Re: we're new

1998-06-08 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Welcome,

I bought an 8 year old Fjord who was reasonably well trained, but saw a
patsy coming when he got here.  There is hope however, as he is much better
than the evil little brat he became for a while.  More tomorrow on my
experiences bringing Gunthar back in line.

Gail

Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: we're new

1998-06-08 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Welcome to another Alaskan!  Where in alaska are you located?  Here in
Fairbanks, there are now about fourteen Fjordds that I know of, between
three families.   It would be nice if we could get enough to have a class
at the Fair horse show.

I'm sure you'll find a lot of fun and useful info on the list!

Jean
 and Fjords Bjarne, Bjorken, Stella and Adel in Fairbanks, AK.
79 degrees today, 21 hours,19 minutes sunlight!(Sunset is 12:28AM, Sunrise
3:15!)

 At 04:10 PM 6/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hello, this is Ann and Mark in Alaska.  I am happy to have been hooked 
>up with this list.  We are new with horses and got a 9 yo fjord gelding 
>last year.  He is sweet but bossy and hadn't been worked with a lot.  A 
>bad start for two novices, but so be it.  I will be doing a lot of 
>"listening" to your conversations and probably begging for help 
>occasionally.  
>We are also looking for a second horse, this one to be well trained, a 
>good role model and even teacher for the humans to some degree!  If we 
>can afford to, we'd love that one to be a fjord also.  We are building a 
>barn this summer with nice big stalls in case we ever have a foal.  I am 
>looking for a gelding or a mare.  I would probably breed her a few times 
>(during my own pregnancies, ideally) but mostly we are interested in 
>riding, packing and learning to drive a sleigh.
>That is enough for an introduction!
>
>
>
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Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: First Show, Kids Chat AOL, Amy White.

1998-06-08 Thread Amy K White
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Betsy,

Woodrow's phone # is:  308-732-3330.  The team is well matched and very
well trained.  I would have them myself if I could.
Steve and Amy White

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Re: we're new

1998-06-08 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hello, this is Ann and Mark in Alaska.  

Welcome to the list Ann & Mark!

> ...  He is sweet but bossy and hadn't been worked with a lot.  

Sweet but bossy, eh? Gee, I don't know any Fjords like that :-)

Something I found about pushy Fjords, and I have one of my own, is that
you need to be very sure in your own mind of what is and isn't
acceptable behaviour. And then do whatever it takes to stop the
unacceptable. In my experience you need to be very firm in enforcing the
rules, and then it'll click in the horses mind. They are super
intelligent and so seem to reason "hey why *shouldn't* I walk over this
puny 100 pound human who is in my way?". Once they learn that you won't
stand for stuff like that, things are good.

Well I hope that helps at least a little bit. It'll probably take you
longer with a 9 year old, I started with a pushy yearling (who if I can
sneak in a little brag to the list, was hitched to a cart last week
(she's two years old now) and is driving like she's been doing this all
her life))

Lori



we're new

1998-06-08 Thread Mark and Ann Restad
This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello, this is Ann and Mark in Alaska.  I am happy to have been hooked 
up with this list.  We are new with horses and got a 9 yo fjord gelding 
last year.  He is sweet but bossy and hadn't been worked with a lot.  A 
bad start for two novices, but so be it.  I will be doing a lot of 
"listening" to your conversations and probably begging for help 
occasionally.   
We are also looking for a second horse, this one to be well trained, a 
good role model and even teacher for the humans to some degree!  If we 
can afford to, we'd love that one to be a fjord also.  We are building a 
barn this summer with nice big stalls in case we ever have a foal.  I am 
looking for a gelding or a mare.  I would probably breed her a few times 
(during my own pregnancies, ideally) but mostly we are interested in 
riding, packing and learning to drive a sleigh.
That is enough for an introduction!



Re: First Show, Kids Chat AOL, Amy White.

1998-06-08 Thread Alison Barr
This message is from: "Alison Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Betsy Bauer wrote:

> Next, we're heading to Pony Club - did you all know that this club 
> isn't
> for just ponies?  Children 8 - 16,

In Canada, we go to 21. are you sure? I can't imagine anyone reaching the "A" 
level
before 16.  I think the youngest on record was 16.

> learn equestrian and stable management
> skills including rallies, shows and lots of instruction.  Out here in
> California, it's nice to find equestrian emphasis as opposed to all the
> western interest.  Abbey likes English as her mom did 40+ years ago, but
> who's counting, right!

For all those interested, pony club is a nice way to introduce the young rider.
You don't need a fancy horse, or expencive stuff, just safe tack and a pony. 
there
are lots of different things to participate in, and a wide variety of events.  
For
example, if I had been a year older, I could have gone to south africa this 
year,
to compete on borrowed horses/ponies in their huge show.  It ranges in 
difficulty
from those who have never ridden before, to those who move on to national and
international events.



Re: Chin hairs

1998-06-08 Thread Starfire Farm
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Mary Thurman wrote:

> This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Regarding burning chin hairs, I saw it done by Mr. Von Bon yesterday
> at the get together at Creekside Farm.  It is done with a 4" candle
> (fat candle), and you do actually burn off the hair under the horse's
> jaw.  Not the hairs on the lower lip or nose though - too dangerous
> for the horse, plus they need them for eating.  Anyway, it looks scary
> and smells like burned hair but the horses get used to it
>
> Thanks, Mary, for the info.  I'll probably try it, someday, but will
> make sure I have the Fire Department standing by!

Beth.

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Re: To Saskia

1998-06-08 Thread saskia
This message is from: saskia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Dave,

>Hope you're feeling better.
hum... I went to the dentist this morning, so I think I'll be feeling 
better soon... thank you!

>What is a "lucifer"?  ("two trees in my pasture broke down like 
>lucifers")
a matchstick I can't believe myself that I wrote "lucifer"!!! (the 
Dutch word). I was really dozy!!! I'm sorry!!!

Saskia



To Saskia

1998-06-08 Thread Dave McWethy
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hope you're feeling better.
What is a "lucifer"?  ("two trees in my pasture broke down like 
lucifers")



To: Ingrid; Survey of the stallionlines

1998-06-08 Thread Susanne Gr�nqvist
This message is from: "Susanne Grönqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Ingrid !

I wrote that HÃ¥kon N 302 was a line of Njaal N 166,
but he isn´t. He comes directly from Gange Rolv I N 42.
 ( N = Norwegian studbook )
And, yes, I know that Enok N 1610 is exported to Sweden.
He has 7 approved sons, 4 approved gran´sons, 2 greatgran´sons,
and a lot of mares here in Sweden.

Well, the line which you call the Baronenline, we call the HÃ¥kon N302
line. Are we wrong ??
You also wrote that ReinGust, the father to Enok, was a Baronen- 
stallion. And in a way he is. But HÃ¥kon comes first in the line;

( Enok S 39, N 1610 )- ReinGust N 1184 - Kong Ola N 895 - Lerviksblakken 
N 791 - Rapp N 671 - HÅKON N 302 - Baronen N 193.

And here come the rest:
   Gange Rolv I N 42
  B: 1874, browndune
   /   /
  Skarphedin Gange Rolv II N92  
   
  //
   Fleitner N97Stallion born in Innvik
  //
   Njaal N 166, b:1891 d:1910  Adelsten N 149
/   \  \   /
Odin Fridtun  Fredman Gange Rolv Baronen N 193
N 423  N 275 N 261  /
   / \ \   HÅKON N 302
Veimar N 275Harald Bolsoy N509   Trygg N 299
   / \   \
Ga Pa Stordal  HÅKON JARL N 645 Dalegubben N 502
  N 568\
   /  BERGFAST N 635
Rodsetblakken
   /
OYARBLAKKEN N 819


I´m also interested in a photo of Baronen. In fact, I´m interested
in all information that you have in these stallions above.
Photos, birth, studs, everything !!
So if you have some info, will you send it to me ??
I´ll be so greatful if oyu would !!

Regards from a summerwarm Sweden,
 Susanne

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To: Ingrid Nygaard ;Stallion Lines

1998-06-08 Thread Susanne Gr�nqvist
This message is from: "Susanne Grönqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



>Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:58:13 +0200
>From: Ingvild Nygaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Stallion Lines
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>This message is from: Ingvild Nygaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Carol Rivoire posted a message about her stallion, Gjest's line, The
>Baronen line. (Carol - I have a picture of Baronen 193 if you're
>interested.) The Baronen line is a separat line beside the Njaal-line,
>although Baronen 193 was somehow related to Njaal through Gange Rolv 
142
>(Njaal and Gange Rolv had the same ancestor).  Baronen is very seldom
>mentioned, because his line almost died out in 1954, when the last
>surviving Baronen - horse, Rein-Gust 1184, was sold from Telemark to
>Dale in Sunnfjord. In Dale, Rein-Gust had the 1. prize stallion Enok
>1610, and this saved the line's existance. Enok went to Voss, and had
>his 1.prize son, Vosse Lars 1674. And all of Vosse Lars's sons, Helgaas
>Jarl 1764, Rodin 1799 and Brennar 1824 have sons with 1. prizes. And
>here's a bit that may interest Susanne: Enok 1610 was eksported to
>Sweden in 1970, and he has a lot of offsprings there.
>
>The reason why it is called the Baronen-line and not the 
Adalstein-line,
>is because of the quality of Baronen. The lines are named after the 
most
>prominent stallion. And altough Adalstein may have been a good 
stallion,
>Baronen was better, and the line was named after him. This goes for all
>the lines. Another reason is when Njaal and Baronen lived, they were 
the
>only two real fjord stallions in Nordfjord. This was under the Rimfakse
>war, and most of the other stallions had doelehorse-blood. (Read more
>about this on my history-page)
>
>As for the main-lines: In Norway there are only three lines after 
Nj=E5l,
>besides the Baronen-line. This is Bergfast 635, Haakon Jarl 645 And
>Oyarblakken 819. The best stallion in the Bergfast-line is Grabb 1651.
>He went to North America in 1980 and are probably familiar to most of
>you Americans. Haakon Jarl has Gloppang 894, Molnesblakken 792,
>Torbjoern 1417, Valebu 1569 and Lidaren 1653 as the most famous
>offsprings. And Oyarblakken has Dyre 1059, and Jaermann 1788. Jaermanns
>father, Hosar 1717 was born on my grandfathers farm.
>
>I have a rather nice picture of Haakon Jarl and Bergfast on my
>Fjordhorse page. If you would like to take a look at it you'll find it
>here:
>
>http://home.sol.no/~hansse/pic/haakonJ&bergf.jpg
>
>I am working on an historical rewiew (wich I never seem to finish) on
>the Fjordhorse in Norway, based on books and hear-say, and when it is
>finished, I'll put it up on my history-page.
>--
>
>Ingvild Nygaard
>http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/
>
>The Fjordhorse page
>http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html
>
>
>

Hi Ingrid !!

Well, Håkon N 302 isn´t a line from Njaal N 166 as I wrote the first 
time. And, yes, I know that Enok N 1610 was exported to Sweden.
But we call the Baronen line HÃ¥kon N 302line instead.
Are we wrong ?? 

I send you what I know :

   Gange Rolv I N 42  ( N = norwegian studbook )
b: 1874, browndune
  //
   SkarphedinGange Rolv II N 92
 / /
   Fleitner N 97  Stallion born in Innvik
/  /
   NJAAL N 166Adelsten N 149
b:1891 d:1910,Dam:Kempa N59/
   / \  \Baronen N 193
 Odin Fridtun N 423 Fredman N 275 Gange Rolv N 261 /
   /  /  /   HÅKON N 302
 Veimar N 475 Harald Bolsoey   Trygg N 299   
 /N 509   /
 Ga Pa Stordal /Dalegubben N 502
N 568   HÅKON JARL /
 / N 645 BERGFAST N 635
 Rodsetblakken
  /
Oyarblakken N 819

You wrote that ReinGust N 1184 is a stallion of the Baronenline.
In one way he is, but he goes down to HÃ¥kon first;

( Enok S 39 - )ReinGust N 1184 - Kong Ola N 895 - Lerviksblakken N 791 - 
Rapp N 671 - HÅKON N 302 - Baronen N 193.


Enok N 1610 has, as far as I know, seven approved son´s here in Sweden, 
4 gransons, 2 greatgrandsons and a lot of mares.

I´m also interested in a photo on Baronen N 193.
And I´m VERY interested in sons and any information that you maight have 
on these diffrent stallions that I´ve wrote above.
I´ll be greatful !!

Kind regards
  Susanne Sweden

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Horses in Oz

1998-06-08 Thread Jackie Kennedy
This message is from: "Jackie Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Saskia

Horses were first bought to Australia by the English when they first
settled Australia, they came in ships and it took about a year, depending
on the wind conditions.  Helena was born here.  You can get direct flights
to Australia from Amsterdam, London, Frankfurt, Rome, Paris and several
other large European cities.  With horses, they travel in special transport
planes which are chartered to fly them wherever they need to go.  They have
to spend time in quarantine too, both before they leave their country and
when they get here too.  

No horses will come for the Paralympics, the riders must ride borrowed
horses in this competition as its too expensive to bring horses here.  The
Olympics will have their horses as they have more money than the
Paralympics  I don't know when  (or if) I'll be selected, probably not
till about March in 2000 or maybe later.  

Missed you in the chat this morning, hope you'll make it next time but the
times are really bad for you so..

Jackie.