Re: NFHR Education Committee

1999-03-08 Thread Julia Will
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Cynthia ~ I love your ideas for the Education Committee and I hope you get
all the help you can use.  I have my hands full right now with the BOD so I
can't volunteer...sorry.  But I just wanted to give you a pat on the back
for all your enthusiasiam.  (spelling???)  Thanks for your efforts.  Julie



pictures

1999-03-08 Thread Breyer1213
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Hi I was wondering if any one that has PICS of their would share them with me.
I am most looking for pictures of Fjords rearing, driving, or doing log pulls
anything weird or not so weird.  It does not matter if you have a website or
not. Please all of you who have not mailed anyone on the list yet this is your
chance. I would love to hear stories about the pictures and bragging on the
horses accomplishments. The reason I am looking for photos is this: Since,
owning a "live" Fjord is not possible at the moment I am doing the next best
thing, I collect and show their model counterparts. My showsting needs a few
unique models that will do well in classes which larger horses like Quarter
Horses and Thoroughbreds are more common. By showing the model Fjord I am
reaching another audience that may want to buy a Fjord in the future. I want
their adaptability to show the different things that they can do without being
injured. Some of these things are, driving, dressage, hunter/jumpper, western
trail, barrel racing, cutting, English pleasure and that's just to name a few.
Some please help me. Thank you for your time and helpfulness, 
Erika Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: 99 Show Dates???

1999-03-08 Thread Julia Will
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Hi Mike ~ Did I send you the date for Breeders?  May 22nd.  Ya'all come!  Julie



Hello from Alberta

1999-03-08 Thread Jackie Bellerive
Hi, I am looking for a list of breeders for Fjords in Canada as well as
in Norway. I am having trouble finding any books on this breed. Could
you suggest a good book with general information.

Thanks 
Jackie Bellerive
RR1
Eckville, Alberta
T0M 0X0



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1999-03-08 Thread ceacy
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In response to Donna's post and Sharon's reply,

I would like to add that I agree with Sharon's comments, and that I would
be cautious in assuming that a horse 's reasons for behaving in any given
manner can even be necessarily understood. We may never be able to
accurately diagnose a horse's physical problems but that does not mean
there isn't one. I think sometimes we think medicine, human or veterinary,
is an exact science.  It isn't, so before I would punish a horse for
misbehaving, I would like to believe that I have tried every other way of
approaching solving the problem in the relationship. We have all seen
horses that would be difficult for one rider and perfect with another, same
horse, different relationship. If there is a behavior problem under saddle,
I would always look to what the rider is doing first, assume that the
problem starts there and not with the horse. I always give the horse the
benefit of the doubt.

Beyond that, I would like to say that , even if a horse does not have a
medical  or physical reason why they do not wish to do something, doesn't
mean that they don't have a psychological reason. Can you force them
through it, probably up to a point. Horses are forced to do things they
don't want to all most all of their lives. The point is that there are
other ways of getting a horse to want to work for you that do not involve
force. What is the benefit of this ? Beyond the beauty of this kind of
partnership, the horse is more forward, willing, relaxed, and reliable.

I think the reason most of us have gotten involved with clicker training is
because we wanted a better way of communicating with our horses. When I am
working with my stallion, if he isn't getting it, then I assume I need to
change my approach.
If he loses interest, then I change the game somehow, if he gets cranky and
doen't want to play, I say fine , I will come back later. Clicker training
isn't just the manner in which you shape behavior, its a philosophy of
learning. It takes time, and patience, but most of all it requires the
trainer to be creative and observant.
Everything your horse does or does not do has the potential of telling you
something about the internal state of your horse. Its not so much about how
well you can teach your horse something, as much as it is, how well can you
read your horse. The best way to read your horse is to clear out all the
preconceived ideas you have about his behavior and have an open mind. As
Sharon said, no assumptions. You will not be open to learn if you don't
question your "knowledge" about your horse.



Thank you Brian J.

1999-03-08 Thread Catherine Lassesen
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Thank you Brain J. for the pat on the back. We were feeling lower class, now
we fell BETTER.  We use are vets for annual checkups and each foal gets
blood tested for Igg and examined. We feel that our foals are VERY important
and we want them to get the best of care, FROM DAY ONE.  Now we feel that we
ARE real breeders! ;-)



Re: Stallions

1999-03-08 Thread Jean Gayle
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Thanks Mark, I was wondering who might enter the forum with what I had also
been told.  But I wonder if it doesn't boil down to dominant and recessive
genes?  Jean




>animals: that is, some mares throw good offspring regardless of what
>they are bred to.  However, one should never breed to "just any
>>



Stallions

1999-03-08 Thread Mark and Lisa K. McGinley
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I was reading a book today (Horse Sense by John J. Mettler, Jr. D.V.M.)
and came across a passage that I found interesting in regards to all the
posts concerning "Back Yard Breeders" and the fact that there are too
many stallions and that a smaller number of higher quality stallions
would be better in the long run for the breed.  He says on page 103
"...to what stallion are going to breed your mare?  The female seems to
be dominant in passing on most characteristics, as in most domestic
animals: that is, some mares throw good offspring regardless of what
they are bred to.  However, one should never breed to "just any
stallion".  This is contrary to ancient belief that the male is the most
dominant, only recently proven false."  This seems to go against
everything the Europeans are doing in having a few select stallions and
little control in regard to the mare's quality.  When Mr. Mettler states
that the stallion's dominance has only recently been proven false, he
gives no information as to where that proof came from.  What do the more
experienced breeders out there think?  Is it the stallion, 50/50, or the
mare who has the most effect in a breeding?

Mark McGinley
Mariposa
Washburn, WI

(The farm with only mothers in attendance)



Handicapped Riding Conference

1999-03-08 Thread Northhorse
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Several months ago I talked with ONE of you about the upcoming NAHRA (I
believe) Conference to take place this month in Portland.  I saved that email
and was going to call, but when my husband upgraded my computer to AOL 4.0, he
lost all my saved mail  

Now, I don't remember who it was who was going, or when the conference is,
etc.  Could you re-email me with the info?  I'd love to go to it, especially
since I think the Fjords are the best therapy horses ever created!  (though I
do know a couple quarter horses and appaloosas that are worth their weight in
gold also).

Thanks!
Pamela



Re: replies to various "shots" posts

1999-03-08 Thread Mary Thurman
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Additionally, Mary mentioned having annual physical exams performed.
 I
> don't know if Mary is a breeder, but here again, if you've found an
> owner/breeder who does this, you've found one who takes good care of
> their horses.
 
In answer to Brian's question:  No, we no longer breed Fjords, but we
did for over 10 years.  Just a small operation, two mares a year at
the most.  I learned about annual exams for my horses many years ago
while I was still in high school and worked part time for the "local"
vet.  He came to town two days a month from his practice 100 miles
away because our area had no vet.  And yes we did have foal exams on
all our foals - its kind of like "well baby checkups" - why would you
leave them out?  Isn't the idea to produce healthy animals and keep
them that way?  How on earth would you know if everything is "right"
with that new foal if you didn't have him checked out after he was
born, and again 12 hours later to be sure he absorbed those
antibodies?  Thanks Brian for sharing your knowledge on the list.  It
really is helpful, and makes you stop and think things through again
every once in a while.

Mary
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Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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