Re: Stallion Lines

1998-06-03 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 11:30 AM 6/3/98 -0400, you wrote:

>This message is from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia
>
>I've heard talk that the NFHR is working on a studbook.  I hope that will be
>available to us soon.


Yes the Board of Directors approved the purchase of the new software that
will allow me to produce a studbook for all of the NFHR registered horses.
I am not sure at this time how many volumes it will be.  I am guessing at 2
- 3 anyway.  There are over 2200 horses registered now.  After the original
studbook are produced I think it will probably be printed on a yearly
update basis.

Mike



Re: New Stud Muffin...

1998-06-03 Thread Mike May
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 10:36 AM 6/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi to All:  This is another birth announcement. Our mare, Sylvi, foaled on
>Tuesday night at about 2:30AM.  A very tall stud colt who weighed in at
>around 120LBS and stands a hair short of 40"(That's almost 10 hands high!)

Well congrats to all of you!

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Re: Chin hairs

1998-06-03 Thread Mary Thurman
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Beth,

Regarding burning chin hairs, I saw it done by Mr. Von Bon yesterday
at the get together at Creekside Farm.  It is done with a 4" candle
(fat candle), and you do actually burn off the hair under the horse's
jaw.  Not the hairs on the lower lip or nose though - too dangerous
for the horse, plus they need them for eating.  Anyway, it looks scary
and smells like burned hair but the horses get used to it and I
suppose you would get used to doing it, but I would not want to try it
in any way but under the close supervision of someone who know what he
is doing.  It does produce a very nice clean look without the lines
and "shelves" you get from using scissors or clippers.  It was an
interesting demonstration everyone agreed, but I didn't  hear anyone
too anxious to "try this at home", although I suppose some will.

Hope this satisfies your curiousity about burning chin hairs.

May







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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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New Stud Muffin...

1998-06-03 Thread Jon A. Ofjord
This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi to All:  This is another birth announcement. Our mare, Sylvi, foaled on
Tuesday night at about 2:30AM.  A very tall stud colt who weighed in at
around 120LBS and stands a hair short of 40"(That's almost 10 hands high!)
This is our first colt.  He has two half siblings, both fillies to keep him
in line. He doesn't have a name yet, but he has a lot of pizazz!  Mother
and son are doing fine.  Owners of the horses are pooped!

Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 



Re: Fjord Mare for Sale - Sebastopol

1998-06-03 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Saw this horse in the Santa Rosa CAlifornia newspaper (Bay Area) and could
not resist asking.  The telephone number is 707-824-0229.  Asking price is
$6000 "Serious Inquiries Only"  Thought there might be someone out there who
is interested.

Dear Gail,
Cinnabar's breeding is the following:  her sire is Solar, a wonderful Fjord
stallion from Norway, standing currently in Vermont with Lindsay Sweeney.
Her dam is my mare, Yvonne, a Dutch Star mare whom I imported 10 years ago
from Holland.  I am the one who bred her dam (AI) to get her, so I have had
her literally from day 1.  She began training, long-lining, initially in
Texas where I lived.  The man who started her was very good and gentle.
After that she pulled a quasi-cart made out of PVC poles and then graduated
to a training cart that seated 2.  He drove her quite a bit and then began
riding her.  She was actively worked her first 3 years in TX, but since I
moved to my place here almost 3 years ago, she has not been ridden.  She is
handled daily, in and out of barn every evening, grooming, feet, blacksmith,
etc and is very gentle and good tempered.  I had her in training briefly
again this Spring with Vivki Wall here in Sebastopol. I was amazed at how
well she did after that long hiatus. I no longer ride due to my bad back.
Her registration number with the NFHR is PCC-E-489-M.  She has never been
bred.  Her conformation is good and correct and she is more refined, not the
heavy, drafty type of Fjord.  Give me a call at 824-0229 to meet her.  Julia
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Stallion Lines

1998-06-03 Thread Arthur Rivoire
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This message is from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia

I was interested to read Susan's message from Sweden regarding the Stallion
Lines.  As far as I understand it, our stallion, Gjest, represents a
separate line, and one that is unique in that it's a straight father to son
line from the foundation stallion, BARONEN.  This was told to me by B. J.
van Bon, Chief Inspector of Fjords in Holland, and I've also seen it
illustrated in his book, "Van Vestlandhest tot Fjordenpaard."  The line
starts with the stallion, Adelstein 149, and goes to his son, Baronen 193.
I don't know why it's listed with Adelstein before Baronen, since it's
usually called the Baronen line.

After Baronen, comes HAKON 302.  Is this the same Hakon Susan refers to as
father of the 4th line in Sweden?  After Hakon is Rapp 671, then
Lervikblakken 791, Kong Ola 895, Rein Gust 1184, Enok 1610, Vosse Lars 1674,
Helgas Jarl I 09 (Dutch #) -- Helgas Jarl is the sire of Gjest.  Then Gjest
I 49 (Dutch #), then Gjest's son, Fjellwin F-74.  Then to follow this line
in North America, there's BDF Kanada King breeding in Washington, and BDF
Malcom Locke breeding in Ohio.

I've heard talk that the NFHR is working on a studbook.  I hope that will be
available to us soon.

Regards from Nova Scotia.  Carol


>fjordhorse-digest   Wednesday, June 3 1998   Volume 98 : Number 074
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>In this issue:
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>   Chin hairs
>   Re: Chin hairs
>   Re: Burning the hairs?
>   Norwegian Fjordhorse tribes
>
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>Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:53:25 -0600
>From: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Chin hairs
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>This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>This burning of the chin hairs also intrigues me.   Maybe a person could
>save some wear and tear on  body clippers in winter!  Anyone remember
>the sterilization scene in Andromeda Strain?  (Oh oh, I'm dating
>myself.)  - Beth
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>This burning of the chin hairs also intrigues me.   Maybe a person
>could save some wear and tear on  body clippers in winter!  Anyone
>remember the sterilization scene in Andromeda Strain?  (Oh
>oh, I'm dating myself.)  - Beth
> 
> 
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>Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:15:33 -0700
>From: Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Chin hairs
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>This message is from: Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Speaking of chin hairs, do they ever shed out completely.  Gunthar is almost
>completely in his "summer suit' but his chin hairs are pretty well attached.
>Maybe this is just his "draft side" showing itself, and they won't shed out?
>Gail Russell
>Forestville CA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:42:34 -0700
>From: Anton Voorhoeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Burning the hairs?
>
>This message is from: Anton Voorhoeve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi Ingrid, when you groom the Fjord the idea is to do as little as
>possible, aside from the mane,  in order to keep him or her in a
>natural state as they are considered a primitive breed.  However, the
>fluffy hair under the chin and on the legs does interfere with the
>general appearance.   To cut it leaves marks so instead we learned to
>burn the hair with a candle.   Just hold the candle under the chin and
>you get a little "brush fire".  It smokes and stinks but the horses
>don't mind.   To put the fire out just brush it with your hands.  Better
>to do it out of the wind and before washing!   I have a detailed video
>of the whole grooming process and will make it available soon.   Try the
>burning a little at the time and compare it to cutting, good luck.
>Anton V.
>
>--
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>Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 00:19:56 PDT
>From: "Susanne Grönqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Norwegian Fjordhorse tribes
>
>This message is from: "Susanne Grönqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Here comes rainy greetings from Sweden.
>
>I´ve asked before, but there seems to be a very small interest
>in tribes and family trees. All my free time, I spent doing family trees 
>on different fjords. Did you for example knew that there´s only four 
>stallionlines all over the world in the fjordbreeding ??
>And how did it become like this ? I think this is very interesting,
>because it must have been more than one stallion in the beginning.
>The stallion which is the"father" to all four stalliontribes is called
>Njaal N 166. And his great grandfather is Gange Rolv I N 42.
>And the four lines is; Bergfast N 635, Håkon Jarl N 645,
>Öyarblakken N 819 and Håkon ( Can´t remember his number right know ).
>Here in Sweden, the 

chin hairs...

1998-06-03 Thread Ingrid Ivic
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Anton V.,


> However, the
> fluffy hair under the chin and on the legs does interfere with the
> general appearance.
>
  Thankyou for the information Anton, I was curious about this. I
see...it's purely a "cosmetic and preferential thing" to do then.
Interesting procedure.
Is this something people mainly do for horses they show? Personally,
mine don't have their whiskers, ears or legs clipped, but then I don't
show. I do cut the mane in the traditional arched/crescent shape, but
that's it. Other than that, they are "ala-naturelle".  Ingrid  :o)



Norwegian Fjordhorse tribes

1998-06-03 Thread Susanne Gr�nqvist
This message is from: "Susanne Grönqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here comes rainy greetings from Sweden.

I´ve asked before, but there seems to be a very small interest
in tribes and family trees. All my free time, I spent doing family trees 
on different fjords. Did you for example knew that there´s only four 
stallionlines all over the world in the fjordbreeding ??
And how did it become like this ? I think this is very interesting,
because it must have been more than one stallion in the beginning.
The stallion which is the"father" to all four stalliontribes is called
Njaal N 166. And his great grandfather is Gange Rolv I N 42.
And the four lines is; Bergfast N 635, HÃ¥kon Jarl N 645,
Öyarblakken N 819 and Håkon ( Can´t remember his number right know ).
Here in Sweden, the most common line is HÃ¥kon Jarl, and the rarest
Öyarblakken. Of the 30 stallions we have in use right now, I think it´s 
just 2 or maybe 3 who´s the Öyarblakken line.
When we started our breeding here in Sweden in the end of the 1950´s,
we imported stallions and mares from Norway. And most of the stallions 
were back then Öyarblakkenline.
Which lines do you have in the rest of the world ?
All of the four ? Mail and tell me ! 
This can be a very interesting discussion !!

Rainy and cold greetings from Susan, Sweden

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