It's a BOY
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folksWanted to share my good news, then read John and Martie Bolinski's SAD newsnow I feel bad. John and Martie your loss just makes me all the more thankful for my blessings! My mare is due June 17th. This is her first time. I can tell she's going to go early...she's been HUGE for months, and her udder has filled in and waxed up.I have a feeling it's going to be today/tonight. It's pouring here so I keep her inside even though I had planned to let her birth at pasture. We had plans to go out with friends.so I checked her at 11am, noticed her udder was really round todayand very waxed up teats. I made sure her stall was nicely padded with straw, she had plenty of hay and water, and left. While I'm away I'm thinking tonight will be the nightwhat I'll take to the barn when I get home, how cold it's going to be with the rain, etc. We get home later then plannedit's now after 8pm, when I thought I'd be home by 5pm. I go change my shoes, and coatget to the stalland SURPRISE.he's already here. This first time mom is doing WONDERFULno help, seems to have had no problems I'm sorry I missed it, but sure glad she did OK with out me. He's a BIG boy34inc tall. Strong, can't even see a rib on this porkchop :) I'd say he's been here a few hours...pretty much dried except his bum, and he's pretty feisty! I'm sure glad he's here, even if he was earlyand I missed it! His aunt is due with in the next few weeks too, maybe I'll get to see that one be born. Time to think of a name for the big guy now I'll let you know what we come up with :) Aimee Day Days End FJords, Garland Me.
Re: Birth of 'Torbeau' - long and rambling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Martie, We are so sorry to hear about the foal and the trouble Frida is going through. We will definitely keep all of you in our minds for a safe and full recovery for Frida! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html
Re: Play Day Events at Turlock
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks again catherine regarding the explaination of the pd events. sounds like fun. looking forward to it. now if i can just keep my shoulder in the socket through the summer till turlock. denise
Re: Helmets at Turlock
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thank you catherine, i wear it all the time and now in turlock. can't wait!! have been starting to practice some of the "events" with quinn. shh!!! don't want to pre-clue the competition. yeah, right!! ;~) denise - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > No way would you ever get points off for wearing a helmet at any show I > manage, judge or work at. I would walk out on the show before I would put up > with that...
Helmets at Turlock
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise, No way would you ever get points off for wearing a helmet at any show I manage, judge or work at. I would walk out on the show before I would put up with that. You wear your helmet with pride. There will be many others like you. I encourage helmet use ALL the time. Catherine Lassesen Show Manager - Turlock
More on Turlock
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The divisions in Turlock is for the High Point Awards. You must stay within your division. There are two divisions a person with one horse can go into. The rider has one division and the horse has one division. Pleasure Classes are judged on the horse's manner and pleasure to ride. Equitation Classes are judged on the rider's riding skills and how well the rider keeps a balanced seat, nice hands and good leg positions. This also means the rider needs to know leads and diagonals. Denise, Enter your horse in the division that you feel it is prepared for. IF your horse can walk, trot and canter with ease and with pleasure, then upgrade the division to a higher division. (You can always upgrade but you cannot down grade in divisions.) If you are having a hard time getting a slow lope out of your horse, stick to the walk / trot classes and green classes. Jack Benny is for the older beginner. If you plan to canter, then let the older beginner have this class to themselves. There are only 4 classes for this division. Let the real beginner have a chance to win. (We have many older riders that do not want to lope or canter.) Play Day is just what it says... it is a play day. High Point Awards are different for the Play Day. Questions about the Turlock Show can be address to me individually at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at 541-825-3027. Catherine Lassesen Show Manager
Play Day Events at Turlock
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise, Here are some explanations on the Play Day Events. (I will have the courses up on the website within the next 2-3 weeks. Rules too!) Gamblers Choice: This is a course that has obstacles. Each obstacle has a point value. The idea is to collect as many points as possible before your time is up. There will be rules for "knock downs" and only going through each obstacle once in each direction and other rules for this and that. See the rules that will be posted on the site... Speed Barrels is 3 barrels in a row and you weave around them like pole bending. Single stake is one pole at the end of the arena. You go down and around the pole and back. Barrels is the cloverleaf pattern. Pole Bending will be California Poles. This is weave up and weave back only. Lute Fisk Race is the best... You go down pick up the Fish and come home with it. All of the above are the fastest time wins. Riders will be allowed to canter. Driving will be extended trot as the fastest gait. HELMETS are encouraged for all riders. I hope this helps... As soon as I can get the committee members to get me the rest of the information that I need, the rules and courses will be up on the site to down load. Catherine Lassesen - 2001 Fall Nordic Horse Show Manager.
Re: Birth of 'Torbeau' - long and rambling
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Please keep your fingers crossed that Frida makes it through this >ordeal.<> No more babies for me; I can't take the stress. I guess Wee >will remain >our 'only' baby. He is crying for Frida right now. >Got to go check on the placenta again. > >Martie in MD > I'm sure sorry for your ordeal and sad conclusion Martie! That must have been a terrible experience... makes me extra grateful our foals came safely. We're sure pulling for Frida's recovery here at Bushwhacker's and send our very best wishes, Ruthie, NW MT
Re: weight
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/2/01 11:15:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Good point Karen. Most riders don't weigh more than 200lbs, and horses can be > > 300lbs or more overweight. Same difference! > > Brigid Oh good. If only one of us gets to be overweight, I know which one I choose. (vbg) Gail
Kentucky foal deaths
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Has anything new come of the Kentucky studies into the deaths of foals and >mares there? they have pretty much traced it to TENT CATERPILLARS who have been eating the wild cherry tree leaves and excreting cyanide in their droppings! As well as in the caterpillar itself. The droppings got injested by the mares, etc. Strange, huh? Jean in sunny and warm Fairbanks, Alaska, 75 degrees today with 20 1/2 hours possible sunshine! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kentucky mares
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just talked to a friend of mine in Lexington who said they had discovered the cause of the deaths and abortions there and in the surrounding states. The tent caterpillar was very prevalent this year and so was the wild cherry. The pillars fed heavily on the leaves of the cherry trees (these trees can reach a diameter of several feet and I believe are used for lovely furniture) and then as they migrated their feces spread over the grass and contained heavy doses of cyanide. The horse then ingested and the placentas filled with fluid and the oxygen was cut off to the fetus and the umbilicus could not sustain the foal. The mares and others also suffered blindness and fluid sacs around their hearts. According to Bob some of these have recovered. The owners who kept their horses stalled and fed non local hay or who sprayed for the caterpillars did not have problems. Hope this helps. Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Kai update
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote to Jan about Kai and some experiences here with various allergies. A three year old newly neutered male dog who was tearing out his staples and then the steel wire sutures and beet red around the incision and turned out to be allergic to novalsan. Another was my super sensitive horse Charlie who reacted to a penicillin shot by almost knocking the barn down as he pushed himself against the walls for some relief from the itch at the shot site. I for some reason applied ivory soap and the itching stopped for about an hour and then a second soaping and a shot from the vet stopped it. Has anything new come of the Kentucky studies into the deaths of foals and mares there? For our vets, does it seem as though our animals are exhibiting more allergic reactions than in the past? Jean PS since they graze they get all of the fall out from our life styles. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Lachrymal Glands
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Fjord mare is more bothered by flies than her son or my Arab. I think it is an individual matter. Instead of using (wiping) spray on her face, I use a cream repellant. Sometimes I do have to put some ophthalmic ointment in her eyes if they seem irritated, i.e. if I miss even one day of the cream during the height of the fly season. As for masks, fuggeddaboudit. Baby Boy has such fun de-masking the two mares and then shredding the masks. They are toys, aren't they? Well, I have piss ants crawling out of my keyboard. Excuse me. I must go beat the children. . . Pamela Garofalo I didn't expect to come home to THIS!
Re: Kai update
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My 5 week old youngster has been scratching too, I cannot find the cause, I have tried everything I can think of, but there seems to be no relief for him. I had a visitor today who had seen my youngster scratching, it turns out that she has a Haflinger who is 6 weeks old and has also been scratching to the point that she has cuts all over her body. The vet has been out on several occasions and has advised that he has seen 4 foals already, all showing the same symptoms, but he doesn't know what is causing it. This lady is away to try homeopathy to see if that will work. If anyone has any ideas about this, please let me know. Linda in Scotland, UK
Re: turlock
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> listers, do you get points taken off if you wear a helmet?
Birth of 'Torbeau' - long and rambling
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, Frida finally gave birth to little 'Torbeau' this morning after many hours of labor and much assistance from our vet. We were treating her yesterday for a colic. Did not know she had any problems until she refused to come out of her shed for the dinner bell. She is always a super chowhound. So of course, we called the vet immediately. He gave her banamine, diperone (sp?) and a tubing and she passed some manure and looked better. We were told to check up on her every hour or so through the night in case there was more trouble. so. At about 2:50, John got me up (it was his turn to check her) and told me she had 'something coming out of her anus'. Excited, I ran to see and by the time I got to the barn, she was down and straining. A little head was briefly visible, then withdrawn. Uh oh. Waited for next contraction and sure enough. no feet. Called the vet back at about 3:00. Poor Joe. Had just gotten to bed around 2:00. He said keep her up and walking if at all possible so the baby could reposition itself. Frida was cooperative. She stood and sweated and occassionaly strained and 'cried'. It took Joe 30 minutes to get there. It felt like days! Baby was positioned so his head was correctly turned, but the entiire rest of the body was upside down and his little feet were twisted upward and back. After much effort on the part of both Joe and Frida, the legs were positioned so the baby could be born - still upside down. Frida was a champ - pushing when she was asked (it sure seemed like it anyway) and keeping quiet and standing for the vet to take care of things behind her. Bottom line, little Torbeau hit the ground dead. Joe says he was probably dead at least 2 days before the birthing and his not being viable probably contributed to both the colic and the malpositioning. I think the vet suspected the baby was dead when he was checking on Frida's vitals for the colic and just did not want to say anything. He did not tell us the foal was dead until after it had been completely born. I was at the head for most of the time, so could only see a little of what was happening, but he sure did not look alive. He was a beautiful little brown dun with a head of curly cream colored hair and almost no hair on the rest of him. He woudl have been a beautiful baby boy. Frida nickered to him a couple times when the vet tried to take him from the stall, so we let her stand with him for a little while. She figured things out pretty quickly and let us take him after about 20 minutes when she couldn't get any responses. This was around 5:00. As of this writing, Frida still has retained the placenta. We are checking on her periodically; she looked weak and tired this morning at 7:00 but did get up to eat her 'John Lyons Senior' horsefood - eating completely around her usual ration of timothy cubes. She is drinking well. Please keep your fingers crossed that Frida makes it through this ordeal. I can't stand to think I will lose her as well as the little guy. We will not rebreed her. She did not want to get pregnant this time and we kept after her until she was. We will not do it again. Burial detail will be scheduled as soon as this (*&%^$(*7 rain stops. Oh well, sorry to ramble so. I am now looking at a blurry screen through my tears. No more babies for me; I can't take the stress. I guess Wee will remain our 'only' baby. He is crying for Frida right now. Got to go check on the placenta again. Martie in MD
Re: sick horse
This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We worm every 6 weeks with the wormers that the vet recommended. He said that even on regular schedules, you sometimes get a buildup of 'resistant' larva. A few years back (7?10?) we had a similar problem with our Arab. Nothing since. You just never know. Next time my babies start losing weight, I will check more carefully before things get out of hand. I hope. Martie in MD Mary Thurman wrote: > This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- John & Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This message is from: John & Martie Bolinski > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Jan, > > > The description sounds like our Wee Willy just > > went through, except for the > > scours. None of the bloodwork was conclusive but > > the vet put him on a regimen > > of antibiotics and had us give him a heavy dose of > > larvacidal wormer. > > I don't know if either one worked or if he just > > came through it himself, > > Ditto here. Last spring my niece's Mini went through > almost exactly the same symptoms - with some scours at > first - and the vet treated the horse with antibiotics > and a couple of moderate doses of wormer. The vet's > explanation was that a large buildup of certain kinds > of parasites can cause a systemic reaction in some > horses - similar to the reaction to any infection. He > didn't give a 'why or wherefore' to it, just said it > happens, treated the horse, and the horse recovered > quite well. It did take a couple of weeks for the > horse to be back to 'normal'(eating everything in > sight) again. My niece has been very careful to keep > to a good worming schedule since then, and has not had > the problem again. It only happened to one horse on > her place - maybe this one was extra sensitive to > parasites, who knows. > > Mary > > > > = > Mary Thurman > Raintree Farms > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Horses for sale
This message is from: "briar hill farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Friends of mine are having to sell their Fjords because of health problems. They have some very nice mares, one imported from Norway, some with foals at their sides and some good looking young horses. Also a young stallion. All the horses have been handled regularly and well cared for. Some of the mares have had some training, but have been mostly broodies the last several years. Very reasonable prices. Located in Northern Vermont. Please email me privately for more info and photos. Marcy Baer Briar Hill Farm http://briarhillfarm.com
Kai update
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's been 5 days now since Kai got sick, he has really suffered with scours, high fever, colic, impaction, edema of the sheath and chest, depression, lack of appetite -- and now, hives and severe itching! The hives were a new symptom, on day 4, and are a mystery to all. The itching is so severe that he throws himself to the ground to rub. Kai is slightly better in some regards, he's only mildly colicky now and is starting to regain a little appetite, but he is still a miserable horse. He has seen 4 different vets at 2 different clinics, and nobody can come up with a cause for all this. The current theory is colitis of an unknown origin, but hives don't fit in with colitis. He got a dose of charcoal yesterday (yuk!) to help absorb any toxin that he might have in his gut, but so far that hasn't helped him any. He grinds his teeth so hard I worry that he'll break them. His current prognosis, according to the surgeon he saw yesterday: he might get better within a day, at best, or we may lose him, at worst. Thanks to all who have written with good wishes, it's very helpful. Jan, in central Virginia
nice
This message is from: "M.Bijster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this I found on the site: site: http://www.slidinghorse.nl if If you can start the day without caffeine, If you can get going without pep pills, If you can always be cheerful, ignoring aches and pains, If you can resist complaining and boring people with your troubles, If you can eat the same food everyday and be grateful for it, If you can understand when your loved ones are too busy to give you any time, If you can overlook it when those you love take it out on you when, through no fault of yours, something goes wrong, If you can take criticism and blame without resentment, If you can ignore a friend's limited education and never correct him, If you can resist treating a rich friend better than a poor friend, If you can face the world without lies and deceit, If you can conquer tension without medical help, If you can relax without liquor, If you can sleep without the aid of drugs, If you can say honestly that deep in your heart you have no prejudice against breed, color, religion or politics, Then, my friend, you are *almost* as good as your horse! Author Unknown greetings Marion
