Re: Prisco in the Big League
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I presume zero is Zero degress Centigrade? Not Farenheit? LOL. Bad enough, tho. We are finally getting spring here in Fairbanks, with sun and 65 degrees FWhat's that in Centigrade? it has been a long time coming..snow and cold just last week, one of the wettest and coldest Aprils on record! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska ..Just a note for all of you enjoying spring .. we had about 3 inches of wet snow in the Ottawa Valley this morning, now melted, but at 5 when I went out to throw hay to the girls, we had hail .. and the temperature is just above zero. The tulips and forsythia look very unhappy with the weather .. and so am I! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BDF Timberline ..
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loved your description of this foal, Carol, -- I like Timberline as a name and Timmy when he's young .. I was taken aback to read your message that he will be one of the last three foals to arrive on your farm. I hope you plan to continue to import and work with the breed, for which you were so justly recognized in Holland, and in terms of promoting this wonderful horse over here, with so many great Gjest offsprong. The landscape would not be the same without you and BDF.
Prisco in the Big League
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow! Lori you are really doing well with that horse and the years of training you have invested are obviously paying off. I'm glad to hear that you feel there is no breed predjudice out there as it may encourage others to do more in all breed shows, whether dressage or otherwise. Good on you .. and congratulations for the arrival of another Cindy baby .. I'm sure he'll be a stunning addition to your growing herd. It does sound like the boys are winning this year .. Bragda is due in early June but quite enormous now and carrying on the left which someone tells me means it's a boy (not sure that these sorts of predictions translate from people to horses, but there's a 50% chance they are right!). Just a note for all of you enjoying spring .. we had about 3 inches of wet snow in the Ottawa Valley this morning, now melted, but at 5 when I went out to throw hay to the girls, we had hail .. and the temperature is just above zero. The tulips and forsythia look very unhappy with the weather .. and so am I!
RE: Contracted Tendons
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odin's problem may have been different. Perhaps an early, correctable, club foot which may be a completely different kind of contraction than the ones we have been discussing? I now remember someone pointing out that he could end up with a club foot. (he has not...his feet are fine at three years old). Gail: This has not been my experience. My experience is after about a week or two the colts are running around on their own with no problems. No special shoes or trimming nesicary. Mark. It seems odd to me that the symptom of his contraction was relatively mild, but it took a long time and considerable maintenance to correct it. Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Contracted Tendons
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A (MED) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail: This has not been my experience. My experience is after about a week or two the colts are running around on their own with no problems. No special shoes or trimming nesicary. When born they can't stand on their toes, their feet are folded over and they are standing and walking on their first knuckel. The tendeons are indeed tight. We gave the drug to the first one that was born that had this problem. The next one we just put in splints. The same with this one. I took the splints off today, it has been 3 days, I may put them back on tomorrow for 3 more days if he isn't walking on his toes very well tomorrow. Mark. -Original Message- From: GAIL RUSSELL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:45 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Contracted Tendons This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question about contracted tendons. Odin was huge, when born to a young, maiden mare. (Vet said of the mare, If she can birth this guy as a maiden mare, she can give birth to a Jeep!) We noticed nothing odd when he was born (though it might have been therebut subtle). However, after a while (weeks, days, I cannot remember) we realized that he was standing on tiptoe. The vet came and glued on a shoe that would prevent him from wearing down his toesand that would, in turn, force the tendons to stretch. This was a foal who had plenty of exercise...but it quite a while, including a reapplication of a shoe and trimming every three to four weeks to maintain the correct foot angle that would allow the tendon to lengthen. Was this the same as the severely contracted tendons others have spoken of? It seems odd to me that the symptom of his contraction was relatively mild, but it took a long time and considerable maintenance to correct it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Girl
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/14/02 8:45:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a wonderful shot of your foal, just beautiful! Red duns can certainly YES I was expecting another brown dun and was very VERY surprised at this little girls red mane! She's a wonderful filly, and I think she's going to be a beauty! :) Pamela
Re: BDF has new colt
This message is from: Krist Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: naming new colt. Timberline sounds good, but we have a good Norwegian Canadian friend who is in his eighties named Torolf. He has done many exciting in his life and is full of fun. Just a suggestion. We named our year old colt Otto after another old Norwegian friend who inspired me when I was young. Otto was born with steeply angled feet, but great legs. Farrier called one of his feet aclub foot and said that we should have tendon cut. Fortunately we discussed this with other Fjord owners and breeders and they said NO NO. We glad that we didn't overact and go ahead with surgery that wasn't necessary as his feet are perfect now. Nice that you have a 'wait and see vet. Best regards, Krist Martinsen - Original Message - From: Arthur Rivoire Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: BDF has new colt This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Morning Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- We have an adorable new colt. Well, actually, he is two weeks old now. Sire is Gjest, of course, and dam is our beautiful Solar daughter, Holly, for whom I have a special affection. I guess it's because she's so nice to me when I ride her. Whatever! I love that mare, and all her offspring. -- The colt is as yet unnamed, and Arthur and I are constantly trying out names on each other. This is our T year, and we wake up every morning reciting T names and T words. The ones I like, he doesn't. Our employees are also coming up with lists. One which we all thought of and rejected was Trojan . . . for obvious reasons. The tentative name, which this morning we all like, is BDF TIMBERLINE. It's rugged and we think, reminiscent of both Norway and Canada. Probably we'll stick with that one. Anyway, this colt is the cutest thing we've ever seen, and we're enjoying him tremendously. For one thing, we're taking time to enjoy him because this will be the last crop of foals we'll have on Beaver Dam Farm. But, he is gorgeous. He's very tall and already fat and muscled. (Holly milks like a cow). He seems to have Gjest's fabulous movement. Really can strut his stuff. And his head is very very pretty with big eyes and little ears. Many years ago when we first imported Gjest, Arthur and I made a pledge to each other. We said that --- When Gjest is ready to retire, so would e. --- Well, Gjest seems to be outlasting us. He is getting old. He's worn down all his molars so can only eat tender young grass and mush food, and even huge amounts of the mush isn't keeping the weight on him. --- However, he doesn't have any other problems. No arthritis, and he seems to be maintaining his libido, although not as vigorous as in years past. --- So, although Gjest might be able to produce for another couple of years, Arthur and I are ready to retire from the baby business. The three foals expected this year will be the last produced at Beaver Dam Farm. All of them will be for sale. BDF Timberline, if that's what Holly's colt will be called, should prove a serious breeding candidate. --- My strong opinion is that the two old bloodlines of GJEST and SOLAR should be carried on in a breeding stallion. And not to do it would be a serious mistake for the breed in North America. Good, old bloodlines should be preserved. -- If Timmie turns out to be like his brothers and sisters, he will, indeed, be a wonderful horse with qualities worth passing to future Fjord generations. --- Right now, we have in our barn, BDF QUASAR, a 3 yr. old gelding (Gjest x Holly). This horse is magnificent. You look at him and you see strength and solidity! I say, and our trainer says that Quasar is rock solid in mind and body. He has huge bone like Gjest, and he has a calm, steady nature that I love. Along with all this substance, Quasar is a magnificent mover. Wow! He takes your breath away. Holly and Gjest have produced many really good performing horses. Horses such as - BDF John Arthur, BDF Magnum, BDF Liv, BDF Naomi. Every one of them quality horses and solid athletes. This is how we judge what works in the breeding business. Gjest x Holly works! Here's a very good colt for your consideration. Regards, Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK, only book in English on the Fjord breed, available from Beaver Dam Farm, $36.95 US includes PH http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/book.htm
Re: Contracted Tendons
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question about contracted tendons. Odin was huge, when born to a young, maiden mare. (Vet said of the mare, If she can birth this guy as a maiden mare, she can give birth to a Jeep!) We noticed nothing odd when he was born (though it might have been therebut subtle). However, after a while (weeks, days, I cannot remember) we realized that he was standing on tiptoe. The vet came and glued on a shoe that would prevent him from wearing down his toesand that would, in turn, force the tendons to stretch. This was a foal who had plenty of exercise...but it quite a while, including a reapplication of a shoe and trimming every three to four weeks to maintain the correct foot angle that would allow the tendon to lengthen. Was this the same as the severely contracted tendons others have spoken of? It seems odd to me that the symptom of his contraction was relatively mild, but it took a long time and considerable maintenance to correct it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Little Girl
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela, It is a wonderful shot of your foal, just beautiful! Red duns can certainly be the result of two brown duns, and they are a great surprise, aren't they? Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
Re: A Little Girl
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/13/02 8:42:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Congrats on your new girl! That's what I thought. I talked to Hallie and she said yep. A red dun could come from this cross of Juniper and Hostar. I have a couple of digital pictures already, but will take some GOOD quality 35 mm today. I wish I could put the pictures on the list, but we know we can't. I'll send you the best one privately now. I wish it was 35mm because the pose is just classical and beautiful. :) Pamela
Re: sick foal
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy, If there was nothing significant on the blood test, then it is probably just a virus. Probably flu or rhino. It should run its course in 7-10days. Steve White, DVM Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: BDF has new colt
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Morning Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia --- We have an adorable new colt. Well, actually, he is two weeks old now. Sire is Gjest, of course, and dam is our beautiful Solar daughter, Holly, for whom I have a special affection. I guess it's because she's so nice to me when I ride her. Whatever! I love that mare, and all her offspring. -- The colt is as yet unnamed, and Arthur and I are constantly trying out names on each other. This is our T year, and we wake up every morning reciting T names and T words. The ones I like, he doesn't. Our employees are also coming up with lists. One which we all thought of and rejected was Trojan . . . for obvious reasons. The tentative name, which this morning we all like, is BDF TIMBERLINE. It's rugged and we think, reminiscent of both Norway and Canada. Probably we'll stick with that one. Anyway, this colt is the cutest thing we've ever seen, and we're enjoying him tremendously. For one thing, we're taking time to enjoy him because this will be the last crop of foals we'll have on Beaver Dam Farm. But, he is gorgeous. He's very tall and already fat and muscled. (Holly milks like a cow). He seems to have Gjest's fabulous movement. Really can strut his stuff. And his head is very very pretty with big eyes and little ears. Many years ago when we first imported Gjest, Arthur and I made a pledge to each other. We said that --- When Gjest is ready to retire, so would e. --- Well, Gjest seems to be outlasting us. He is getting old. He's worn down all his molars so can only eat tender young grass and mush food, and even huge amounts of the mush isn't keeping the weight on him. --- However, he doesn't have any other problems. No arthritis, and he seems to be maintaining his libido, although not as vigorous as in years past. --- So, although Gjest might be able to produce for another couple of years, Arthur and I are ready to retire from the baby business. The three foals expected this year will be the last produced at Beaver Dam Farm. All of them will be for sale. BDF Timberline, if that's what Holly's colt will be called, should prove a serious breeding candidate. --- My strong opinion is that the two old bloodlines of GJEST and SOLAR should be carried on in a breeding stallion. And not to do it would be a serious mistake for the breed in North America. Good, old bloodlines should be preserved. -- If Timmie turns out to be like his brothers and sisters, he will, indeed, be a wonderful horse with qualities worth passing to future Fjord generations. --- Right now, we have in our barn, BDF QUASAR, a 3 yr. old gelding (Gjest x Holly). This horse is magnificent. You look at him and you see strength and solidity! I say, and our trainer says that Quasar is rock solid in mind and body. He has huge bone like Gjest, and he has a calm, steady nature that I love. Along with all this substance, Quasar is a magnificent mover. Wow! He takes your breath away. Holly and Gjest have produced many really good performing horses. Horses such as - BDF John Arthur, BDF Magnum, BDF Liv, BDF Naomi. Every one of them quality horses and solid athletes. This is how we judge what works in the breeding business. Gjest x Holly works! Here's a very good colt for your consideration. Regards, Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK, only book in English on the Fjord breed, available from Beaver Dam Farm, $36.95 US includes PH http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/book.htm
Re: Contracted Tendons
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Morning from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - On the subject of contracted tendons, we've had a few over the years. Out of 65 foals (I think), we might have had six. We've also had a few angular limb deformities. This sounds terrible, but what it means is a foal who comes out with legs that aren't (as yet) correct. In the beginning, we worried extensively about this, and of course, it is something to take seriously. However, I think we were lucky to always have veterinarians with common sense who weren't in a hurry to to anything. -- I remember the first case of contracted tendons. It was BDF Draum, by BDF Torolf, out of the Dutch mare, Uloza. Draum was really huge and all knuckled over, although he could walk. We immediately called the vet who said he'd seen lots like that particularly in big foals. He advised us to do nothing other than turn the colt out in a big area. He also suggested that we take a photo each day and later compare the progress. Draum's tendons loosened, and within a few days he was normal. BDF Jubilee Canada by Gjest out of the Dutch mare, Maryke, was the worst one we'd ever seen. He was so knuckled over at birth he was walking on his knees. He was born outside, and we had to carry him into the stall. But again, within a day he was much much better, and within three or four days he was normal. With Jubilee, because he couldn't be turned out, we started Physical Therapy to help him straighten. With the foal lying in the straw, we took hold of the foot with the left hand on top of the fetlock, and the right under the hoof. Then with downward pressure on top with the left hand, and a pulling stretching action from underneath with the right hand, we loosened or stretched the tendon. --- This seemed to us to help a whole lot, so it's what we do now if necessary. --- A couple of years ago, BDF Remco (Gjest x Stine), was born with just one foot knuckled over. Again, the pulling stretching therapy, and within two days there was noticeable improvement, and within five days, he was normal. We've had foals that have been knock-kneed, and ones whose hind legs were rather splayed out. In all case, a lot of exercise has done the trick, and within a few days the babies were strong and correct. --- In the case of knock-knees, it takes quite a bit longer -- several months, in fact. But, in all cases with our horses, turnout in big big pastures with hills has resulted in strong, straight horses. We've thought of splints, but been disuaded by our vets in favor of plain old exercise which has always worked for us. Best Regards, Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE HANDBOOK, only book in English on the Fjord breed, available from Beaver Dam Farm, $36.95 US includes PH http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/book.htm
Gelding for sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BDF RAN RIENSTEIN - foaled June 21,2000. Sire: Gjest Dam: Riena (dam Kariena - sire Myrstein). RAN has a beautiful head, excellent conformation, great feet with an exceptional ground covering walk and trot. He has been handled daily - has a super calm disposition (not spooky, shy or nippy) - will make someone a good dressage pony, halter horse, CDE prospect. He is 13-2 now and light dun in color. Since moving to Aiken we have been boarding horses and with Mel training Jason for competition as well as some other horses and my having Buttons the Haflinger to ride we have decided to put RAN up for sale. He really is an exceptional Fjord. E mail for further information. Joanne and Mel Goble
Re: foals splints
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren, Thank you. That was nice of you to say. Thank you Steve White for all your attention to the list, I may throw in a different opinion every once in awhile please know how much I appreceiate you caring about our fjords, you are a good man. Steve White Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: A Little Girl
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Pamela, Congrats on your new girl! Sounds like a red dun to us, any pictures yet? Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/
