Re: [Firebird-devel] 68K port
On 10/24/11 15:27, Damyan Ivanov wrote: >> We had that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no >> reasons to return to it. > I'd suggest to not put too much effort into that or any other port. > Let people interested in the port submit patches. I hope at least > there is an implementation ID that is available for use? > Yes and no. There was no port for 68k linux, but were for Apollo and Sun. In head that's nto a problem at all, what about 2.5 - I suppose adding ID for it should not cause problems. > As I understand it, the request is from a Debian/m68k porter, who aims > at reaching high availability ratio for the port in order to make it > "active" again (m68k was officially deprecate when the security > support for Debian 3.1 (the last release with m68k) was stopped in > March 2008). > BTW, there is alive CPU for embedded systems with arch, compatible with 68k. Therefore may be we all will have to make it active again. > Since so many "core" packages need Firebird to build (php5, qt, mono), > they are trying to make Firebird available in order to not stop port > progress to greater archive coverage. The other possible approach is > to stop the depending core packages build their Firebird functionality > and move on, but this is somewhat last resort. > > I hope this brings some background and makes intentions clearer. > Main problem is that like that porter reported, gdb in that port does not do expected things like showing stack traces. Therefore looks like w/o serious efforts ports to that system are problematic. At least w/o my serious efforts. -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] 68K port
-=| Alex Peshkoff, 20.10.2011 16:40:04 +0400 |=- > Hi, Dam! > > Can you comment something about this issue: > http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-3637 > > Telling true I'm surprised. Why is that port needed at all? No idea. People need different things :) > May be there is a real park of old 68k machines? Wikipedia mentions > that 68k-based architecture based CPUs are used in embedded systems, > but apache+php+firebird - is not it too much for embedded device? The server probably is too much, although you never know what people would want to do. Having the client seems like a plausible goal, though. > We had that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no > reasons to return to it. I'd suggest to not put too much effort into that or any other port. Let people interested in the port submit patches. I hope at least there is an implementation ID that is available for use? > Did not drop as "Won't fix" only because it came from Debian :) Very generous from you. Thanks! As I understand it, the request is from a Debian/m68k porter, who aims at reaching high availability ratio for the port in order to make it "active" again (m68k was officially deprecate when the security support for Debian 3.1 (the last release with m68k) was stopped in March 2008). Since so many "core" packages need Firebird to build (php5, qt, mono), they are trying to make Firebird available in order to not stop port progress to greater archive coverage. The other possible approach is to stop the depending core packages build their Firebird functionality and move on, but this is somewhat last resort. I hope this brings some background and makes intentions clearer. -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] 68K port
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > Hi, Dam! > > Can you comment something about this issue: > http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-3637 > > Telling true I'm surprised. Why is that port needed at all? > May be there is a real park of old 68k machines? Wikipedia mentions that > 68k-based architecture based CPUs are used in embedded systems, but > apache+php+firebird - is not it too much for embedded device? We had > that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no reasons to > return to it. Did not drop as "Won't fix" only because it came from > Debian :) I follow the bugs and fixes for debian and seems that port got in a compilable/bootable state at last :) http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2011/10/msg2.html I saw that ColdFire is still produced so this is what is the target for the real world (debian embeded) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freescale_ColdFire I will try to start the emulator and see how firebird works on it -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Ciosco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
[Firebird-devel] 68K port
Hi, Dam! Can you comment something about this issue: http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-3637 Telling true I'm surprised. Why is that port needed at all? May be there is a real park of old 68k machines? Wikipedia mentions that 68k-based architecture based CPUs are used in embedded systems, but apache+php+firebird - is not it too much for embedded device? We had that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no reasons to return to it. Did not drop as "Won't fix" only because it came from Debian :) Alex. -- The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Ciosco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
