Re: One down two to go!!!
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations! I have been wondering if Katya was bred for this year, and when she would foal. Glad you are pleased with the foal. I would like to see her some time. As you probably know, Dennis now has Katya's sister, Flikke. I must check with him to see if he has a foal from her this spring. We kept Glendar, as well as Flikke's colt Sindar. They are both three this spring and are currently living at the trainer's (boot camp?). We are very pleased with Glendar's progress. Mary Thurman _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Into - Betsy Bauer
This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Fjord Enthusiasts, As a newbie to the list my name is Betsy Bauer. I want to thank you all (Cynthia and Steve) for such a great idea forming this news group, and to all of you for keeping the content rich. Some of you probably knew my dad, Gene Bauer. Since he passed away, I realized that I could help people find Fjords in their area via the Internet. Also, to help those with one Fjord find buyers, and keep the value of the breed strong. I also am developing Fjord products and would love for you all to visit: www.thesocket.com/~betsyb. I started with a Fjord calendar, Fjord Xing signs and next it will be stationery which many have said they look for. I have two fjords, in California (Fresno), from my dad's herd - Hakar and Ole. My 7 yr old daughter is addicted and well she should be, she's riden since she was 1. Hakar is the perfect match for her and this summer we look forward to the walk/trot classes in our area shows. I of course have riden all my life, started with a Morgan, then TB, did the hunter/jumper routine. They have adjusted well to their California weather (1 year), yes, hot but no problems. We even bought our boys one of those horse balls... if dad saw that he'd give us a ribbing. As for the worming issue, I rotate Pannucur, Zimectrin & Stongis (sorry about the spelling) which is what Susan (from Hestdalen) advised me to do... does that sound good? Their weight was heavy at first and because Hakar was the alpha gelding of the pasture crowd, we put them in a paddock and now they get about 20# of hay per day/per pony. I am still amazed at this breed, they are everything my dad said they would be and now, as an owner, I appreciate their easy care benefits. Also, with having a child around horses, they are so forgiving and seem to know how to be "carefull". Still they try us just like children. Sorry if this is long, next time I'll keep it brief... Happy Ridin' and Happy Easter to Everyone! Betsy
Re: Dutch brands
This message is from: SSlotness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think the "Z" is used. A few years ago there was a mix-up with some mares that were imported. They all had "Z" names. One on them was named Zeitske. The article appeared in the Fjord Herald.
BAS
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:33:06 EDT > From: Jmggray > Subject: Re: Hello to all my new fjord friends! > > This message is from: Jmggray > > Ingrid, > > We noticed from our "mail" that you have a Fjord BAS - did you get him from > the Rivoires in Nova Scotia? We never saw him (if that is him) but did hear > about him > > Also, your mention of Malcolm. We stayed for a week at Beaver Dam in August > 96 and watched Carol's trainer work with Malcolm - actually have a video my > husband took of him. He really is an exceptional animal. Do you own him or > is he just in the area? > Hello there! Yes, I did purchase him from the Rivoire's Beaver Dam Farm, in Nova Scotia. He is the most wonderful horse I've ever known. He is Mr.RELIABLE. Bas sold me on the idea of acquiring a few more fjords, they are so much fun. I can't wait to see what Lilla's foal looks like, next year. No, unfortunately I do not own Malcome, but he is here in Ohio also, about 1 1/2 hrs. away! He is a dear, very sweet and has lovely movement, like his sire, Gjest! Thanks for asking...Ingrid
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #18
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) Lots of 'stuff' attached here -- > From: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #18 > Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 9:02 AM > > This message is from: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hi, This is a message from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia. > I'm not totally computer illiterate, but close to it. I manage to get my > e-mail and use the word processor, but that's about it. > > A lot of you have received our recent Newsletter announcing the publsihing > of my book - THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK. It's now ready to go, and we're > taking orders. A lot of the personal, gentle, slow and steady training > methods discussed in this forum are also discussed in the book. It's the > only way to go with Fjords, I firmly believe. Carol > > > > At 03:59 AM 4/11/98 -0600, you wrote: > > > >fjordhorse-digest Saturday, April 11 1998 Volume 98 : Number 018 > > > > > > > >In this issue: > > > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Canter- other ideas > > Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > > Re: Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > > Training > > beginner horseperson doing their own training > > Re: fjord horse society of GB > > e-mail question > > Re: Alpha status > > How to add a Link icon to your mail! > > Re: e-mail question > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Re: e-mail question > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:10:25 -0400 > >From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >At 08:44 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) > >> > >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. > >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of > >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > > > >Well congratulations there Dad! ;-) > > > > > > > >=== > > > >Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry > >Mike May, Registrar > >Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) > > > > > >http://www.nfhr.com > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Voice 716-872-4114 > >FAX 716-787-0497 > > > >=== > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 14:53:19 +0100 > >From: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Philip Petty wrote: > > > >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) > >> > >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. > >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of > >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > > > >Hurray!!! How will you call her? > > > >Saskia > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:05 -0400 > >From: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Canter- other ideas > > > >This message is from: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >With my limited experience with 2 Fjords, and being blessed with Lilly > >who loves to canter, I think all the canter help suggestions were right > >on the mark. I finally have the time to suggest a few things that I have > >not seen brought up. > > > >Saddle fit. My fjord, Freya, that did not canter when I first got her, > >has very prominent shoulder blades. Even if the tree of the saddle were > >correctly fitted, if the saddle were placed too far forward, there would > >not be enough room under the tree for her shoulder blades during > >movement. Plus she is built slightly "downhill" (hips higher than > >withers). Freya had vertebrae out of alignment in this area when I got > >her, as well as muscle spasms. > >My solutions were chiropractic/massage, keeping my saddle back with a > >crupper, and not pulling the girth up too tight, as this pulls the > >saddle forward and onto the shoulder blades. Since my saddle is an > >Orthoflex, I also put the balance pads in to leave the shoulder blade > >edge of the panels lifted off the horse so she had room for movement. > >BTW, the crupper also helps keep the saddle more stable on a round > >shaped low withered horse, especially when the girth is not super tight. > > > >For Freya, I used most of the other suggestions, such as galloping on > >trails or in fields. Being in the open and straight lines gave her more > >desire to move forward and at higher speeds, less strength and balance > >are needed. I also used the round pen, but not like John Lyons uses it, > >as I did that
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #18
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) Lots of 'stuff' attached here -- > From: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #18 > Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 9:02 AM > > This message is from: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hi, This is a message from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia. > I'm not totally computer illiterate, but close to it. I manage to get my > e-mail and use the word processor, but that's about it. > > A lot of you have received our recent Newsletter announcing the publsihing > of my book - THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK. It's now ready to go, and we're > taking orders. A lot of the personal, gentle, slow and steady training > methods discussed in this forum are also discussed in the book. It's the > only way to go with Fjords, I firmly believe. Carol > > > > At 03:59 AM 4/11/98 -0600, you wrote: > > > >fjordhorse-digest Saturday, April 11 1998 Volume 98 : Number 018 > > > > > > > >In this issue: > > > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Canter- other ideas > > Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > > Re: Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > > Training > > beginner horseperson doing their own training > > Re: fjord horse society of GB > > e-mail question > > Re: Alpha status > > How to add a Link icon to your mail! > > Re: e-mail question > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > Re: e-mail question > > Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:10:25 -0400 > >From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >At 08:44 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) > >> > >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. > >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of > >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > > > >Well congratulations there Dad! ;-) > > > > > > > >=== > > > >Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry > >Mike May, Registrar > >Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) > > > > > >http://www.nfhr.com > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Voice 716-872-4114 > >FAX 716-787-0497 > > > >=== > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 14:53:19 +0100 > >From: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > > > >This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Philip Petty wrote: > > > >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) > >> > >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. > >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of > >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > > > >Hurray!!! How will you call her? > > > >Saskia > > > >-- > > > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:05 -0400 > >From: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Canter- other ideas > > > >This message is from: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >With my limited experience with 2 Fjords, and being blessed with Lilly > >who loves to canter, I think all the canter help suggestions were right > >on the mark. I finally have the time to suggest a few things that I have > >not seen brought up. > > > >Saddle fit. My fjord, Freya, that did not canter when I first got her, > >has very prominent shoulder blades. Even if the tree of the saddle were > >correctly fitted, if the saddle were placed too far forward, there would > >not be enough room under the tree for her shoulder blades during > >movement. Plus she is built slightly "downhill" (hips higher than > >withers). Freya had vertebrae out of alignment in this area when I got > >her, as well as muscle spasms. > >My solutions were chiropractic/massage, keeping my saddle back with a > >crupper, and not pulling the girth up too tight, as this pulls the > >saddle forward and onto the shoulder blades. Since my saddle is an > >Orthoflex, I also put the balance pads in to leave the shoulder blade > >edge of the panels lifted off the horse so she had room for movement. > >BTW, the crupper also helps keep the saddle more stable on a round > >shaped low withered horse, especially when the girth is not super tight. > > > >For Freya, I used most of the other suggestions, such as galloping on > >trails or in fields. Being in the open and straight lines gave her more > >desire to move forward and at higher speeds, less strength and balance > >are needed. I also used the round pen, but not like John Lyons uses it, > >as I did that
Re: Introduction/Training Advice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) I have a mare named Paske, born on easter. The name if from the Norwegian Paskedag meaning Easter day. The a has a 'circle' over the 'a'. Philip Petty Lochas Fjords Mica, WA -- > From: barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Introduction/Training Advice > Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 3:18 PM > > This message is from: barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've been lurking for a week or so. My husband Barry and I have Village > Farm in Southern California. We have 5 Fjords here, 4 are ours. We > have Valbjorn our stallion, Halsten, his 2 yo son (gelding), and 2 bred > mares, Bjuti and Misty. Bjuti's last foal was born on Easter morning > and it looks like she may do it again. She's due any minute. We are > standing for the 98 season another stallion, Fair Acres Nels owned by > Jeff and Lisa Pedersen of Norco, CA (As well as Valbjorn). > > We pleasure drive Valbjorn all over town, ride the mares and hope to > have the young gelding started soon. We both work (I teach special ed, > the disabled kids and Barry is a tech for Dow Jones) and while we can > start our own horses we find it hard to get the early training lessons > scheduled consistently. I tried a trainer who came to the farm but > didn't care for her methods. I sent a mare out and while not unhappy > with the methods, was unhappy with her progress. The trainer was coming > off an injury and was a bit nervous and the horse picked up on that real > quick. I was hesitant to use some of the very competent young girls > around because of the liability. We are in racehorse country and had > noticed that of the 3 or 4 riders galloping horses for my neighbor one > was a standout. He always had the horse going beautifully and and sat > so quietly--I never saw him treat the horses roughly. This rider has > now started several horses for us and all have been happy, confident, > and learned quickly. It is important for a rider on a green horse to be > well balanced, fit, confident and have good timing. Few of us fit this > discription. If at all possible I would suggest that the woman with the > green horse search for someone like this rider if only for a few > lessons--it took us awhile but the search was worth it. The Fjords are > a picnic to handle compared to what he's used to and he loves to come > work them. Once he's done 10-15 rides we've been able to continue the > training ourselves with no problems even if they are not worked daily. > > Sorry I've gone on so long. Would like to hear some Easter name > suggestions from anyone--I didn't think I'd have another Easter foal. > > Margaret Strachan > Village Farm > Nuevo, CA > http://www.pe.net/~barry/
Re: One down two to go!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) Thanks, I'll check out the site. Philip -- > From: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: fjordenlijst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 3:42 AM > > This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Have not decided yet, she was born on my wife's birthday, > what a happy coincidence! > > >but I'm not sure > >if Bonnie is a Norwegian name, or what is a Norwegian version of Bonnie. > >Philip > > There is a list of "fjord names" on > http://www.thier.nl/cgi-thier/fjord/fj.zoo.s and Bonnie, Bonni and Bonny > are in it, but I don't know if this is Norwegian... Maybe Percy knows? > I think "Bonnie" is a nice name. > > Saskia
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #18
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, This is a message from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia. I'm not totally computer illiterate, but close to it. I manage to get my e-mail and use the word processor, but that's about it. A lot of you have received our recent Newsletter announcing the publsihing of my book - THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK. It's now ready to go, and we're taking orders. A lot of the personal, gentle, slow and steady training methods discussed in this forum are also discussed in the book. It's the only way to go with Fjords, I firmly believe. Carol At 03:59 AM 4/11/98 -0600, you wrote: > >fjordhorse-digest Saturday, April 11 1998 Volume 98 : Number 018 > > > >In this issue: > > Re: One down two to go!!! > Re: One down two to go!!! > Canter- other ideas > Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > Re: Fjord Round Pen Reasoning > Training > beginner horseperson doing their own training > Re: fjord horse society of GB > e-mail question > Re: Alpha status > How to add a Link icon to your mail! > Re: e-mail question > Re: One down two to go!!! > Re: e-mail question > Re: One down two to go!!! > >-- > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:10:25 -0400 >From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 08:44 PM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote: >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) >> >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > >Well congratulations there Dad! ;-) > > > >=== > >Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry >Mike May, Registrar >Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) > > >http://www.nfhr.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Voice 716-872-4114 >FAX 716-787-0497 > >=== > >-- > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 14:53:19 +0100 >From: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: One down two to go!!! > >This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Philip Petty wrote: > >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) >> >>Today around 10:30 PDT, Katya (Line X Rusten) had a beautiful filly. >>Romulus (Ramstad X Viola) is the stallion. Best looking foal I've seen (of >>course I'd think that) here at Lochsa Fjords. > >Hurray!!! How will you call her? > >Saskia > >-- > >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:01:05 -0400 >From: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Canter- other ideas > >This message is from: Sam & Sue Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >With my limited experience with 2 Fjords, and being blessed with Lilly >who loves to canter, I think all the canter help suggestions were right >on the mark. I finally have the time to suggest a few things that I have >not seen brought up. > >Saddle fit. My fjord, Freya, that did not canter when I first got her, >has very prominent shoulder blades. Even if the tree of the saddle were >correctly fitted, if the saddle were placed too far forward, there would >not be enough room under the tree for her shoulder blades during >movement. Plus she is built slightly "downhill" (hips higher than >withers). Freya had vertebrae out of alignment in this area when I got >her, as well as muscle spasms. >My solutions were chiropractic/massage, keeping my saddle back with a >crupper, and not pulling the girth up too tight, as this pulls the >saddle forward and onto the shoulder blades. Since my saddle is an >Orthoflex, I also put the balance pads in to leave the shoulder blade >edge of the panels lifted off the horse so she had room for movement. >BTW, the crupper also helps keep the saddle more stable on a round >shaped low withered horse, especially when the girth is not super tight. > >For Freya, I used most of the other suggestions, such as galloping on >trails or in fields. Being in the open and straight lines gave her more >desire to move forward and at higher speeds, less strength and balance >are needed. I also used the round pen, but not like John Lyons uses it, >as I did that kind of work at the trot. Freya needed to re-learn how to >canter after her physical discomfort, without all the other stuff going >on, like my weight, the saddle, the contact with the bit, etc.. Lunging >would not be possible for me because she could pull me rather than >figure things out. > >I started with very simple goals-three or so strides of canter without >me chasing or her breaking and she got a rest. As Freya is always >"looking for the stop", once she figured out she got a rest after
Fjords
This message is from: john bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Time to introduce myself, I guess. My name is Martie and my husband John and I bought our first Fjord horse (Kilar) about 18 months ago. We also have an Arab (Kismet, nickname Kissy), a Quarter Horse (By Jiminy, nickname BJ) and a Tennessee Walker (Lady GH or just Lady). Plus a shetlandXwelsh pony, Wee Willy, sometimes known affectionately as Weasel. We had been looking for a LONG time for a Fjord. They are practically unheard of here in Maryland. I remember riding with a young girl who had one about the time I bought my first pony, a WelshXQuarter Horse many years ago and the Fjord mare was SO good and my pony was SO bad that I decided then I needed a Fjord. This forum is great! Kilar is a lot different than the other horses. I have had to completely rethink my training/handling methods with him. He is smarter then the Arab, quieter than the Quarter Horse and easier to handle most of the time and any of them. But he IS stubborn! When I bought him, the previous owners at Sorum Fjords in Ohio said he was trained to ride, but hadn't been ridden in about 6 years. Well, the first winter I had him, I rode because I didn't know how to drive and didn't have any harness or cart to fit him. Wee Willy's was way too small. He took his first trail ride like he had been trailing for years. He obviously had no clue when we came to the wide stream, but with only a little encouragement (and another horse behind; he couldn't go back), he walked right through. The only problem I had on the first ride was getting him to go home again. Every time we got near the barn, he turned around and refused to go back. I finally got off and led him about 1/4 mile. Next ride, same thing, but I had another rider 'lead' home and he was fine. I think he was hoping that if he kept on going he would get back to Ohio and the Sorums. Last spring I started taking driving lessons and bought a cart and harness. Kilar is OK to ride, but he really loves the cart. You can see in his body language how excited and happy he is when we harness up and drive out. The woman I take lessons from owns, trains and show Percherons. She says Kilar has a real attitude on the cart. He really loves it when you tell him how good he is doing. He's a ham. I have had difficulty with him invading space. I will try some of the ideas I read today in the forum. He just likes to be closer than my other horses and it sometimes makes me nervous. If the Arab pushed that close he'd be a real danger, he is so high-strung. I get the feeling with Kilar though that he just wants to be a 'lap-dog'. Thanks for all the helpful info! Martie
Introduction/Training Advice
This message is from: barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been lurking for a week or so. My husband Barry and I have Village Farm in Southern California. We have 5 Fjords here, 4 are ours. We have Valbjorn our stallion, Halsten, his 2 yo son (gelding), and 2 bred mares, Bjuti and Misty. Bjuti's last foal was born on Easter morning and it looks like she may do it again. She's due any minute. We are standing for the 98 season another stallion, Fair Acres Nels owned by Jeff and Lisa Pedersen of Norco, CA (As well as Valbjorn). We pleasure drive Valbjorn all over town, ride the mares and hope to have the young gelding started soon. We both work (I teach special ed, the disabled kids and Barry is a tech for Dow Jones) and while we can start our own horses we find it hard to get the early training lessons scheduled consistently. I tried a trainer who came to the farm but didn't care for her methods. I sent a mare out and while not unhappy with the methods, was unhappy with her progress. The trainer was coming off an injury and was a bit nervous and the horse picked up on that real quick. I was hesitant to use some of the very competent young girls around because of the liability. We are in racehorse country and had noticed that of the 3 or 4 riders galloping horses for my neighbor one was a standout. He always had the horse going beautifully and and sat so quietly--I never saw him treat the horses roughly. This rider has now started several horses for us and all have been happy, confident, and learned quickly. It is important for a rider on a green horse to be well balanced, fit, confident and have good timing. Few of us fit this discription. If at all possible I would suggest that the woman with the green horse search for someone like this rider if only for a few lessons--it took us awhile but the search was worth it. The Fjords are a picnic to handle compared to what he's used to and he loves to come work them. Once he's done 10-15 rides we've been able to continue the training ourselves with no problems even if they are not worked daily. Sorry I've gone on so long. Would like to hear some Easter name suggestions from anyone--I didn't think I'd have another Easter foal. Margaret Strachan Village Farm Nuevo, CA http://www.pe.net/~barry/
Dutch brands
This message is from: "the Sessoms'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does the NFHR have a brand for the Fjords who pass muster at American evaluations? My fjord mare, Dorina, has the Dutch brands on each hip. I understand that this is done at the two year old evaluation, and that she must have passed through a grading system at the time. On one side is an upside-down triangle with a 'D' in it, thus her name starts with a 'D' and all Fjord foals born in Holland that year are named with a 'D' name. Dorina was born in 1983, that means Konggard with a 'K' name was born in 1990, right? I have heard of several mares with names that start with 'U', 'V', 'W' and 'Y' but none with 'X' or 'Z'. Is that because their names just haven't come up in the Herald or on the web, or because they don't use those letters? And what is the meaning behind the 'bars-and-dots' brand on the other side? Is it like the American freeze brand, some sort of code? And when you see a two year old Dutch filly with the brands on each hip, what does that tell you? Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Dorina - NFR Aagot - - - Fjords - Caper - Carly - Crickett - - - Labradors
Introduction
This message is from: "the Sessoms'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi folks ... My name is Meredith Sessoms. My husband, Steve, and I have a nice little house on 5 acres near Chattanooga TN. I was born in the 'I Like Ike' era. I am an artist who draws and paints horses and dogs. One year I won 1st and 3rd prize in drawing at Art Show At The Dog Show sponsored by the AKC. We have 3 great Labradors: 'Caper', a dark yellow from Hennings Mills Labradors in OH; 'Carly', a creamy yellow from Chenil Chablais in Quebec; and 'Crickett', a black from Centre Court Labradors in TN. We have 4 kitty-cats: Peachy, Khyber, Sparky and Splash. And 3 Guinea fowl: Oxo, Maxi and the Stranger who just showed up one day when I was bemoaning the fact that my last two Guineas were terribly inbred and full brother and sister! When we decided to get livestock for our little farmlette we came >that< close to getting alpacas, then we came to our senses and said, "Why get alpacas when we can get horses?" So, last September, we became the proud owners of two lovely Fjords: DORINA - bred by K. Jager in Holland. (Holunder X Uvonia, ster by Oostman) She's a wonderful, 14 year old, 14hh, brown dun mare who has quite the personality and is an excellent riding horse. NFR AAGOT - bred by Brian Jacobsen DVM in North Carolina. ["Hi Brian, Barbara and Daniel!"] (Leik X F.V. Anitra by Solar) She's a sweet, silly, ultra-cute, one and a half year old, red dun filly. ['Aagot' is pronounced like a cross between 'August' and 'Olga'] We adore our new ponies! Their personalities are everything I had read about the breed - feisty, smart, trust-worthy, curious, head-strong and steady. Our 'ladies' are proving to be a lot like Labradors because they are as cute as Teddy-bears and they are more like friends than pets. I have just joined the local dressage club ["What breed of horse do you have?" "Fjords." "Oh, (pause) those big, black horses?"] and started dressage lessons to further my knowledge about horses. I started out struggling to keep my feet in the stirrups, quite an embarrassment for me! I do know how to ride, quite well I thought, but this dressage thing is something else! My seat, leg and hand are all wrong for dressage. When I was a kid I was trained to lean forward in an English saddle when I asked my horse for a faster gait, to force my heels down till my ankles ached, and to hold my elbows slightly forward at the walk and to lean further forward and lift out of the saddle as the pace quickened - apparently these are 'no-no's' in dressage and terribly hard habits to break. But, I'm learning and I think I'll catch on ... hopefully, maybe, someday, surely!?!!! I am so happy we finally got a Fjord list for us Fjord enthusiasts. Many kudos to Steve McIlree and Cynthia Madden, the list-keepers! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy TN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Dorina - NFR Aagot - - - Fjords - Caper - Carly - Crickett - - - Labradors
Fwd: worms, daily dewormers, Quest
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) I apologize for being slow to write back with what I was going to say about Quest (tm). To my knowledge, Quest has not yet been known to hurt a horse when it was used properly. When used improperly, though, it seems to be less forgiving than some of the other pastewormers we're used to. The sales rep for the company that makes Quest told me about a pony here in North Carolina that had actually died shortly after being dewormed with it. However, he claimed that the pony had been extremely overdosed. It seems the owner was accustomed to giving her 250 pound pony a whole tube of pastewormer and had never had trouble with the other brands. When she did it with Quest, though, within a few hours the pony started displaying neurological signs which progressed to seizures and then death. Even though I'm embarrassed to relate it, I personally saw the effects of Quest dosed improperly also. I dewormed some of the horses with Quest one day, and since I was short on time, was going to give it to the rest when I had more time. Two weeks later I did deworm the rest, but mistakenly also repeated it with one horse that had gotten it two weeks earlier. The proper dose was used each time, but obviously you're not supposed to use it again that soon. Three days later my horse was showing signs of abdominal discomfort (colic). To make a long story short, he recovered quickly and uneventfully with several days worth of a Pepto Bismol type medication for stomach irritation. Whereas a double dose of the other common pastewormers would have caused no untoward side effects, especially two weeks apart, it seems that Quest can cause problems. I do take full responsibility though, for (unintentionally) using it wrong. On the positive side, one of my year-and-a-half old geldings had a bit of a pot belly that frequent deworming (tube and paste) and what should have been proper nutrition had not improved. Within three weeks after using the Quest, there was a noticeable improvement with a trimmer, more appealing abdominal shape. To summarize, I and the veterinarians I work for and with feel that Quest should be a good dewormer to use in a rotation with several others of the good ones we already have. IMPORTANT POINT - rotation. Neither the Ivermectins (Zimectrin (tm), Equimectrin (tm), Eqvalan (tm), Rotectin 1 (tm)) nor Moxidectin (Quest (tm)) are very effective against tapeworms. Although in general tapeworms are one of the species we see the least problems with, exclusive use of the dewormers listed above can result in a buildup of tapeworms resulting in impaction colic. As an example of this, in veterinary school I saw a horse that had to be euthanized due to an impaction of unknown cause that was not responding to medical treatment (surgery was not an option financially for the owners). The autopsy revealed many tapeworms packed together and blocking the intestines. Since then I have seen 2 or 3 more that luckily did respond to medical treatment, and, subsequent to treatment for tapeworms (the fecal exam revealed that's what the problem was), have not had a reoccurance. Someone paricipating in the Fjordhorse Digest wrote (maybe a week ago?) that they used Zimectrin exclusively every two months; I hope they see this to know that can cause problems. Now, to answer some good questions: Dave McWethy wrote: I had a fecal test done for a couple of my mares this fall, and the result was "negative". I questioned that, wanting some more detail, and they said, "Negative, we didn't see anything." What am I to make of that? Should we have looked at another sample? A negative result means (1) your horses do not have any worms (possible but doubtful - that's almost impossible to achieve), (2) there were no worms in your horses that were laying eggs at that time (not mature yet, "encysted", or migrating), (3) eggs were being laid, but since only about 1/2 teaspoon of stool is used in the test, none were in the test samples, and (4) the veterinarian/technician missed seeing eggs that really were there in the fecal samples. Since numbers 1 and 4 are unlikely, the most likely answer is number 2 or 3, most likely #2. Dave also asked: So what do you do, Brian, for worming of your horses? I try to keep the number of horses per pasture to a minimum, harrow the pastures in hot, dry weather only (worms thrive in wet, and don't mind cold - if you harrow in these conditions you will help the worms by spreading them out but not killing them), and deworm (tube and paste) each 8 weeks with Pyrantel Pamoate products (Strongid (tm), Rotectin 2 (tm)) and Ivermectin products (Zimectrin (tm), Equimectrin (tm), Eqvalan (tm), Rotectin 1 (tm)), and each 12 weeks with Moxidectin (Quest (tm) on a rotating schedule. Hmmm.that sounds about as clear as mud. : ) Anotherwards, I go Pyrantel Pamoate, Ivermectin, Moxidectin, although not always in that exact order and I don't
Re: One down two to go!!!
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Have not decided yet, she was born on my wife's birthday, what a happy coincidence! >but I'm not sure >if Bonnie is a Norwegian name, or what is a Norwegian version of Bonnie. >Philip There is a list of "fjord names" on http://www.thier.nl/cgi-thier/fjord/fj.zoo.s and Bonnie, Bonni and Bonny are in it, but I don't know if this is Norwegian... Maybe Percy knows? I think "Bonnie" is a nice name. Saskia
