ODP: [firebird-support] Re: Introducing Firebird Butler
Thank you to be involved into discussion. But i am still oposite. Example do not required any unique description. Example is not less/more than only shortcut to description. It is introduction to description. Description can talk about example or will be totally unreleated. But example is comparable to sentence „one image is better than thousand of words”. If i understand correctly this „Introducing Firebird Butler”. I better see this not as something „blown” and based on something external to Firebird. If i can propose somthing in this matter, then maybe Firebird engine should have some additional listen port. On that port firebird listen on incomming traffic in simple REST messaging like JSON. On Firebird side we can declare some specific trigger which can consume such JSON or whatever. But if we think about services build for Firebird than, think how simple is to write e.g. Windows Service in Delphi. How easy is to write and PROTECT! REST service in Delphi. Do you suppose that someone will be build such service in this „Introducing Firebird Butler”? Are you sure that someone will be reading virtual documentation without seeing simple example at start? Without knowing anything about benefits compared to simple Windows Service or REST service? If you or someone can show me (and maybe others are also interested) any real benefit, example, than i am more than interested in this. And i am not only interested in using it, but i then can offer time to implement something. But without real introduction i will stay with REST/Windows services based on Delphi. Thay work for me for e.g. IOT with big traffic and any problems. regards, Karol Bieniaszewski
[firebird-support] Typo in Firebird Butler announcement
There is a typo in: https://firebirdsql.org/en/start/ and: https://firebirdsql.org/en/news/introducing-firebird-butler/ "alongside the core (Fierbird database system) and database drivers." There is a "FiERbird" instead of "FiREbird." Thanks.
ODP: [firebird-support] Firebird startup issue
Hi. I had never such issue. But mayby setting FB service autostart to „delayed” will help you. regards, Karol Bieniaszewski
[firebird-support] Firebird startup issue
Hi I have just upgraded my PC (everything new except the HDD). Now when I boot my computer the Firebird service shows as started but looking at the log I see the following entries TAU Fri Feb 01 16:46:47 2019 INET/inet_error: bind errno = 10013 TAU Fri Feb 01 16:46:47 2019 Unable to complete network request to host "Tau". Error while listening for an incoming connection. My computer is Tau. Attempting to connect to any DN fails. Restarting the Firebird service resolves the issue and I can proceed as normal. I have disabled my Firewalls (Windows Defender & Webroot) but I still have the issue after a reboot. I have also un-installed and re installed Firebird (2.5.8 Superclassic). It is almost like the network stack hasn't finished starting up when the Firebird service tries to start. Any suggestions? Cheers Rob
[firebird-support] Re: Introducing Firebird Butler
Just a question about the use of ZeroMQ... Has anyone considered using ZeroC's Ice Framework? It appears to be a much more finished product with better diocumentation than ZeroMQ and is completely Open Source... Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer
[firebird-support] Re: Introducing Firebird Butler
I have two comments on this thread... I... The examples provided (I & II) do not necessarily show a correct pattern of either. In the first example, the assumption can be made that the description is unique and thus requires a unique example. The second is merely a reverse of the first, as a unique example requires a unique description. Where the second pattern example fails is when you can have multiple examples of the same concept, thus requiring basically a single description. For example here are two examples of adding to an integer variable in C#... CIntVar = CIntVar + 1 CIntVar++ Both examples would only need a single description, which describes that there are several ways to increment an integer variable in C#; the first using plus(+) operator, the second using the plus-plus(++) operator. II... My understanding of the Firebird Butler project could be two-fold... A specification for best practices for developing distributed systems using the Firebird Database Engine A set of enterprise tools to implement such systems (ie: an equivalent to Windows Communication Foundtaion: hence the attribution to ZeroMQ Just my thoughts... Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer blackfalconsoftw...@outlook.com
Re:ODP: [firebird-support] Introducing Firebird Butler
Hi, It's not that easy to give an example, but it's not that hard to get an idea what the Butler platform is all about: Picture TComponent/TModule model from Delphi VCL realized on SOA/messaging architecture. You can then build various applications from these building blocks (services). Individual services can share the same process(es), or could be distributed over multiple processes or even and computers. What these services/applications will do is up to the developer. Firebird project will create various services primarily for Firebird management tasks, and will create various bundles as consumer applications for specific needs. But the scope and usability potential of Butler platform is far beyond pure Firebird domain. Is it more clear for you now? BTW, the Firebird Butler development is currently supported by IBPhoenix and IBSurgeon, but other individuals and companies are welcome to join at any time, as it's a fully open project. best regards Pavel Cisar IBPhoenix Od: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Komu: "firebird-support@yahoogroups.com" firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Kopie: Datum: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:01:51 +0100 Předmet: ODP: [firebird-support] Introducing Firebird Butler I read many pages and still do not know about what it is all about.I am guy who like differenet learning pattern. Consider 2 patterns. I)DescriptionExample II) ExampleDescription If you thing about then you will see that only second pattern is acceptable. Example first then multiple pages of description. regards,Karol Bieniaszewski
Re: [firebird-support] What to install on a client computer
Re: [firebird-support] What to install on a client computer
31.01.2019 14:16, Ivan Cenov i...@okto7.com [firebird-support] wrote: > What is needed to install on a client computer so as an application to > access Firebird server 2.0.3 > that is installed on another computer. is there some client > distributable package? Run installer and choose "Minimum client install". -- WBR, SD. ++ Visit http://www.firebirdsql.org and click the Documentation item on the main (top) menu. Try FAQ and other links from the left-side menu there. Also search the knowledgebases at http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/ ++ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: firebird-support-dig...@yahoogroups.com firebird-support-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: firebird-support-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
[firebird-support] What to install on a client computer
Hi, What is needed to install on a client computer so as an application to access Firebird server 2.0.3 that is installed on another computer. is there some client distributable package? -- Regards, Ivan Cenov Software Manager OKTO-7 Ltd, Botevgrad, Bulgaria +359888761080 i...@okto7.com, i_ce...@botevgrad.com Redmine - Bulgarian Translation Maintainer
ODP: [firebird-support] Introducing Firebird Butler
Hi. I read many pages and still do not know about what it is all about. I am guy who like differenet learning pattern. Consider 2 patterns. I) 1. Description 2. Example II) 1. Example 2. Description If you thing about then you will see that only second pattern is acceptable.. Example first then multiple pages of description. regards, Karol Bieniaszewski
[firebird-support] Introducing Firebird Butler
We are pleased to announce a significant extension of the Firebird project to a whole new area. Starting in February 2019, alongside the core (Fierbird database system) and database drivers, a completely new division called Firebird Butler is integrated into the project. The purpose of the Butler division is to develop and provide solutions to various Firebird-related challenges faced by Firebird administrators and application developers that, for practical reasons, are not addressed by the core Firebird distribution. The primary aim of Firebird Butler is to create a development platform and develop a set of basic solutions to manage Firebird installations of any size, structure and complexity. The emphasis is on large corporate installations but the scope and ambitions of the Firebird Butler project are much broader: we would like to initiate development of an entire open source ecosystem of projects and other products, including commercial ones, in various languages. Projects could encompass not just the planned new services, but alternative implementations of the standard services as well. Moreover, the Firebird Butler Development Platform should become a solid foundation for development of any applications that use Service Oriented Architecture and messaging. For a closer look at the project goals and strategies, please read the "Introduction to Firebird Butler" at https://firebird-butler.rtfd.io/en/latest/introduction.html Although the project is only in the early stages of development, we encourage you to take a close look at what we have and where we are going. The project is completely open, and we will welcome anyone, individuals or organizations, who is interested in the objectives and strategy of the project and wishes to participate in its development, in a common or entirely private capacity, or to become its sponsor. Firebird Butler also presents a great opportunity for developers with experience in Python, Java, FreePascal, Delphi, C# or other languages to get involved in Firebird project activities. The Firebird Project Team ++ Visit http://www.firebirdsql.org and click the Documentation item on the main (top) menu. Try FAQ and other links from the left-side menu there. Also search the knowledgebases at http://www.ibphoenix.com/resources/documents/ ++ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: firebird-support-dig...@yahoogroups.com firebird-support-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: firebird-support-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
Re: [firebird-support] Service name
Hi. If you install Firebird then yes, but if you think generally then no. You can install FB service at any name e.g "myFB" Regards,Karol Bieniaszewski null
