Re: His name is Winslow
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean in Alaska, why do you say no bran mashes? A friend of mine has a fjord who was so fat he foundered and she still insists on bran mashes with supplements etc. Jean Gayle, I think you just said why! :) They don't NEED it. Maybe a mare after she foals, but for regular everyday feeding a gelding in normal use? Why? If you want feel good about treating your fjord to something special cut up a bunch of carrots! They LOVE carrots and they're relatively non-fattening with a lot of vitamins. I had to reduce by half the little amount of grain my guys were getting, since it has warmed up and they seemingly fattened up on sunshine! AND I felt so guilty about taking that bit of grain, which they love so much, away from them! I feel like I'm depriving my babies of their favorite thing but I know it's in their best interest! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still brushing off fjord hair after riding Bjorken today. +43F degrees and sunny, snow melting! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Renee I very much enjoyed your page. Lovely horses and background. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: His name is Winslow
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean in Alaska, why do you say no bran mashes? A friend of mine has a fjord who was so fat he foundered and she still insists on bran mashes with supplements etc. Jean in Aberdeen where someone said we will have forty days of rain! A pox on them. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: His name is Winslow
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sure you are going to get a lot of response to the questions you asked about general care for your new horse, and a lot of different ways of doing things. Here are some things that I think are essential to basic horse care. Vaccinations-the programs depends on what part of the country you're in but should include Tetanus, Flu/Rhino(often given 2x a year), Easter/Western. There are many other vaccinations. Good thing to discuss with your vet. Worming-Rotate different paste wormers every 8-12 weeks as instructed. About once a year, I have a fecal check done on my horses. If they are still showing an egg count, my vet will do a tube worming, which is stronger than the paste wormers. Paste wormers can be done by you, the vet tube worms(inserts hose thru nose to stomach to administer medicine)Worming your horse is very important. Feed-A good grass hay seems to be best for Fjords. The 1/2/ to 1 cup of oil a day seems excess for a Fjord. Oil produces energy and this seems like too much. Go easy on the bran mash. It should be a once and a while thing. Too much can leach calcium from their bones, as bran has a high phosphorus content. Trimming-find a very good farrier. After training, this is one of the most important things that can affect your horse physically. Even if you don't put shoes on your horse, he should be trimmed every 8-12 weeks depending on how fast his foot grows and his use. Keeping is foot in good balance is critical for his tendons, etc.
Re: orthoflex saddles
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sleepy's saddle is very comfortable for me; Rom's saddle doesn't quite fit my husband right. Maybe your husband doesn't like it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
RE: orthoflex saddles
This message is from: Frederick J. (Fred) Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Denise, I also have an Ortho-Flex, western saddle. The worst that I can say about it is: I LOVE IT. Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Denise Delgado Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:19 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: orthoflex saddles This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear listers, am contemplating a new saddle. i would like to link up via email privately with anyone who has, or had an orthoflex saddle. i am doing research and am getting conflicting messages. please email me, if you can help. thanks, denise
Re: orthoflex saddles
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: am contemplating a new saddle. i would like to link up [...] with anyone who has, or had an orthoflex saddle. i am doing research and am getting conflicting messages. We have 2 OrthoFlex saddles, one for each of our Fjord geldings. Rom's is a Traditional, custom-made about 1989; Sleepy's is an Express, semi-custom, 1991. (These are endurance saddles---on what amounts to western trees, but without horns, and with unusual stirrup and girth rigging.) The horses seem to like them, and do well with them. I've had a little trouble with Sleepy's saddle ruffling hair on his loins; fortunately, he's got lots of hair, and tough hide, i.e. never anything resembling a sore there. Sleepy's saddle is very comfortable for me; Rom's saddle doesn't quite fit my husband right. Over the years, I've heard assorted opinions about OrthoFlex saddles. The good news is that OrthoFlex is capable of making saddles that fit and function well. The bad news is that they keep fiddling with their designs, some of which seem to be more successful than others. I've heard from people who love the saddles, and wouldn't part with them for anything; I've heard of folks who hate them, and have sold them, cheap. I've not been able to get solid data about the vintages of saddles from the complainers, but I get the impression that the early saddles were very good; then there was a time when they weren't so good, then better. I have no recent data to tell what the current crop is like. I do NOT suggest buying one used. There are, of course, the usual issues of whether the tree is right for you and your horse. (Contrary to some advertizing, they're not one size fits all---neither of our boys can wear the other's saddle!) In addition, OrthoFlex saddles depend on the flex panels being of the right stiffness for the weight of the rider. So, if a heavyweight (like me) were to buy a saddle designed for Becky Hart (endurance rider, who maybe weighs 100 lb, soaking wet), the saddle wouldn't function properly. Yes, the saddle can be sent back to the manufacturer, and have new panels refitted---but I think I'd rather have one designed for me and my horse to start with. My main complaint with OrthoFlex is their customer service. When I bought my saddles, they were growing rapidly. The first one got lots of individual attention, and came out of the box fitting perfectly. The second one was sort of assembly line, with some parts not as ordered, and they were snippy about making it right---with the clock running on their warranty while we argued! Would I buy another one from them---maybe. I'd do a lot of research, to see what else is available, first Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.
Ortho Flex saddles
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] In answer to Denise Delgado's question regarding Ortho Flex saddles, I have to say I love mine. I have a Caliente model and am very satisfied with it. But even more important, so is my horse. I have a big mare, and both of us carry a fews more pounds than we should g. I had a hard time getting finding a saddle that fit her proportions. The Ortho Flex not only fits her, but also fits my smaller 4YO mare. My older mare and I went to a fun show last year and it was a hot day and she had to wear her saddle for about six hours. When I took it off, she had a dry strip down the middle of her back and two perfect oval sweat patterns on her back. These saddles don't rub the horses on the back and allow for free movement of the shoulder. I would definitely recommend them to anyone. Mary Ofjord North Coast Fjords
horse for sale
This message is from: Fairport Florist [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Sale - 4 yr. old brown dun Fjord gelding, Erland son, started driving. Excellent temperment and movement. Asking $4000 or best offer. Also have antique sleighs and 4-wheel buggy fully restored for sale. Contact Karen or Roger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 315-597-6851 evenings or days at 716-223-9121.
Re: His name is Winslow
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Grace, Welcome to the list and congrats on your new FJord! I'm sure you'll get dozens of replys with advice, but you can also go to the archives and look up the stuff on feeding, shots, bits, saddles, etc. etc. Good resource. On feeding...FIRST, it would be a rare Fjord that would need the addition of oil in the diet..Old horses, recovering from illness, etc may need some but Fjords are such easy keepers that a cup of oil every day would have them looking like a fat sausage in no time! Good quality grass hay and perhaps a vitamin supplement and a handful of grain in the winter months usually is very adequate. A trace mineral salt block and plenty of clean water available. No bran mashes, but carrots are great treats, mine get about a half pound carrots each every day in the winter. You'll find it will be a problem keeping him from getting TOO fat! so you can't do free choice hay or pasture generally. Carol Rivoire's Book, THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK is a good sourse for care and feeding. Again, look in the archives, there is a lot of information there. Where are you located? Maybe there are some other fjord owners near you? Best of luck with your new fjord! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, an absolutely gorgeous day, +40F and sunny, almost 12 hours daylight now...soon will have more daylight than you folks down south! At 04:03 PM 3/15/2000 EST, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi I've been reading excerpts from all you lovely Fjord people for a couple of months now, and enjoy it much. I guess I could call myself a Fjord people too since I just bought my first Fjord. He will be delivered to us next week. He is a 4 year old Gelding, and I'm very excited to get him. I have much to learn, have many questions, and welcome all advice from what's the best saddle between Aussie and Western, to does my Fjord need vegetable oil in his diet? I read it in a book, that horses need 1/2 to 1 cup of vegetable oil every day. Should I feed him just hay, or hay and alfalfa? What about treats, bran mashes, apples, carrots, or what? He is not neck reined, and I'd like to teach him. What is the best kind of bit for me to use for that, and are there any good books on training Fjords? What do you all recommend for worming? the vet, or do it yourself? He is a lovely horse and I wish to provide the very best of care for him. I'm also curious about the benefits of insurance, is it worth it? Please send opinions and coach me along in this wonderful horse adventure! Grace Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
His name is Winslow
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi I've been reading excerpts from all you lovely Fjord people for a couple of months now, and enjoy it much. I guess I could call myself a Fjord people too since I just bought my first Fjord. He will be delivered to us next week. He is a 4 year old Gelding, and I'm very excited to get him. I have much to learn, have many questions, and welcome all advice from what's the best saddle between Aussie and Western, to does my Fjord need vegetable oil in his diet? I read it in a book, that horses need 1/2 to 1 cup of vegetable oil every day. Should I feed him just hay, or hay and alfalfa? What about treats, bran mashes, apples, carrots, or what? He is not neck reined, and I'd like to teach him. What is the best kind of bit for me to use for that, and are there any good books on training Fjords? What do you all recommend for worming? the vet, or do it yourself? He is a lovely horse and I wish to provide the very best of care for him. I'm also curious about the benefits of insurance, is it worth it? Please send opinions and coach me along in this wonderful horse adventure! Grace
Update
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there; Renee here from Wild Flower Fjord Farm. Just givingupdates on our fjord farm and what is going on. We are busy planing for the busy show season ahead. He have now two 4 year old geldings for sale. I thought I would run that by some people that are looking for some trained gledings for the upcoming show season. They have been around kids and are really great. If you would like more information please contact us at anytime. www.geocities.com/Fjords2000/Fjords2000.html We have updated our web page so please stop by and see it!! We still have a couple of bugs to work out though. We would also like to know if there are any fjord shows in our area. And for the fjord owners in and close to our area we would like to host a fjord show in year 2001 and would like to know if there is enough people who would participate in the show. It would be a very big show at a big equestrian center. Please send us your name and address and we can send you updates. Because we would like to establish a program geared to the competitors who will attend. Int he information please tell us what division you would like to see at the show and what you or other people show in. We would like to make it a two day show. Hope to hear from you soon!! Renee Lafleur Wild Flower Fjord Farm 2565 Airport Road Timmins, Ontario P4N 7C3 1-705-268-0848 home 1-705-268-4068 fax e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.geocities.com/Fjords2000/Fjords2000.html
Web page, young horses
This message is from: misha nogha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catherine I got to your first page okay, but when I tried to get to your other pages, it shut my whole computer out to the C prompt. Admittedly I only have a 486 with an upgrade, but it is something to keep in mind. (Yeah I know, any one have a used pentium they are dumping). My husband makes web pages and he tries to keep them attractive but simple enough so even that basic computers can run them. All this talk about new web pages, I told my husband, heee, make me one too. I designed the last one kinda and I think it needs a little pizazz! I did make a Fjord animated gif on my links page, that was fun and extremely tediuos! So I am thinking... The young horse green rider discussion is great. I am willing to sell in a circumstance like that IF the owner agrees to do something like what Gayle mentioned--have help every step of the way. In fact, I always recommend Gayle to my customers! If you have help and are comitted it does work out. It is kinda funny because these imprinted foals can be so mellow and trusting. Lots of times when buyers come over the babies are napping. They lift their heads but don't get up. If the buyer scratches their bellies, they roll over like dogs--ha. You can pick up their legs and just wiggle em or play with them. When they do get up they are sweet and nice. BUT! I always warn people. Don't kid yourself! They may look dog tame and are respectful now, but they will test the heck out of you when you get them home. If you are not savvy, you are going to get bamboozled right away and be sorry you bought a foal! Respect does not transfer well--you have to earn it. That is why Carol says such things, well be careful with the greenest rider and your best horse. They still need help learning. You can have a super horse and in the hands of a novice it can be a real pill! On the other hand, if you have a green horse and green handler, they are committed and get help and all, I have seen some amazing partnerships develop! You know, we can give our best advice, but you can't control people's lives. If they want to try something, they should. I mean, otherwise life is too dull. We had snow again last night. I am real sick of the lingering winter. I want to get playing with the horses and the snow with warm up during the day and snow again at night makes for a huge mud pit! It's quite annoying. I want the real MCCoy! IE warmer, drier, sunshine-kind of a baby huh? Misha Shota Fjords http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez
Re: Green Horses
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Betsy and a good lesson for all of us. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: fast noving fjords
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great day when you get that slow canter and makes all the hard work worth it. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
fast noving fjords
This message is from: M.Bijster [EMAIL PROTECTED] And the other thing I noticed. I've never seen Fjords MOVE SO FAST. I think I need to see a few more in motion,... When I ride my Hansje in the indoor riding school and it is feeding time, and she hears that the other horses get their food, she walks so fast, it is just like a sewing machine : tsjak, tsjak, tsjak, on and on and on. as if she hopes that the hour will go faster when she trots harder. . . Today, by the way, she had finally discovered that she can canter in a slow speed. Really like a dressage horse, in stead of throwing herself into in and going as fast as she could. I was really surprised what was happening and it was no accident, because I let her canter several times on both hands and she had really understood what was meant ! greetings, Marion, Holland
RE: orthoflex saddles
This message is from: Mary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am hoping that this discussion can be on our forum, as this is of interest to me, and probably a few others. Thanks, Mary This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear listers, am contemplating a new saddle. i would like to link up via email privately with anyone who has, or had an orthoflex saddle. i am doing research and am getting conflicting messages. please email me, if you can help. thanks, denise --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
orthoflex saddles
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear listers, am contemplating a new saddle. i would like to link up via email privately with anyone who has, or had an orthoflex saddle. i am doing research and am getting conflicting messages. please email me, if you can help. thanks, denise
13th warrior
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We finally watched the movie (2 times in one day). Rune loved it. Very Viking and lots of Viking myths. Did you notice that the riddles fjords knew the way back to the barn? (ha) They did too many close up and not enough step back and let the audience see the full picture. I could have done with out the close ups of the blood and guts. But Rune did not mind. Guess it is the Viking in him. Catherine Lassesen , still without a computer to see the changes in the web site. Thank you for your input for we are trying to up grade. We love links so email me a link, if I have missed on and we will be sure to get it on.
green horse folk
This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, I too was one of those people who always wanted horses. I decided to train myself by taking riding and care lessons. I asked the people who were teaching riding if they would teach me all aspects of caring for the horse I rode. When I bought Grieg, the breeder convinced me that owning a weanling was easier. I think it would have been better for me to buy an experienced horse, but I was convinced that the breeder knew (and that fjords were different). Hindsight is 20/20. I had a trainer come to the house to teach both Grieg and me. Grieg has also spent time at his barn for intensive training periods. Grieg is not finished, but the trainer will start coming to our farm again come spring and snow melt. So those of you who are also green, do not despair! You can learn how to handle/care for a horse. But it IS easier to start with a horse that has been trained... Krissy
Re: I finally watched the 13th warrior!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I watched it about a week ago and was pretty disappointed. I'm glad I didn't go and see it in the theater. I had to sit through all the gore just to see what I wanted to see at the end... Baldur moved that fast once, he took off with me when I first got him. It wa the first time I had ever been run away with on any horse. Now he quits if I ask him to canter too long too fast. He's such a lazy bum sometimes, but I love him anyway. Kate in CT mom to Baldur
Re: I finally watched the 13th warrior!!
This message is from: sini seppala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Noonan wrote: And the other thing I noticed. I've never seen Fjords MOVE SO FAST. I think I need to see a few more in motion, I thought only Dusty new how to Get up and Go like that Do you think they could have used a certain trick: sometimes a scene is filmed at normal speed and then showed for example twice as fast in the final result. This is what was done e.g. when Zorro rides his two horses (standing up) through the woods like a madman (in Zorro's Mask). Actually the horses were cantering very slowly and under control although it looks pretty wild in the actual movie. This trick was used also when The Horse Whisperer was filmed, at least when the horse is laid down. Sini. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
