Re: Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:06 PM 6/9/02 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now the question..Could a yearling (12 month old) stud colt get a two year old (24 month) filly pregnant? we shall see. He sure is struttin his stuff, tho, really thinks he's the man! They're calling the vet tomorrow... (Maybe that's why he ran away?) Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a gorgeous day, sunny, 70 degrees and 22 hours daylight Jean, Remember Saskia Schoofs' 10 month old colt settled her Haflinger mare. I don't remember the age of the mare. Jon and Mary in cool, dry, northeastern Minnesota
Re: bits for Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/10/2002 5:22:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . I have been happy with this but I am wondering what other types of bits people are using for general trail riding and fun riding. I dont have trouble with him spooking, and he is pretty darn good at stopping. When I bought Juniper I was told she liked a mullen mouth. I didn't find her liking that very well at all. She was going fine in a regular D-ring snaffle. But during my dressage lessons I found her a LOT heavier on the right rein, she'd set her jaw against me. My trainer had me borrow her KK jointed bit and she softened s nicely and started giving to me, and raising her back and tucking her nose down, instead of flying around with it in the air. Of course, it was an expensive bit.sigh. pretty close to $100.00. But she loves it. Pamela
Re: Popped Splints/What To Consider When Selling Fjords/Websites
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I have been told that he cannot be shown in any classes that concern confirmation because his splints have popped.. I think it was due to training at too young of an age. As far as I know, you can show him in confirmation classes, and may even do just fine. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Popped Splints/What To Consider When Selling Fjords/Websites
This message is from: Lierin The Lovable Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all, Ok, this might be abit long, as I have a few issues I'd like to address! Please have patience :) I'm curious to know if any of you have had problems with your fjords popping their splints? Trygve is an awesome gelding, but I have been told that he cannot be shown in any classes that concern confirmation because his splints have popped.. I think it was due to training at too young of an age. Next, I think I am going to be selling my baby :(. I wish I didn't have to, but I think I don't have too much of a choice. I'm going into highschool rodeo next year, so I have to start with intensive training in my paint, Phoenix. I'm not really sure what all is considered when people buy fjords. What sort of price (ballpark range) should I be asking? Trygve is a gelding, and 6 years old, as of March 5, and he can be ridden English/Western, basically anything. He's in great shape right now, and kids have ridden him often in 4-H. Total sweetheart! Does need good discipline though, at first, so he knows he needs to listen. Pretty much spook proof, and is comfortable anywhere (Outdoor or indoor). He hasn't been driven yet, but I know he would accept it as if he'd done it all his life. I might even get him started before I sell. I don't really know what else to include. (Naming all of his good qualities makes me wish I could keep him.. :( lol) Could anyone clue me in? Or if you know of any sites that could get me more informed.. Please post. Last of all, I have been working with web design for quite awhile now, and would like to ask if anyone needs their site redone, or even one made from scratch? I will complete them on my computer, and send the files to you. This will be free, as I'd like some practice working with my new HTML editor. What have you got to lose, it's free! ;) All I will need you to do is send me the photos of your horses, if you have any, and you will need to upload them, unless you have a place where it's possible for me to! Thanks alot, Lierin Trygve _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
bits for Fjords
This message is from: sheri kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi friends, I need to buy 1 more bit for an extra bridle for my 5 yr. old fjord gelding. I have a psoasis (spelling) bit that is a very fat snaffle type bit. It has 2 sets of rings on the lower end and 1 set on the top of the main ring if I wanted more leverage. I have been happy with this but I am wondering what other types of bits people are using for general trail riding and fun riding. I dont have trouble with him spooking, and he is pretty darn good at stopping. Only 1 time in 3 years did he spook and leap into the trees leaving me with quite a job of pulling him down. In the meantime I lost my glasses and rubbed my leg on a branch. I hate to use more bit than I need. Any suggestions? Thanks, Sheri and Red
Re: Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/9/2002 11:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now the question..Could a yearling (12 month old) stud colt get a two year old (24 month) filly pregnant? Oh, Yes indeed! I've known of several such cases over the years; not with fjords specifically, but it can happen. I'm sending vibes your way that the two runaway love birds have negative results!! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dave Dave at Gladstone
This message is from: Betsy Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Friends and Dave Mc. How nice to read your post about driving at the Gladstone Event last weekend. I remember my father talking about his Fjord driving adventures there and saying many of the same accolades rewarding his Fjord's manner of accepting challenges, and their resiliancy after the eventing. Yes, we do seem to take them for granite and posts like yours remind us of how important those years of training are, whether they are young or old, it's all for the best of the breed. Your choice to call it quits on a possitive note is also an admirable decision, I commend you. I know the effort and expense it takes to show there and finishing is more important to some, than the consequence to their horses. It's wonderful you took your team to this level and kept reminding folks who watched that Fjord can do the challenge easily and willingly. Hats off to you and Dave H. Sounds like you could use a Park Drag yes, it is still available... Hope everyone is enjoying their Spring and almost Summer... Betsy Bauer www.fjordpony.com Are you shopping for a Fjord? Let me know, I have many wonderful mares and geldings available now.
Worth/Price of a Horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've read most of the pros and cons and have to say that I tend to side with knowing what the price is as a first question. It does save a lot of time. I could spend hours picking an owner's brains about the beauty and lineage of his horse, its potential and so on. But it is all a waste if I am drooling over a horse I in no way could even afford. Then it is just an exercise in fantasy. I believe price does reflect breeding and training as business parameters. You can't reasonably expect to be reimbursed for all your feed and Ivermectrin and hoof trimming. But if you have sent your horse to a good trainer, or taken a series of productive lessons, or originally have a horse with some desirable genetics, it should be the basis of your price. If the Buyer isn't willing to take those things into account then they can find what they are willing to pay for. Asking What is your life worth? would raise the price of many good horses and send many others to slaughter. Horse sports are not to be taken lightly. However, what is flat-out dangerous to a green rider is not necessarily so to an experienced rider/trainer. I believe the seller has an obligation to disclose their animal's quirks and bad habits as well as their wonderful markings and topline. It is all in an effort to marry the horse to the person best suited for it and the other way around. IMHO. Pamela Garofalo
13Th Warrior
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fjords in that movie were loaned from Orville Unrau of Anvil Acres in Canada. I think he was one of the extras doing some riding. I don't know what the larger horses were---Irish Draft maybe? Or grades? I guess when they made the movie, they wanted a weird looking horse to go with the weird looking bad guys. Most people do think Fjords are strange looking, though impressive. If you want a real good look at a couple nice Fjords, rent The Vikings, an older movie staring Kirk Douglas and Ernest Borgnine among others. To see Kirk and Ernest on Fjords was a real hoot and lent authenticity to the director's effort! Pamela Garofalo
Re: Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whew Jean what a lucky find getting the kids back. According to my Vet some years ago, yes a one year old can get a two year old pg. If she was in estrus of course. My 11mo weanling mounted his mother perfectly when she came back into the field with him and she just walked out from under him. Separated them and two days later he was a gelding. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
PMU Fjord cross foals
This message is from: Karen Petty [EMAIL PROTECTED] A while ago there was a discussion on this list about PMU Fjord cross foals. Does anyone know if this is still occurring with Fjords in and, if so, what the current situation is? Thanks, Karen Petty [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif]
foal count
This message is from: Dave Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add one more filly to the count. Fair Acres Ole and Fair Acres Solvieg produced a large gorgeous filly, born last night(6/9/02). Wanda Hase is the proud owner of Solvieg and filly. There is one more mare to foal an Ole baby this year. Hope Carlson is on the list, she bought Evie, from the Weyker's, Evie is in foal to Ole, due middle of June. Hope to hear good news from her soon. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI
Driving Multiples with Fjords
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear list from Brian Jensen; I appreciate Dave McWethys article on his driving a four at Gladstone. From my experience Fjords seem to do very well in multiple hitches of any kind. I am speaking here of Tandem, Random, Unicorn, and four-in-hand hitches. We are readying our four for the first CDE of the season. Presently we are competing at the Preliminary level with the team. The word team in Carriage driving refers to four horses unlike the word team in draft driving referring to two horses. In the Western part of America we find very few fours competing in CDEs. This leaves the T.D.s working only with singles and pairs as they set up the Hazards of section E. Our previous CDE experiences have shown us that one must be very careful and thorough in looking at the gates of the Hazards. Often times there is not enough room provided to turn a four. I have found myself hungup in a Hazard where the groom had to dismount to help get the wagonette past a post. The CDE committee did recognise our appeal afterwards and that gate was given to us. On the cones course make sure you have the right measurements for the L. For singles and pairs it is 3 meters in and 4 meters out. For fours it is 4 meters in and 4 meters out. Usually organisers are very welcoming and helpful to team entrants as it is exciting to watch fours working through the marathon. I would appreciate hearing from other whips who drive multiples in competition, either Pleasure or CDEs. The Digest is a great forum to share our experiences, and assist each other as we learn and grow with the Fjords. P.S. Ursula will also be at the CDE driving her Raynor man as a single. Raynor appears to have fully recovered and is back on springs!!! Brian Jensen Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean- I enjoyed your story of the young Fjords' adventure. Just goes to show (again) what a resilient breed we have. I'm sure you were worried sick! So glad to hear they are home safe. Guess the man thought he was going to start his own wild herd ;-) Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: microchipping
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:38 AM 6/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt What kind of Mixup was that Ruthie? Well been some time back-- particulars are fuzzy =)) and as I dimly recall it was eventually straightened out... I would imagine it could occur, hypothetically speaking, if a person had multiple pellets and inadvertently switched a couple? Ruthie That is exactly why you are supposed to scan the chip BEFORE you implant it make sure the number is the same as on the package then again AFTER you implant it to make sure it is reading correctly. Like most things if the instructions are followed correctly then everything works just fine. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The worth of a good horse
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia ' I'd like to respond to John Eunice's opinions regarding THE LAW OF VALUE . . . ~~~ This message is from: John Eunice Bosomworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... wouldn't make much sense if you were buying a new truck or tractor, for example. It pays to shop for the best deal when you are comparing the same make and model. Yes, of course, if you are comparing the same make and model, but that's impossible with horses as each one is born unique, and has had a different environment and handling. John Eunice say . . . LAW OF VALUE would be hard to apply to fjords as well because some breeders simply ask more than other breeder-- for their weanlings (or others) with the same training. ~ I think the LAW OF VALUE is particularly applicable to horses, and I believe if more people followed it, there would be far fewer disappointed horse owners who didn't get what they really needed and wanted, and very often ended up spending loads of money and a lot of time trying to remedy a bad situation. I've heard these stories a lot. As to some breeders simply asking more than other breeders for their weanlings (and others) . . . . This statement implies that one breeder is asking more than another for exactly the same merchandise. Again, by definition this is not possible with animals. Each one is unique, and not every Fjord can be made suitable to every buyer, no matter how young you get them, or how much training you put into them.That's my opinion after 24 years breeding Fjords. If you find a breeder who's pricing all 2 yr. old fillies alike, then he either doesn't know his horses, or doesn't care about their individual differences, and therefore, couldn't possibly effectively match the horse to the prospective buyer. ~~~ Then one may argue the breeding and so forth ... BUT... there have been cases where the less expensive fjord has scored higher at an evaluation or performed better in competiton. So the higher the price doesn't necessarily mean you will be getting a better fjord. Yes, of course, that can happen, but I don't think there's much argument about the importance of good bloodlines. Bloodlines are what it's all about in consistently producing good horses. At BDF, we've always prided ourselves on developing each horse according to his individual character and abilities, and then finding him the right home, and never being tempted for the sake of a dollar to sell someone the wrong horse. -- We want to have happy, satisfied customers, and at the same time, we need the assurance that we're placing our beloved horses with the right people. With a new owner that is capable of carrying on what we've done with the horse. --- When we sell a horse, that's not the end of it. We delight in staying in touch with most of our custoemrs and following their successes. Presently, at our farm, we have 18 Fjordhorses for sale, and they range inprice from $4500 - $17,000. The difference in price reflects the different attributes of each horse. As for the statement -- How much are your horses? That shouldn't be the first question. Perhaps the buyer would be far better served if he said upfront (which some do) . . . I'm looking for a horse, and I don't want to or can't pay more than $_ ~~ Buying a horse is a big step financially and emotionally, not to mention the personal safety issue. The buyer should make every effort to inform the seller about his personal situation, and personal wants and needs. Hopefully, the seller can be relied on to make every effort to provide a suitable horse, and if he doesn't have anything suitable, he will say so. It's an old adage that the price of the horse is the most insignificant par of the total cost of horse ownership, meaning it costs at least as much to care for a bad one as a good one. Much more often, it costs a whole lot more to deal with the bad horse.And that cost is a lot more than money. It's frustration and sadness and loss of quality time the person could have enjoyed with the right horse. I realize most people are working within a budget, and for some, maybe $4,000 (for example) is all they can spend. To them, my advice would be to spend that $4,000 on a high quality weanling. Dont' try to get a trained 7 yr. old for the price. Considering the emotional, safety, and financial issues involved in horse ownership, it is wise to research your purchase extensively, and buy the very best you can find. Therefore, my opinion stands that How much are your horses? should not be a buyer's first question. -- He should tell the breeder/seller about himself
Re: Where's Lisa????
This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been trying to contact her for about 3 months.LISA? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Where's Lisa Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2002, 12:27 PM This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My timing is usually really rotten for the Sunday night fjord cha, so I don't get to talk to Lisa there very often. And we usually hear from her on the list a bit more frequently. (Lisa Pedersen). I want to hear about the Hostar/Linnea baby! Lisa? Are you listening Pamela
Re: microchipping
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt What kind of Mixup was that Ruthie? Well been some time back-- particulars are fuzzy =)) and as I dimly recall it was eventually straightened out... I would imagine it could occur, hypothetically speaking, if a person had multiple pellets and inadvertently switched a couple? Ruthie
Re: microchips
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:36 AM 6/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Nancy Newport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the nice message Nancy. I will forward it to the BOD for you. The BOD does a lot for the members and don't get a whole lot of thanks for it really. The time is coming to elect the new members for next year. If anyone is interested please let me know I will get your name to the right people. Mike Hi Mike, I will microchip all mine, and think at some point we should require it (make it a package with the DNA test for all foals who will be registered), but as to when, I'll leave that up to the board. This breed registry has done a great job (compared to other registries) of policing the breed so that it improves and doesn't become a casualty of indiscriminate breeding. The registry can also encourage responsible ownership. I think that a micro chip does more good than inconvenience for owners and horses. Just the fact that a horse is chipped makes it a little easier down the line when that horse perhaps falls into poor circumstances and is discovered unknown as has happened on the list several times recently. Those caring folks who find an unknown Fjord and pick it up usually want to know it's history - I know I would. I think our registry is somewhat under pressure to set standards for Fjords in the US if not North America, so I look to the board to think ahead years down the road and try to determine if the policies it sets will be beneficial to our horses. I have not had Fjords long enough to see the big picture, but have confidence in the folks in our registry to hash it out and make good decisions. JMHO, Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: microchipping
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 04:53 AM 6/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It is also irrefutable, numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. Carole Sweet Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt What kind of Mixup was that Ruthie? === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: microchips
This message is from: Nancy Newport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, I will microchip all mine, and think at some point we should require it (make it a package with the DNA test for all foals who will be registered), but as to when, I'll leave that up to the board. This breed registry has done a great job (compared to other registries) of policing the breed so that it improves and doesn't become a casualty of indiscriminate breeding. The registry can also encourage responsible ownership. I think that a micro chip does more good than inconvenience for owners and horses. Just the fact that a horse is chipped makes it a little easier down the line when that horse perhaps falls into poor circumstances and is discovered unknown as has happened on the list several times recently. Those caring folks who find an unknown Fjord and pick it up usually want to know it's history - I know I would. I think our registry is somewhat under pressure to set standards for Fjords in the US if not North America, so I look to the board to think ahead years down the road and try to determine if the policies it sets will be beneficial to our horses. I have not had Fjords long enough to see the big picture, but have confidence in the folks in our registry to hash it out and make good decisions. JMHO, Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: NFHR improvements
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:17 AM 6/9/2002 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I think having a sign on my fence advertising that my horses are micro-chiped and branded is a good idea. We have had some serious horse thieving at times around this area. Jean That is probably a good idea even if they are not branded or chipped. Kind of like having a Protected by XYZ Security on the front of the house. It just might make the would be robber go next door or down the street farther. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: clipping babies fire carriages
This message is from: Nancy Newport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Linda, Having recently has experience with this I would clip them with the hair growth so you can leave some bug protection, probably with a blade that doesn't cut too close. I would also leave the legs and head and ears unclipped also for protection. Neck and belly and all areas that you would normally use for cooling are the most important. I've enjoyed hearing about Hasse, my little Jagr is so bored he just pesters his mother to death, but she is so patient - he only gets in trouble for major transgressions. I on the other hand smacked him really good for nipping the other day and now he is so good for me he seems to have learned his lesson as least for the time being. He still nips and pesters his mother, though, I guess he is making the distinction between humans and horses fairly easily. Dr. Hans, I really enjoyed the photos of the fire carriages, my husband copied the link to send to his fire chief friend. Were those traditional collars on the horses as well? Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: microchipping
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] . It is also irrefutable, numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. Carole Sweet Not quite irrefutable. I once heard of a mixup in chips which caused a considerable stir. Ruthie, nw mt
SV: Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: Anne Berit Nyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boy, it could have been so much worse..If a pack of dogs had chased them,or attacked by a bear, or they had gotten into a bog, or tangled in something...or...or.. They've had the time of their lives! :o) Anne Berit, Norway
microchipping
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, we had our yearling GELDING evaluated last year..e.g. he received his microchipthe evaluation was pretty cool, too, and we will have him evaluated again in a year or two as he matures. Microchipping is a much quicker way to id a horse than is bloodtyping, etc...you don't have to wait for the results. If anything should happen to my gelding, I would MUCH prefer being able to quickly read the chip, than have to call out the vet for bloodwork (ok, so the vet is my husband, but still have to go gather him between appts), or pull hairs to send off, etc. It is also irrefutable, numbers are there for everyone to see, the readers are more readily available than transits to labs, etc, etc. Just my opinion. Carole Sweet
Young fjords have Alaskan adventure
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, we finally found them...Two young Fjords took off from Walt Brunner's farm and roamed the hills and valleys for 16 days. Einar, a yearling stud colt got pumped up with testoterone and chased the two year old filly off into the woods. They weren't seen again for two weeks, apparently hitting the high country outside of Fairbanks, where Grizzly and black bears roam, wolves are common and bogs can trap unwary horses. We worried, I had nightmares about their fate, when there was no sign of them after searching from the air, and on horseback and 4 wheeler on the ground. They could have taken off and ended up over on the next ridge. But finally they were spotted on a remote trail in the hills, but the report was a week old. Today however Walt and his son found them wandering down a woodcutting road, having followed the trail in a loop back to the road. Hey, They looked great! Trim and fit, all muscled up, slick, with the last of the winter coat gone, all that green grass and traveling the hills is a great fitness program! Only a few minor scratches and bug bites. Boy, it could have been so much worse..If a pack of dogs had chased them,or attacked by a bear, or they had gotten into a bog, or tangled in something...or...or.. All my imagination was working overtime. I am so thankful they were found and are OK. Now the question..Could a yearling (12 month old) stud colt get a two year old (24 month) filly pregnant? we shall see. He sure is struttin his stuff, tho, really thinks he's the man! They're calling the vet tomorrow... (Maybe that's why he ran away?) Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, a gorgeous day, sunny, 70 degrees and 22 hours daylight Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
