Congrats!
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh Baileys, that baby is adorable! Many congratulations to you and Gwen! I am suffering from foal withdrawal and you lucky folks are looking forward to 3 more. How wonderful! Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: West Nile Vaccine
This message is from: Joyce Concklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It is almost time for Spring shots and I am > debating whether or not to > vaccinate my gelding for West Nile. Are there any > adverse effects from this > vaccine? Most people I have spoken to in our area > of S.E. Wisconsin are > planning on using the vaccine. Any comments would > be appreciated.Joni > Hi Joni, Here in Florida there have been outbreaks of West Nile.We tend to travel throughout Florida and out of state with our Fjords,so we did vaccinate all the horses (including the bred mares). Our Fjords had no reactions to the vaccines. Other non Fjords in our area ,I've heard, had minor swellings and or low grade fevers. I will not hesitate to vaccinate them again.I have met a few people who have lost their horses to this illness. Joyce Clover Oaks Farm Fjords Brooksville Fl. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That baby is really darling. Does she have those "ghost" markings on her hocks?Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: West Nile Vaccine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is almost time for Spring shots and I am debating whether or not to vaccinate my gelding for West Nile. Are there any adverse effects from this vaccine? Most people I have spoken to in our area of S.E. Wisconsin are planning on using the vaccine. Any comments would be appreciated.Joni
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When Bjorken was born and still wet his head was definitly brown. When he dried off he looked very white but turned out light brown. Her muzzle looks mealy to me in the pictures! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska +5F and light snow > >Lori, when she was born last night we thought white, then thought brown like >you, then called Mike May today. It is her muzzle that is throwing us off a >bit, for it is quite dark like her mom's, versus mealy like the brown duns we >have. It keeps on darkening up each time we look at her! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well she looks like a brown dun to me! Certainly not a white dun! Jean in Fairbanks Alaska, with white dun Stella and Stella's light brown son Bjorken who I saw at birth. >We have just uploaded a few pictures of our new filly on our website (address >listed below) in case anyone wishes to take a peek at her! > >Regards, > >Lynda and Daniel Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, Thanks for the nice comments on the filly! Tillie, we hope you and your mare have a very successful birthing in March! We are expecting three more foals this year. Lori, when she was born last night we thought white, then thought brown like you, then called Mike May today. It is her muzzle that is throwing us off a bit, for it is quite dark like her mom's, versus mealy like the brown duns we have. It keeps on darkening up each time we look at her! Amazing how that works. Mike said that sometimes, it is best to wait for a few days, if not until the foal hair sheds, to decide color if there is a question. Guess we will see! Thanks to all, Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: A Foal is Born!
This message is from: "Bob & Holly Tuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations Lynda and Daniel, I'm fairly new to the list, currently own no fjords, but do own a QH/Fjord cross. Am so looking forward to seeing pictures of your new one. Holly from Manitoba and therefore not to far away This little filly is absolutely adorable, we are in love! We still are undecided about her coloring, so we will just have to wait and see. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A how precious, and congratulations to you. Mom looks good also. Awaiting Taffy 's first and hope its as healthy as yours looks. How many more are you expecting?. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totally adorable:)
Re: Foal Pictures
This message is from: "Bob & Holly Tuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Talk about send a message a thou shalt receive. Got to go and look at those baby pictures now. Holly from Manitoba _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Foal Pictures
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, We have just uploaded a few pictures of our new filly on our website (address listed below) in case anyone wishes to take a peek at her! Regards, Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: catching my horses
This message is from: Don Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Bonnie, I know just what you mean! It's spring and they are full of baloney too, and that green grass after a long winter is just too appealing. I have electric fencing and can put up temporary fence and just give them a tiny pasture. I've found by doing that they keep the grass so short that I can leave them out much longer. As the season progresses I can add to the size. I also pregraze the field with the sheep. Good luck. Jane, Maine is warming up! 40 degrees, sunny and melting, YEAH! Bonnie Liermann wrote: So does anyone else have this problem? As soon as they can go out for 4 hours they stop it and become themselves again. How do others introduce new pasture? Thanks for your help. bonnie in Wi
Re: A Foal is Born!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Debbie, Gwen was bred to our stallion, Engar. This little filly is absolutely adorable, we are in love! We still are undecided about her coloring, so we will just have to wait and see. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: A Foal is Born!
This message is from: "Peter & Deb Coggiola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations!! It is nice to know we are "grandparents". To whom did you breed Gwen? This is very exciting. Wish we could be there to see both of them!! Gwen's dam, Lin, will be foaling again in about a month. Deb Coggiola - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: A Foal is Born! > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hello everyone, > > Our white dun mare, FC Gwendellin, just had her first foal this evening, at > midnight! > > We will not know for sure until tomorrow when the foal is dry and it is > daylight, but we believe she is a brown dun. And yes, she is a filly! A > very beautiful, nicely refined girl, and big, too! > > Gwen and foal are doing great, we will let everyone know when we have > pictures up. > > Regards! > > Lynda and Daniel > Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm > White Cloud, MI > 231-689-9902 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: positive reinforcement..
This message is from: Kathleen Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As an educator (people) and long time supervisor - I will add amen to the > positive reinforcement. --people or animals regardless of position. It > doesn't mean relaxing rigor or expectations, just a far more powerful and > expedient way to guide individuals to achieve to the best of their ability. > Unfortunately, it is not always an innate response to keep your cool and > accentruate the positive when what you would really like to do is " twist off > their heads and spit down their windpipes" ( a method of training favored by > some of my colleagues) and most of us need reminding. > On another subject - anyone in the vicinity of Southeastern Idaho- there will > be a driving clinic on Saturday March 2-starting at 9 AM at the Rock-N-Horse > Arena in Pocatello Idaho. Participants $30.00-Observers $15.00. There will > be a program in the morning which will include fitting harnesses - starting > horses to drive and other topics. There will then be times to work with > individual participants throughout the day. There is an indoor and outdoor > arena and there will be two clinicians. In the late afternoon, they will do > some demonstrations on starting green horses - one mule and one fjord. Del > Barney and his son will conduct the clinic. They are part of the > multigenerational Barney family from the upper valley who for many years been > the premier drivers, showers and breeders of draft horses and mules. ( They > also seem to win most of the competitions, from Big hitches to ladies cart > classes).This clinic is not part of a formal club or anything, just a > group > of people who like to drive or would like to learn to drive who got together > and asked for help. It should be a fun and relaxed event and a chance to meet > people with similar interests. Contact me if you are interested and I will put you in touch with the organizers. If you are bringing your horse from a distance, there may be stabling arrangements available. There will also be refreshments. Kathy in SE Idaho - where I see the posts from Fairbanks and wonder if I should move north - this weekend was the first day we had a low that was near zero ( it has been 15 - 33 below forever) and the high got close to 30 ( 0-10 has been all we could manage) Don't let it scare you off from the clinic though- Pocatello runs 20 or more degrees warmer than my house.
Re: positive reinforcement..
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/19/02 10:21:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Well, we may think that our horses should just want to be with us, that we have the right to boss them around with no rewards, they are our slaves, afterall we feed them don't we? But the horse will work for you much better if he knows there is some sort of reward. >> AMEN JEAN!! I have read Don't Shoot the Dog by Karen Pryor and loved it. It was so different from everything else I'd learned about animal training. Took me a while to "get it" but once I did, there was no stopping me. And yes, it does work on people too ;-) Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Re: grasslands/ moving horses
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hooray Loren, I have for years wondered why my non fjords and fjord "ruin" the pasture with their digging. This year has been the worst and I lost a boot going through one hillside area at night. I think I will switch to Source as the northwest supplement may not be working as well. Have to be careful though as my easy keeper Holsteiner gets hives if fed NW suppl everyday. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
positive reinforcement..
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> works with people too! If a friend or relative always complains, gripes, etc when you talk to them or constantly asks you to do things but never returns the favor, don't you eventually want to avoid them? If you boss asks you to do more work after you've done the tasks already set out, but never thanks or praises you for work well done, and just grumps all day, do you feel like volunteering to stay late, or come in on a day off, or want to spend any more time than you have to around him? would you work for nothing, taking verbal abuse, and drudgery if there were no paycheck? No, I think not. Well, we may think that our horses should just want to be with us, that we have the right to boss them around with no rewards, they are our slaves, afterall we feed them dojn't we? But the horse will work for you much better if he knows there is some sort of reward. You can train people, too, BTW. A fun and very instructive book to read is "DON'T SHOOT THE DOG" by Karen Pryor. About training, she emphasizes positive reinforcement and tells how you can deal with such difficult problems as a moody spouse, and impossible teen or an aged parent. Of course the trick here is never let that person know that you are "shaping" their behavior! You simply reinforce anything but what you don't want and try to ignore the unwanted stuff. This is better understood by reading the book! It is in paperback available at Amazon.com for $11.16 Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -5F and light snow, but almost 9 hours daylight! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moving to Manassas
This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In about a year, my husband, my fjord (who drives beautifully, I might add, and has taught me a lot) and I will be moving to the Manassas, Virginia area. I would very much like to connect with people in that area from the list to learn about the area, boarding opportunitities, etc. At this point it is doubtful that we will have a place of our own to keep my baby, but . . . a lot can happen between now and then. We have the possibility of buying an acre or five far enough from the DC area to make it undesireable for commuting (and therefore, hopefully, more affordable). We will be retiring and leaving upstate New York winters behind, moving much closer to children and grandchildren. In this same vein, I have a grade pony for sale. He is a real sweetheart. I purchased him last year from the Baileys in White Cloud Michigan. He's 12 hands, 15 years old, looks like a miniature Belgian, color and all. Rides very nicely. He has been driven as a pair and I will be spending time this spring seeing how well he does solo. If he is as amenable under harness as he is under saddle, it should be a delightful enterprise. If I could take more than one with me, It would certainly be this little guy. I also have an aged (23) liver chestnut morgan/quarter horse cross ((I can't see any quarterhorse), who rides english and western, and thinks he's five. He's an awesome trail horse, but small -- 14 hands (thinks he's 17 hands). Not a mean bone in his body, but very quick and not for a beginner. He will go willingly into the mouth of hell for you -- . I've only had time to ride him once this year. Unfortunately he has never been driven, and I find myself doing a lot more driving than riding these days! He's been part of the family for 16 years, and if I can't find a good place for him, I am afraid I will have to put him down. They are both sound and current on everything. The Morgan cross is free to someone who will treat him well. If you are interested in either (or both) or know someone who is, please have them contact me at 585.367.2861 or e - mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are located 35 miles south of Rochester, New York.
more on catching horses,
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the farrier comes, old Bjarne sometimes will not want to be caught in the corral as he recognizes the truck and farrier, and remembers some discomfort I'm sure, from when he had the shoulder infection. So if he starts to move away from me in the corral, I stop, show him the carrots again, and he will usually stop and stand for me to put the halter on. All my fjords get carrots when they get their feet trimmed. And when Bjarn had his surgery for the staph infection in his shoulder some 11 years ago, I had to give him two shots a day of Gentamicin for four days in a row..I filled my pockets with carrots then went in the stall, let him smell the carrots and told him if he stood for the shot he would get them. He stood rock still for the shots, first left neck, then left butt, then right neck right butt, then repeat over four days. I had to flush the incision twice a day also, which he stood for for the carrots. Also used carrots to get him to put up with sheath cleaning. Some may object to using treats to reward good behavior, but I find it sure makes life easier, and tho I don't always use a clicker, I sort of use it like clicker training. They are not pushy, but quite polite about their treats and are willing to put up with some discomforts knowing that there is a reward when it is done. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still winter, but Adel is shedding handfuls stuck on my gloves when I pet her! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Foal is Born!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy, Thanks! We will keep our fingers crossed for your girl, getting very close, isn't it! Exciting! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
re: catching horses,
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 1 acre pasture which I put my Fjords in for about 2 hours a day in the summer starting with only 1/2 hour at first. I never have any trouble catching them as I always take a fanny pack of carrot pieces and since they are too busy eating grass to run away, I get them to lift their head out of the grass for a carrot piece and put on the halter, then lead them back to their dry paddock where they get a handfull of carrot pieces and a bit of grass hay. They always look for the carrots which does get their interest more than the grass for the moment. Late in the summer when the grass has been grazed short and is not so appealing, I will sometimes leave them out longer and they will often come to me, leaving the grass. If I had a larger pasture it would be a much bigger deal to walk out to get them, but the treats do work..you've got to have something they want more than grass! If you are just going out to drag them from the grass with no reward, and then maybe putting them to work, it doesn't take long for them to learn to stay away from you. And you don't have to feed treats from your hand, if you are opposed to that..My young mare, Adel,tries to avoid the halter, keeping her nose in the grass, altho she isn't running away from me...I will put a couple pieces of carrot on the ground with the noseband of the halter surrounding them, when slip the halter on when she eats them. Yes, I can tap their heads up with the toe of my boot, which works for the others but for her the carrots work better. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, -10F and 2 months before there is grass! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Foal is Born!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/18/2002 10:22:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Our white dun mare, FC Gwendellin, just had her first foal this evening, at > midnight! > Congratulations Bailey's!! I'm finding it very hard to wait for our first of the year, due the first of March! It is from our mare Taffy, who lost twins the last time. Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keswick
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Just an update on Kez. > Sandy has also added Kez at Camp to the > Starfire web site, so if you > would like to see Kez just go to Starfirefarm.com. Sue(and Sandy), Checked out Kez at Camp - what a great addition to the website! Kez IS cute! I find it very interesting to see how individual looking each Fjord is - some are darker brown dun, some lighter(like Kez), plus the occasional white onem, just for starters. Then there's the differences in body language, facial expressions, etc. It's also interesting how much Kez resembles one of the geldings we raised here - he looks so much like Sindar that they could be twins(they look very much alike in the face, and their body language is SO similar). I hadn't ever really seen another Fjord that looked like Sindar so much. I'm curious what Kez's bloodlines are. Sindar has Line and Rusten as grandparents on one side and Gromar and Sammi on the other. He is by Misha, out of Raintree's Flikke. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Answer on the Wormer Tube Problem
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robyn, Thanks for the feedback...in fact as we speak we are looking into this problem. By the way have you looked into EQVALAN Liquid? With it's new doser (N.J.Phillips-Australia) which delivers the liquid that once upon touching the oral mucosa of the horse is absorbed...thus no more spitting out as in the paste. Also EQVALAN Liquid has a better blood-level than the paste. Might want to pass this information along. Warm Regards, Excellence in Equine Health J. T. Chellew Merial Limited Manager Special Projects - Equine Enterprise & Eastern Equine Sales Specialist
re: catching horses, source, email address change
This message is from: "Michele Bigelow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> email address change: I just got a new Internet provider (digital finally arrives in the boonies!). How do I update my subscription? Source: I used to feed source, but when feeding 5, it got expensive. I was also having trouble with the obese Fjord mare who existed on air and always looked like she would drop a foal any minute...she started eating anything she could sink her teeth intobarn, fence posts, poop, rocks, old moldy hay I now feed them 1 cup am and pm of Triple Crown Lite. It has all the vitamins and minerals (like from Source) they need to survive, without having to worry about keeping them on a diet. So far my research shows this is the best grain for my situation. Low protein. Sigi stopped eating poop, rocks and only occasionally knaws on the barn. her weight is still an issue..but that is a story for another day. Catching horses from the new pasture: My guys get a couple of hours of pasture a day inplace of a hay ration. I try to introduce it slowly, and have found that if I halter them first, before throwing them out, I can catch them. Like yours.they do not want to leave the green heaven. There is also a hierarchy, Boss mare first, then young gelding, then older gelding follows us in - like a dog. When Sigi (from above) was here - she just moved to a new home - I could never catch her, even last. So I started doing a "modified john lyons thing" Keep her moving, so she can't eat, until she lets me catch her. After a while, it was not much of an issue. good luck! YMMV > My problem is in early spring when I want to introduce pasture. I am > very careful (maybe too careful) and I only want to put them out on > early grass for 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day and work up to 3. As the grass > get alittle more mature and not so fattening I think my 2 fat ones can > be on for 4 hours. The other two could be on all day. My problem comes > in because after a couple of days of being on grass for only a couple of > hours, they see me coming and do NOT want to get off. That is when them > become hard to catch and nothing works.
Re: fatties and founder
This message is from: sini =?iso-8859-1?Q?sepp=E4l=E4?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Erika and welcome to the list! I'm sure some of the German listers will recognize you - your name popped up right away at the booth of the German Fjord association at Equitana (the horse fair) three years ago. It's a small world. :) I can assure all of you Erika's geldings Simen and Romppu are gorgeous. Erika and Veijo also patiently make the magazine of the Fjord society here in Finland. Thank you for the links as well. Have a nice day everybody. Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html Erika Rehbock wrote: > Hi, > I'm new on list and got excited right away about the dicussion on founder. We > live in Finland and own two fjordgeldings, 18 and 20 yrs old, one is a fatty > and the other one stays about normal size.
they dont last long, sorry
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/18/02 6:10:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Anyone know the average age of the feral horse? >> The BLM here in UTAH says 4-7 years for mares, slightly less for stallions.
new pics
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all ~ We put up a couple of new pictures at the bottom of the Erlend's Kids page on our site. One is a lovely grey daughter, RT Lykke, and the other features the renowned "Willie and Wonka". More coming soon. Oh, I have to add that the dentist pulled Vilde's wolf teeth today, and pronounced them to be the biggest she had seen. She's keeping them for teaching purposes. Our regular vet, Mike, was also here doing breeding soundness exams on Sadie and Silka, and insisted on entertaining us all with his imitation of the sound maggots make while feeding. I had been fortunate enough to have been spared this experience until today. I think he has too much free time Bye ~ Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
A Foal is Born!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, Our white dun mare, FC Gwendellin, just had her first foal this evening, at midnight! We will not know for sure until tomorrow when the foal is dry and it is daylight, but we believe she is a brown dun. And yes, she is a filly! A very beautiful, nicely refined girl, and big, too! Gwen and foal are doing great, we will let everyone know when we have pictures up. Regards! Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
