Re: Since you asked....about the Libby Show

2000-09-16 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
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Ursula Jensen wrote:

 This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lauriesince you asked about Libby let me tell you that you were sorely
 missed...whenever I was looking for a photographer he/she was not to be
 found...oh well, I'm hoping that 'someone' took a few pictures along the way
 and is willing to share...

Ditto that one, for me.  Your photographic skills were missed, Laurie.  Hope
you're doing well.


 Sunday was Obstacle Driving and there were enough entries to split the pairs
 and singles and we had a drive-off in the morning... Brian had the best time
 for the pairs but had a ball down so Orville Unrau took the pairs by
 fractions of sec.

Orville was driving a pair of three year old mares which had been brought down
from the mountain only one month prior (after Blue Earth.)  They were in
snaffle bits and were amazingly well matched.  I understand that both were very
green prior to coming off the mountain.  Well done, Orville!

I drove BDF John Arthur and BDF Magnum in their second go at a cones course,
ever.  They were great together.  Had a little difficulty with a short (5
meter?) serpentine, which we walked, but we went clean with a decent time.  I
thought that we had beaten Jeff Pederson with his pair (after Orville's 1st and
Brian's second place) but was informed, by Jeff, that  that he had, indeed,
driven better than I and had third place.  Now, Jeff and Lisa, where's the
proof?  ;-)   So, I may have to send my ribbon to Utah.  Sorry Jeff, that it was
already packed tight when you told me (yea, right  ;-)

John and Magnum took second place to Brian Jensen's pair in the Team Pleasure
driving.  I was very proud of the boys, as they had to work very hard and long
at the extended trot.  They worked well together, for being a new team.  John
keeps trying to show Magnum how to do it.  Magnum is finally catching on.  Poor
Magnum was not only included in the team competition, he had to compete in Open
Western Pleasure (1st place,)  Open English Pleasure (5th place)  Single horse
pleasure driving (5th place)  and the Log Skid (1st place.)  Anyone, feel free
to correct me - it's all such a blurr.  There was some stiff competition in
the Log Skid.  Brian Jensen and I each touched a cone with our first horses, he
with Nejsa and me with John Arthur.  Pat Malloy and Allen Quimby both had
smokin' scores.  Then a raw rookie, Steve Gioia, did a great job with his mare,
Vind, but touched a cone.  Then along comes Brian with Sambar and a 37 second
run.  Well,  I was not expecting to have Magnum win in the Log Skid, as I had
intended to drive him carefully so as to not be eliminate by stepping out of the
boundary line (as we had in the Team Log Skid.)  So I just let Magnum go at his
own pace, but he was so with me during that run.  It was smooth, felt easy and
very slow.  I was amazed when they announced the time!  I don't think we'll be
able to do better.  As for the riding britches, well, we had so many tack
changes that I didn't have time to change from the previous class.  I expect to
see Brian in a full body suit next year.  Less wind resistance, eh?  Maybe one
of those new fangled Olympic swim suits?  Hm.  How would that look with
the loafers and the hat?   The win in the Log Skid cemented Magnum as the 2000
Versatility Award winner.  Boy am I proud of him!  He was such a trooper, never
asked me why do we have to do this?  He just says, Okay, whatever you want.
He's such a wonderful boy.

John, in the meantime, took Sandy's mom, Sue, in the Novice Pleasure Driving,
where they placed third.  He also took my mom in the Fabulous Forties class,
where they won second place.

Lisa Pederson and I drove our pairs in the Ladies Cart class.  I think Lisa took
second place to Ursula's first?  Beautiful pair, beautifully driven.  Ursula
worked her you know what off to get her boy, Raynor, prepared for his classe.
She did a great job.  You'd hear a strong clip clop clip clop  of horse hooves
coming down the road, and, sure enough, it was Raynor burning off some of his
youthful energy.  It was great to see all of the pairs driving around
everywhere!  So much fun!  Then Brian with the Four, and of course, the
whatchamacallit hitch.  What a hoot!  Woody Hoopes was constantly lunging
three horses abreast to get ready for his classes.  And, oh yea, the Malloy's
daughter (I think she's eight years old) did an incredible job driving their
pair, in the buckboard, to win the junior driving class.  She could really drive
those horses!

There was an awful lot going on.  Our friend Cheryl Gioia won the Adult costume
class riding her mare Vind, who was wearing a refridgerator box painted like a
F(j)ORD car, complete with a fjord license plate and Firestone tires.  Her entry
was, of course Have you driven a fjord lately?  In the Kid's costume class the
Pearson's Toby had his very own cheering section for the costume class, with
someone 

Re: Update on Herbert pony

2000-09-16 Thread Denise's
This message is from: Denise's [EMAIL PROTECTED]


dear debbie,
if they are persimmons, they are very bitter and tannic until they are ripe.
they turn a beautiful orange color.  around here the racoons, deer,
squirrels, possums and people eat them.  my husband even gives them to our
aussie dog when they are squisshy-ripe.  he loves them.  don't be surprised
if your pony developes a taste for them.  they are really sweet when ripe
like a banana.  btw they make great cookies, breads and xmas puddings.
denise in northern calif.




MARE - priced to sell

2000-09-16 Thread Donna Tauscher
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Hello List

I am getting completely out of horses , so I regretfully have my mare
still for sale :

SAME GREAT HORSE BUT
PRICE GREATLY REDUCED FOR QUICK SALE
$2500.00

NFH Gracie (NFHR registered  DNA typed) DOB 6-12-93. 14HH.
 Bloodlines include Astrix  Sungaard .
 6 months professional training in western trail riding and singles
driving in 1997.
 Bred to MVF Ravel in 1997 -
super easy breeder and super easy foaling .
Produced excellent colt in 1998 . Currently open .
Hardly used  in 1998  1999 , but she recently had a tune-up in riding
from a trainer .
She's been ridden and driven much more this summer and she's going
great.

Email or call if interested

Donna Tauscher
Colstrip , MT
(406)748-2262
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Update on Herbert pony

2000-09-16 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think we've found out it is a persimmon tree/trees.  They are fairly common
around here and I've found a picture and the description is pretty on target.
Another Fjord owner on the list thought thats what it was and I have a just
found friend that does landscaping and has grown up here and he'll be able to
tell me.  Just by the look of Herberts manure, he probably only ate one, but
they are just now starting to ripen in fact many are still green, so don't
know if he'll acquire a taste.  We have deer on the property and if the pony
will leave the fruit alone I'd rather leave them for the deer as I've been
told they really like them.  We'd had wild plum and the pony left them alone.
None of the other horses have messed with them.  But the pony/horses come
first so if the trees have to go, they will.  The people we'd bought this
place from had horses and never mentioned the trees. I'm just hoping he ate
the one and decided he didn't like the taste.  They sure are a worry.
Thanks.  Debby

Denise's wrote:

 This message is from: Denise's [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 dear debbie,  maybe they are loquats.  is the leaf shaped like a long
 pointed oval and divided down the center?  where do you live?  how big is
 the fruit?  denise   glad to hear your boy is ok.
 - Original Message -
 From: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 5:35 AM
 Subject: Update on Herbert pony

  This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Herbert is fine, I'm sure it was this fruit.  If anyone can tell me what
  they think it is and its affect on horses, maybe he just got a bad one.
  If they are bad, then they'll have to come down, we got this place just
  to be able to have the horses out, for them.  We have the nice house,
  they get a nice safe pasture.  I took my husband out and we found a very
  few ripe ones on the ground, most are still in the trees and still
  green.  When ripe, its a very pretty orange.  Busted it open and it
  smells just like an apricot, very sweet smelling, we didn't taste it,
  with about six or so of these seeds in it.  The outside of the fruit is
  a little fuzzy, not much.  Anyone know?  I'll have to research this
  definetly before they start falling.  Any chance this taught the pony an
  important lesson?  Thanks for any help.  Debby
 
 




Re: Give Credit Where Credit is Due - BDF JOHN ARTHUR BDF MAGNUM at Libby -

2000-09-16 Thread Arthur Rivoire
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Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -

First of all . . . .

Thanks Ursula for the interesting posting on Libby.  Congratulations to you
and Brian for some great driving.  Wish I'd been there this year.  You
mentioned the driving competition getting fierce at Libby.  Well I guess. .
.  with an FEI driver like Orville Unrau.  Were there any levels other than
Novice and Open at Libby?  Somehow it doesn't seem fair for Training or
Preliminary Level drivers competing against World-Class drivers.  Orville
Unrau has competed in a World Championship, hasn't he? What do you think?
On the other hand, it must have been fun to have him back at Libby, and to
have the opportunity to compete against him.  

~~~

Ursula, you reported . . .
~~

Beymer pulled off an amazing 31 sec single log skid and placed first...
~~

Uh-hum, Ursula, but that was - Beth AND BDF MAGNUM (Gjest x Holly-Solar
daughter)  who did the log skid in the amazing 31 seconds. 

Beth also won the Log Skid in '99 with Magnum's brother, BDF JOHN ARTHUR
(Gjest x Holly).   And in 1999, BDF MAGNUM placed second to his brother in
that class.  
~~~  

Ursula went on to say -

Beth Beymer and Sandy North of Starfire Farm now own two horses with the
Versitility award...Congratulations and 'good -on-ya-girl' such a lot of
hard work
~

Beth won the 2000 Versatility Award with BDF MAGNUM (Gjest x Holly, having
won it last year with BDF JOHN ARTHUR (Gjest x Holly), who by the way is
named after our grandson. 
 

GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE -  Since we (riders/drivers) don't win
horse show awards all by ourselves, I think it's only fair to name the
horses who pull the log, the carriage, or carry the rider.  And in the
interest of educating ourselves about our breed, and what makes a good
Fjordhorse, I think we also need to name the parents of the horses AND the
breeder, if that's not asking too much.   How else can we possibly learn
what the various bloodlines pass on?  

I certainly don't wish to diminish any of the credit and glory that
deservedly goes to good trainers like Beth Beymer and the Jensons.  It's
pretty obvious that the horses can't do it alone.  However, when it comes
down to it, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A GOOD HORSE!!!  And, we should give them
the credit at every opportunity.

I'll tell you, after finishing an extraordinarily busy Nova Scotia Beginner
Driving Vacation season, all of us at BDF were SO GRATEFUL, and so much in
awe of our wonderful horses who worked so well for us the entire season.  

The debt we, at Beaver Dam Farm, owe these horses was so evident,
particularly this year when we were full-up most every week.  All of us
(the people)  got out of sorts from time to time, but the horses,
absolutely never.  They just did their jobs!!!

  It was a wonderful summer . . . But, it was busy and there were stresses.
 Our program is called a BEGINNER DRIVING VACATION, and that's what it is.
Our guests are beginners.  Not necessarily beginner horse people, but all
are beginner drivers, or the next thing to it. 

 ---  Can you imagine what these incredibly patient horses have to put up
with during the ten weeks of our season, each week with new, inexperienced
hands on the lines?  --  I'll tell you, at the end of the season, everyone
in the barn felt like getting down on their knees in front of Gjest, Holly,
Toril, Maryke  Tessa (our driving horses), as well as all the other horses
used everyday for riding lessons and trails.  

Each horse had done his/her jobs unstintingly through the long summer.
They'd never, not once, let us down in any way whatsoever.  None of them
went lame.  None were sick.  None were disobedient.  --  They just did
their job every single day. 

 --- So at the end of the summer, we felt we should kiss their feet, throw
them a party . . . Do something to show our gratitude.  But, all we could
think to do was turn them out on grass for two weeks, which of course they
loved.  ---

The down side of our gesture of gratitude was that at the end of their two
weeks at grass, they've, all four of them, completely lost their svelte
figures gained through months of work.  You wouldn't believe the grass
bellies. 

GIVING CREDIT TO THE HORSES -  This has been a pet peeve of mine for years.
 When I go to horse shows, I like to hear the name of the horse, and
hopefully, a little about that horse. 

I think anyone who has worked horses would agree that not every horse is a
good horse.  There are mean spirited horses, lazy horses, weak horses,
kickers and 

Re: Horse trailer buying info

2000-09-16 Thread Laurie Pittman
This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One of the first things you need to do is decide what you expect to do
with your trailer. Do you only want to haul 1 or 2 horses? Or more? Do you
ride or drive, or both? If you drive or think you will in the future, you
need to decide whether to get a trailer that can accommodate a cart or if
you want to mess with having to load it in the back of the truck. Which
leads to another decision. Bumper pull or gooseneck? Straight load or slant?
Ramp or step up? Steel or aluminum? Lots of decisions. As far as the
condition of a used trailer, pull up the mats and check the floor. Look
underneath too. Check the wiring. Do the lights and brakes work? What kind
of shape is the body in? If any of it needs work, do you want to deal with
it? I'm sure others on the list will have more to add. Good luck!

Laurie





Re: Update on Herbert pony

2000-09-16 Thread Denise's
This message is from: Denise's [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dear debbie,  maybe they are loquats.  is the leaf shaped like a long
pointed oval and divided down the center?  where do you live?  how big is
the fruit?  denise   glad to hear your boy is ok.
- Original Message -
From: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 5:35 AM
Subject: Update on Herbert pony


 This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Herbert is fine, I'm sure it was this fruit.  If anyone can tell me what
 they think it is and its affect on horses, maybe he just got a bad one.
 If they are bad, then they'll have to come down, we got this place just
 to be able to have the horses out, for them.  We have the nice house,
 they get a nice safe pasture.  I took my husband out and we found a very
 few ripe ones on the ground, most are still in the trees and still
 green.  When ripe, its a very pretty orange.  Busted it open and it
 smells just like an apricot, very sweet smelling, we didn't taste it,
 with about six or so of these seeds in it.  The outside of the fruit is
 a little fuzzy, not much.  Anyone know?  I'll have to research this
 definetly before they start falling.  Any chance this taught the pony an
 important lesson?  Thanks for any help.  Debby






Re: Farriers Formula and Fjords

2000-09-16 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have not fed farrier's formula, but my Fjords and other horses do get
timothy/alfalfa cubes year round.  Mostly to keep them busy thinking they are
getting grain.  They also get plain grass hay when the grass is poor.  Or when
the grass is so NOT poor that I can't turn the Fjordies out for fear of
overeating.  We have had no colics because of the cubes but have had some
problems with the grass.

Martie and Kilar in (yes its raining again!) MD





Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #239

2000-09-16 Thread sandra church

This message is from: sandra church [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am new to this list and have learned a lot from reading everyone's emails. 
 I have owned my fjord for over a year and I when I bought him, he was so 
SLOW.  But he passed his vetting and I thought he was just ring sour.  It 
turns out that he was anemic.  So I would suggest that you talk to your vet, 
and possibly have some blood work done.






Horse trailer buying info

2000-09-16 Thread Lynn Binkowski
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Hi,
I'm looking for information on how to buy a horse trailer (what features
are important, how to make sure a used trailer is in good condition,
etc.).  I've seen two different books online that I'm considering, and
am wondering if anyone on the list has a horse trailer resource book
that they like, or if there is a good website somewhere with
trailer-buying how-tos?

Thanks...Lynn in CT





Update on Herbert pony

2000-09-16 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Herbert is fine, I'm sure it was this fruit.  If anyone can tell me what
they think it is and its affect on horses, maybe he just got a bad one.
If they are bad, then they'll have to come down, we got this place just
to be able to have the horses out, for them.  We have the nice house,
they get a nice safe pasture.  I took my husband out and we found a very
few ripe ones on the ground, most are still in the trees and still
green.  When ripe, its a very pretty orange.  Busted it open and it
smells just like an apricot, very sweet smelling, we didn't taste it,
with about six or so of these seeds in it.  The outside of the fruit is
a little fuzzy, not much.  Anyone know?  I'll have to research this
definetly before they start falling.  Any chance this taught the pony an
important lesson?  Thanks for any help.  Debby