Re: Missing Herald
This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] in reagard to the heralddon't feed too bad...i just got mine yesterday and in quite sad shape. it looked like it had been run over several times and left under an oil-leaking jalopy, at least overnight. it is also in pamphelt form, having come apart in transit, loose pages and all. yeehaw, denise Is anyone else missing the new Herald? I think I renewed my membership on time last spring. You did renew on time I just looked. I know the Spring Herald was late in getting to me, but it seems that this has been a couple weeks now. I only received mine last week.
Re: fly collars and leg bands
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol - do you mean leg wraps?? If so, I use them and they seem to work - reduce some of the stomping. Also good if there is an injury/sore to keep flies off. Leg bands? Have not heard of that. I am curious too. Linda in MN
RE: Horse guarantee question
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, I have many years of experience breeding horses. I also, researched and taught a short course on horse breeding and operating a horse business. Bill Walton wrote: I have a question that I'd like to put to the group. We bought a Fjord mare about 2 and a half years ago that was supposedly pregnant at the time and the seller guaranteed a live birth. A few months after getting her we found she was no longer pregnant. We took her back to the seller who had the stud and had her serviced. This was done several times last year and twice this year all to no avail. All this was done under the direction of a good vet who ultrasounded her on a regular basis. I have finally come to the conclusion that it is futile to spend any more time and money trying to get this mare pregnant and my vet agrees. This sounds logical. After it was determined that the mare was not pregnant the first or second time, was an exam performed to see if there were any reproduction problems with the mare? Normally, if you are buying a mare for breeding purposes, it is recommended that this exam be performed by your vet. Also, what is the conception rate for the stallion? These are things that you need to know before it can be settled that the mare will not conceive. So, since I have not encountered this situation in the past and am a novice at horsebreeding I do not know what I should expect the seller to do to honor his guarantee of a live birth. I know that selling a pregnant mare with a guaranteed live birth is a fairly common practice but what is the accepted recourse if the live birth does not happen. Normally, the guaranteed live birth is from the stallion owner, not the seller of the mare. In this case, it sounds like the seller is both. What happens if a live foal is not born depends on the contract that was signed. One standard practice is to rebreed the mare to the same stallion. The seller has offered to give me either another breeding to another Fjord mare or the $450 he normally gets as a breeding fee. This sounds like a common practice, but what did the contract say? A friend of mine who has dealt with horses many years says that I should return the mare and get my money back but the seller is not real receptive to that idea. To force this issue, you would have to prove that the seller knew that the mare was not breedable or had a condition that made it difficult, and was not pregnant. I don't necessarily like that idea either as we have gotten quite attached to this mare. I know I would not have bought her in the first place for the price I paid if it were not for the guaranteed live birth. Boy! can I relate to this situation. I probably paid too much for my first mare, but later I found out that compared to deals friends of mine got from the same dealer, I got a really good deal. Also, I could never replace the fun and education I got from that mare. I hope this information helps. There may be alot of factors that I am not aware of in this situation. Here are a couple of web sites for more information. There are a lot more sites, but I don't have my list with me. http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/ http://www.piebaldpress.com/ (ocntains equine legal information) Good luck! Curt Pierce Bristow VA
Re: Missing Herald
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:40 AM 7/19/00 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone else missing the new Herald? I think I renewed my membership on time last spring. You did renew on time I just looked. I know the Spring Herald was late in getting to me, but it seems that this has been a couple weeks now. I only received mine last week. It is actually fairly important sometimes that I get it on time. Maybe they are being mailed bulk mail, and it gets held back longer in my area? They are mailed bulk rate I can tell you that for sure. They can take up to 3 weeks or so sometimes. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing Herald
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone else missing the new Herald? I think I renewed my membership on time last spring. I know the Spring Herald was late in getting to me, but it seems that this has been a couple weeks now. It is actually fairly important sometimes that I get it on time. Maybe they are being mailed bulk mail, and it gets held back longer in my area? Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Saddle fit
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anneli I love that opens her mouth and inhales everything edible in the neighborhood. My warmblood and fjord are still gaining if I am not careful . Gunnar ripples and they are on drying pasture grass and last years grass hay . Yesterday I was sitting on the patio reading the paper and heard a loud crash and then the horses screamed and went berserk. I could not see Gunnar but the mare was standing in place bucking and kicking and staring out at the field. I finally saw Gun who was running across the field with the pasture small gate around his neck! A calamity, never planned. He finally stopped and shook his neck and the gate dropped off. He turned and tore back like a freight train, with the mare still kicking and bucking, and headed right for the now open gate area. Waving arms did not stop him, of course by now the dogs were barking frantically and I was yelling with the mare screaming. I was afraid the hot wire was still in place across the gate opening but he had already broken that loose. Through the gate he came at break neck speed, slid to a halt on the lawn and began eating. Cheez!!! Everything worked out well amazingly. I could replace the gate as it had lifted off its moorings, I found the hot wire was rusted and had broken but I never put more than thirty feet in each section so they do not run off with 100 feet or more to cut legs etc. That rusting also told me why the hot wire was not working. So, thankfully all was well The ferrier was just here and we had been watching a growing lump on the pastern of my big boy. The ferrier said it is side bone with growth toward ring bone. No lameness yet and he is not ridden. At nineteen the ferrier felt he would go off from something else before the ringbone got him. He suggested DMSO twice a week and then once a week. Anyone else had this problem? I use my old close contact dressage Passier on all my horses. I use a short thick western pad that I have sown loops in to attach to the girth leathers. The saddle has a regular tree. Might have some problems with Gunnar now as he is quite broad. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Back from WY
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like the kind of vacation Meredith that makes you feel you have been on one. With all its frustrations it was great!!! Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
fly collars and leg bands
This message is from: carol j makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Has anyone on the list tried the fly collars and/or leg bands? I would make the investment if I knew they did the job. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond
Re: Saddle fit
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have to agree with the e-mails recently concerning saddle fitting for younger horses. They do grow and therefore could need a different saddle size. Marsha Korose and I recently found a saddle that fits all Fjords very well. It is called an Ansur saddle. This saddle is tree-less, therefore, it does not pinch the horse like normal saddles. It is designed and made of certain materials so that it does not restrict the horses motion. It also gives the rider the feel of riding bareback. We tried the saddle on our very wide gelding, Caribo. He was more relaxed and had more action than normal when we use our ortho-flex saddle. The only problem we found was that it takes the rider a while to get use to the natural feeling of the horses movements. The saddle costs about the same as an ortho-flex. It is sized according to the riders size and comes in petite, small, and medium. Most riders fit the small size. Women seem to like this fact. For more information check out the web site: http://www.ansursaddle.com/. Just another option. Curt Pierce Bristow VA
Re: Back from WY
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote ... We went to King's Saddlery and Museum in Buffalo WY. Oops, King's Saddlery is in Sheridan WY, not Buffalo! And I forgot to mention the Cody Museum ... a wonderful place and an absolute must-see for anyone travelling through the East entrance of the Yellowstone. Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Art Moulton . Alabama . USA
Re: a ride to Libby
This message is from: Carl Sarah Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HI everybody.
I'm near Bozeman Montana and will be trailering horses to Libby. I have
room for Linda Hickman's new filly.
If anybody can help get that filly somewhere near Bozeman MT, I could get
her the rest of the way to Libby.
Thanks! Sarah Nagel
-Original Message-
From: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:36 AM
Subject: a ride to Libby
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi listers...could anyone help me to get a weanling filly{at Julie
Wills
right now} to Libby in September?any ideas appreciated.linda
White Dun Fjord mare
This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please forgive me for the senior moment! Could the person who phoned me last night about Gwen please email me; I lost your email address. Thanks! _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
Re: woodstock
This message is from: Deb Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] The NFHA show in Woodstock is August 25, 26, and 27. The contact person is Allyson Beck who can be reached at 802-457-4403. -Original Message- From: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: woodstock This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have misplaced my northeast fjord horse association calendar (though I found 1997's :) ). When is Woodstock this year? Who is the contact person? I skimmed through the herald, but did not see it there either. Thanks! Krissy
Re: woodstock
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:30 AM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have misplaced my northeast fjord horse association calendar (though I found 1997's :) ). When is Woodstock this year? Who is the contact person? Here is the entry from the NFHR Web site: August 25, 26 27 - Northeast Fjord Horse Association 17th Annual Show To be held at the Green Mountain Horses Association in South Woodstock, VT August 25th will be the Halter classes only. Allyson Beck is the contact person for the NFHA show. For more information please contact her at 802-457-4403. Or email her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or see it there at: http://www.nfhr.com/newsinfo.html Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ammendment to ride to libby
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still looking for a ride out of N.Y. State{for a weanling filly}...but
if I could her to some where in the mid-west,does that open up any doors for
someone to help?.linda
woodstock
This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have misplaced my northeast fjord horse association calendar (though I found 1997's :) ). When is Woodstock this year? Who is the contact person? I skimmed through the herald, but did not see it there either. Thanks! Krissy
Re: Sarcoid
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brenda Simonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a horse that developed what I thought was a sarcoid (multiple actually). The vet that we use doesn't believe in the injections and tried to freeze the first one off. It didn't work. She then cut it out. That one never came back. Then he got one on by the corner of his mouth. We cut that one out too. It came back. Then he got one on the side of his neck. I got frustrated and found some herbal remedy - thuja ointment and hilton ditton herbs. About 8 months after being on the therapy I noticed that both spots were shrinking. They are still shrinking. I don't know if it was the herbs or just time - and he has been off the herbs for quite some time. (Some articles I have read say to leave them alone and they will go away - sort of like warts in humans.) Just my two cents worth. Brenda Yeah Brenda!!! I have been lurking on the sarcoid thread a bit...I too had a gelding who came back to me after a couple of years w/ a well developed sarcoid growth over his eye. I went the route of the injections. VEEERY expensive, and in my case, I think utterly worthless. ( 3 injs. w4-6 wk intervals, I think.)It just dragged on.. I did a search for a homeopathic remedy, and I came upon the Chamisa Ridge catalog,(online). They offered the Ditton mix, man. by Hilton Herbs in conjunction w/ the topical application of Thuja salve.(Yew tree / anti-cancer drug). Arne was in great pain, didn't eat for a day or two after the anti-cancer inj's. (Very bad for a weegee to go off feed!) The thing burst and bled and was generally VERY painful and more disgusting...and did not resolve itself. The Ditton worked like a charm. I sold him after one month into the herbal/homeopathiic treatment, and his new people were very vigilant about his dosing. They called me a month and a half later and told me it had shrunk by half, and 3 mos. later it was ALL GONE! BTW, my vet was very open to trying the homeopahic route, as he was not very satisfied either w/ the anti-cancer inj. Nite! Karen in Carson City, NV (...I am still on a high from taking my 3 yo Lillie out for her first trail ride down and into the river this eve. A star! she was Sooo good!) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
