut up and go elsewhere if this is out of place
on this list...
Thanks in advance,
-- Viv
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - Sent 0.02 seconds ago
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
[Two replies in one here: Stefano see below]
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:
On lundi, fév 17, 2003, at 14:22 Europe/Paris, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote:
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I think it is not completely out of topic here, because it is an old
problem, and the possible solutions depend heavily on the precise
version of tetex installed.
Oh dear, this is clearly a seriously advanced black art.
And I'm only a beginner in it it would seem...
Your method does not work for me. If I replace my preamble with yours and
follow your recipe I get a couple of latex errors (it doesn't like the
a4paper option and mutters about magnification), and end up with a pdf
file containing a couple of blank pages, then my slides start on page 3,
but they are about a6 size, correct orientation, with a black box around
them, sitting in the middle left of an a4 portrait page! (At least, I
trust that isn't what you thought I'd get?!)
If I don't replace my preamble, then your landscape_90.ps does nothing,
I get a portrait page with cropped-on-the-right landscape content.
If I use the file /sw/share/ghostscript/8.0/lib/landscap.ps instead of
yours, I get the contents rotated by 90 degrees so it would fit portrait,
but also offset so the bottom edge is in the middle of a portrait a4 page
and cropped on the top (now right) at the edge of an a4 portrait page.
But I get it in a _landscape_ a4 page so it is also cropped on the right
(now bottom) edge! (But maybe I haven't commented/uncommented the right
things in that landscap.ps file yet...I'll work on it.)
Gawd...anyone else want to pile in?
Ahh, Stefano does:
From: Stefano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A way of getting the pdf in landscape format is to use the geometry
package in latex with the landscape option, i.e.
\usepackage[a4paper,landscape]{geometry}
Then use your same commands to produce the file Land.ps and then just
ps2pdf Land.ps. This should give Land.pdf in landscape format.
Nope, didn't for me. Landscape content, portrait pdf page. Viewed in gv
and in Preview.
BUT, just found out part of the problem is with gv viewing pdf: I tried
one of my earlier tests in Preview and it comes out correctly!! (But is
badly cropped and aligned in gv.) Yeah!! Now I have to figure out
_which_ test that was %*| And test in some more viewers...
Thanks for all your suggestions thus far...I'll report back if I can
figure out any pattern to what seems to work and not work after further
testing.
-- Viv
I have found a method that works for me, but I don't pretend it is the
most professional one. Here is what I am doing:
Preamble starts:
\documentclass[a4paper]{seminar}
\paperwidth 219mm \paperheight 312mm
\slidewidth 264mm \slideheight 170mm
Then I do latex TEXT.tex, and for dvips I use the following:
dvips -o TEXT.ps -h landscape.ps TEXT.dvi
The essential trick is the little file landscape.ps. It lives in
~/Library/texmf/dvips/misc/ and is actually a symlink to one of two
different files depending on which machine I am.
On the machine with Fink's recent tetex, the slides need to be turned
by 90 degrees, and landscape.ps points to the file landscape_90.ps:
landscape_90.ps %
/_sys_showpage /showpage load def
/showpage {
[{ThisPage} /Rotate 270 /PUT pdfmark
_sys_showpage
}bind def
For earlier versions of tetex, the 270 had to be 90, because they
turned the other way.
On another machine with GW's teTeX, the slides are upside down, and
landscape.ps points to landscape_180.ps which is the following:
landscape_180.ps %
/bop-hook {
gsave clippath pathbbox grestore
4 dict begin
/ury exch def /urx exch def /lly exch def /llx exch def
180 rotate urx neg lly -2 mul ury sub translate
end
} def
%
Then I use ps2pdf without any decorations
ps2pdf13 TEXT.ps
and it works. Don't ask me why :-)
One perpetual problem I am having have with tetex updates (nothing to
do with landscape slides) is that each time the default voffset
changes. After almost every update, my text is either 1 inch too high
or 1 inch too low on the page, and not even the same on different
machines. I got used to edit the O option in the file
~/Library/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps every time.
--
Martin
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
Vivien Mary Kendon wrote: [] Your method does not work for me. If I replace my preamble with yours and follow your recipe I get a couple of latex errors (it doesn't like the a4paper option and mutters about magnification), and end up with a pdf Yes, this is where I was too lazy and copied from your message and not from what I actually did: It is not a4paper, but a4 as option to the seminar class. If you want to see some slides I am getting with this method: http://www.maths.univ-rennes1.fr/~costabel/publis/Durham.pdf (Sorry for the size, it is 760kB). -- Martin --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed - landscape pdf problems
Hi,
I can not test it on my mac right now, but I just verified that the
solution I suggested works with tetex on a digital unix machine...
It seems to work at least with the article, slides and seminar document
classes.
What I do is the following. I have in the preamble just
\documentclass{article} (or slides or seminar)
\usepackage[a4paper,landscape]{geometry}
(no landscape option in documentclass).
By the way, geometry is a very nice package, it lets you very easily
modify the page layout with other options or just choose `letterpaper'
instead of `a4paper'.
Then run:
latex file.tex
dvips -t landscape -o file.ps file
ps2pdf file.ps
(for some reason with the seminar class the -t landscape option in dvips
is
not even needed).
The file.pdf I get is in landscape format. Indeed it shows up in portrait
orientation in gv, but I just have to select seascape from the menu.
I don't know why it's not working for you... I'll try it on the mac
later.
Stefano
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:43:25 -0800 (PST), Vivien Mary Kendon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[Two replies in one here: Stefano see below]
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:
On lundi, fév 17, 2003, at 14:22 Europe/Paris, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote:
This probably isn't a problem with the fink side of the tetex
distribution, but since we are discussing it, I thought I'd try asking
anyway. I can get perfectly good landscape ps output from my latex
document, but I can't get landscape pdf output from it.
I think it is not completely out of topic here, because it is an old
problem, and the possible solutions depend heavily on the precise
version of tetex installed.
Oh dear, this is clearly a seriously advanced black art.
And I'm only a beginner in it it would seem...
Your method does not work for me. If I replace my preamble with yours
and
follow your recipe I get a couple of latex errors (it doesn't like the
a4paper option and mutters about magnification), and end up with a pdf
file containing a couple of blank pages, then my slides start on page 3,
but they are about a6 size, correct orientation, with a black box around
them, sitting in the middle left of an a4 portrait page! (At least, I
trust that isn't what you thought I'd get?!)
If I don't replace my preamble, then your landscape_90.ps does nothing,
I get a portrait page with cropped-on-the-right landscape content.
If I use the file /sw/share/ghostscript/8.0/lib/landscap.ps instead of
yours, I get the contents rotated by 90 degrees so it would fit portrait,
but also offset so the bottom edge is in the middle of a portrait a4 page
and cropped on the top (now right) at the edge of an a4 portrait page.
But I get it in a _landscape_ a4 page so it is also cropped on the right
(now bottom) edge! (But maybe I haven't commented/uncommented the right
things in that landscap.ps file yet...I'll work on it.)
Gawd...anyone else want to pile in?
Ahh, Stefano does:
From: Stefano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A way of getting the pdf in landscape format is to use the geometry
package in latex with the landscape option, i.e.
\usepackage[a4paper,landscape]{geometry}
Then use your same commands to produce the file Land.ps and then just
ps2pdf Land.ps. This should give Land.pdf in landscape format.
Nope, didn't for me. Landscape content, portrait pdf page. Viewed in gv
and in Preview.
BUT, just found out part of the problem is with gv viewing pdf: I tried
one of my earlier tests in Preview and it comes out correctly!! (But is
badly cropped and aligned in gv.) Yeah!! Now I have to figure out
_which_ test that was %*| And test in some more viewers...
Thanks for all your suggestions thus far...I'll report back if I can
figure out any pattern to what seems to work and not work after further
testing.
-- Viv
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free
---
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
___
Fink-users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
