Fjords for Sale
This message is from: Rich Lipinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I finally have the video of the four horses I have for sale. Just to remind you, they are: NFR Halvar Bluebird Lane Peregrine Bluebird Lane Kestrel Oh Whysper I want to sell them together, hopefully so they can stay together. If someone would purchase them all, I would be willing to sell them for $20,000 US. I think this is a very good price and it really is a price to facilitate a group purchase. If you think you would be interested, please email me, with your mailing address, and we can discuss sending you the video. Rich Lipinski Legend Farms, LLC
West Nile Vacine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of our therapy and other horses were inoculated for West Nile a year ago in the Summer. This included my Hanoverian mare who was bred at the time. We did not have any problems due to the vaccine even in our "Antique" group. What really prompted my doing all of them was we had an arab gelding come down with Potomac Horse Fever last summer. Ball park figure for treatment was $3500 and we almost lost him any way. When discussing the cost and need for West Nile Vaccine our vets recommended it and figuring it cost less to do all 40 twice at $20 each shot than to treat one case we went ahead and did it. Then booster this summer. I am not a great advocate for a lot of vaccines but with our being close to the Susquehanna River, we do have a lot of mosquitoes. Robyn in MD where thank you God it is cooler
Fjord wanted
This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:13:18 -0600 From: Mike Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: looking to buy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear friends, I am seeking a very well broke, gentle, sound family horse that would be suitable for a disabled driver. Prefer a gelding about 8-12 years, 15.2 or under, a willing worker. Please let me know what you have that might suit, with price and all particulars. Thank you, Michael Muir, President United States Driving for the Disabled, Inc. I was just going through my emails and found this one... Thought I should throw it out for the list. Catherine Lassesen
Re: fjord as a child's horse
This message is from: "John Rooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The barn where we board holds a few open events each spring and summer. The spring events are just Dressage and Jumping and the summer event is three phase. When I work at these events, I am struck at the horses that some parents buy for their kids. I see 11 and 12 year old girls on hot blooded Arabs and big TB's riding Pre Novice classes. These horses are often so cranked up at an event, it is an accident looking for a place to happen. Somehow, we get through each event without needing an EMT. :) We are new to Fjords and have owned ours for about three months. Our Fjord has tons of potential but I would never send a child out on him at least at this point in his training. Time will tell if we are good and consistent enough riders to take him toward his potential. He's a wonderful horse and we love him dearly, but he can be a pot when he wants to. :) *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/6/02 at 3:59 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I will be selling my fjord in a few months (lack of time...not fair to >him) >and am very leery of selling him to a child. He did do lessons for a few >years and normally is very good, but he's also a stubborn pigheaded moose >when he wants to be. I found that smaller riders had problems keeping him >going and going in a straight line when he was in one of those moods. >Like >the poem goes..when he is good, he is very very good and when he is bad he >is >horrid. Personally I would like to see him go to another adult. I think >he >would be happier and everyone else would be safer. I do think that fjords >are like all horses. Some are great with kids and others are best ridden >by >an experienced adult. > >Kate >Mom to Baldur the wonder Fjord >Plus two brilliant human children
Re: fjord as a child's horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be selling my fjord in a few months (lack of time...not fair to him) and am very leery of selling him to a child. He did do lessons for a few years and normally is very good, but he's also a stubborn pigheaded moose when he wants to be. I found that smaller riders had problems keeping him going and going in a straight line when he was in one of those moods. Like the poem goes..when he is good, he is very very good and when he is bad he is horrid. Personally I would like to see him go to another adult. I think he would be happier and everyone else would be safer. I do think that fjords are like all horses. Some are great with kids and others are best ridden by an experienced adult. Kate Mom to Baldur the wonder Fjord Plus two brilliant human children
Re: West Nile Virus!
This message is from: "Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While I was at the vet yesterday having the newest "stray" kitty health checked (found her while doing a local parade ...) the subject of West Nile Virus came up. I am located south of Missoula, Montana and this is how my vet summed it up for me: West Nile Virus is close to the Montana border now, but she is not recommending the vaccine at this time, especially if horses aren't travelling. She said perhaps next spring she will recommend. Some of her comments included 1) Two doses of the vaccine are needed, 1 initially, 1 booster. 2) Vaccine is expensive and very new. $20 bucks a shot and it's not known if it's safe for bred mares or not. It's not been around long enough. She would not recommend vaccinating a bred mare at this time. 3) Normal healthy horses are not likely to die from this virus. Older or debilitated horses would be at risk, others would most likely recover and then have immunity. A nursing foal would only have immunity if the dam had been exposed and built up immunity or had the shots (and she's not immunizing bred mares). Just wanted to pass this along. Sarah Nagel Stevensville, MT Ori, Sonny, Kasey, Lara and Lou
Re: West Nile Virus and Donkeys
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if donkeys are affected by the WNV? I haven't seen any > information except on horses. The Brayer (magazine of the American Donkey and Mule Society) had an article in their March/April 2002 issue about some donkeys in Florida that had it; the article mentioned in passing mules that had died of WNV. And, ADMS has been reprinting assorted vet's articles about vaccinating for WNV---these articles only discuss horses, but everyone's presumption is that all equines are affected. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon Whose donkey thinks its her job to keep the Fjords in line!
Keeping Fjords in Shape
This message is from: "mhd/gcc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Two words - GRAZING MUZZLE!! -The greatest contribution to equine dietary management to come along! My gelding wears a grazing muzzle from about April through October. He gets turned out during the day all year round because I found that when he was turned out at night and in during the day, weight management became more difficult. With no bugs at night to deter eating, he apparently ate ALL NIGHT LONG! Even with a grazing muzzle, maintaining a good weight was a challenge. Also, regular exercise. He is ridden or lunged at least 5 days a week. Lots of riding up and down hills, transitions, working over cavaletti. Hope this helps!
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What a shock to hear about Karen Mc. and see how easily one can be hurt by the "fjord", a real horse. Maybe it was not a fjord but any horse can cause problems at over one thousand pounds. I try to avoid any side of my huge 17+ as when he spooks the barn, fence or I go with him or under him. But accidents are going to happen. Just hope this is a curable situation with Karen who is such a great trainer and so involved with the fjord clan. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Keeping Fjords in Shape
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Hope re letting the fjord stay in a dry or not fertile field as the exercise of up and down hills and being free helps keep mine healthy and happy. When the grass comes on I cut out grain and hay and keep a close watch on weight gain. I never plow and reseed my pastures, about three acres. The weight gain can come on in two to three days, suddenly a blimp! Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: keeping Fjords in shape
This message is from: Vivian Creigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cynthia Madden8/6/02 11:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I also give him some endurance feed > with higher protein and fat content (thanks to Vivian > Creigh's suggestions) Higher Fat ,yes, but not higher protein. The best feed I have found to date is Pennfield 10/10 (10%protein, 10% fat) sadly I can not get this feed here in VT anymore, some scrapping between distributors so I am feeding Nutrena Legacy more fat but also more protein. 12% which is fine for mares nursing foals but unnecessary for performance. I think that holding condition is different in each individual Fjord/ or any breed of horse. I have some mares that hold their conditioning for amazing periods of time with only daily turnout and others that start to lose it the day you stop working them. Studies done on subject indicate that fit performance horses lose less than 50% of their conditioning even when stalled for 3 months. BDF Birte was retired years ago and still looks damn good (although too thin now because her little boy is nursing the life out of her) whereas her pair partner Hedi has that definite broodmare shape and tends to fat very easily. My hunch is that horses with high vitamin E stores tend to stay in better shape which is why I supplement Super E in all the working girls. Of the three mares I am currently driving in competiton two always look lean and mean and the other turns into a little dumpling when the grass is in, oddly enough she is the hardest worker of the three. They are turned out for 12 hours on pasture and stalled 12 hours. One of the nicest things I heard at the GMHA CDE from both marathon course designer and vets was what incredible shape my girls were in during and after. It helped that we were down south this spring competing and that we live in the hills of VT. When I am conditioning I drive all three 5 days a week rain or shine and never give them two days off in a row. I am still looking for volunteers for this coming Sunday's ADS Horse Driving Trial here at Rainbow's End Farm. Good food and a terrific learning opportunity for those of you interested in Combined Driving. Back to work. Vivian Creigh
Re: fjord as a child's horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruthie; I agree with most of what you say -- and I, too, am very careful when talking to people who are looking for a "child's horse"... a fjord? Humm? So true about fjords in a group. We have the most docile horses on our place - BUT, when loose in the paddocks I keep a close eye on the Boss Mare, Lena!!! I do not believe she would intentionally harm us - but, when she tells another horse to MOVE they go - and I would not want a child or an older person or ME in the way:) Just the pecking order at work. The paragraph is misleading - never have liked that statement. Linda in MN - nice cool day today
FWD from CD-L: re Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---begin forwarded message--- One of our Silver State competitors, Karen McCarthy of Carson City NV, was injured at her home this past Sunday. Karen was getting ready to meet some others for a drive and was bumped by a horse, fell and fractured a lumbar vertebra. Karen was careflighted to Reno to see a specialist. The last we have heard is that she will not need surgery, but her doctors will put her in a back brace. Karen, we wish you a speedy recovery and don't hesitate to let us locals know if we can help. Nancy Henker ---end forwarded message---
new filly
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am happy to announce that we have a lovely new filly born July 30th she is long legged and cute as a button! Her name will be ytske (ask sue giagiagari the pronunciation on this one) she was born at felicity farm and we should see her home at our little farm in a few days, Thanks sue and Richard! She is out of felicity's tyra and konggard. We will be offering her for sale if there is any one out there interested feel free to contact me privately. One more to go, we are expecting a Hillmar baby from our gray mare Selma early fall. Oh boy this is fun Sam barefoot farm fjords
RE: keeping Fjords in shape
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am just catching up on this thread because I didn't get Sunday's digest and had to go to e-scribe to read it. There is more to keeping a Fjord in shape than diet, unless you are referring strictly to looks. Tank had been on pasture when we lived in Nebraska and I had to take him off. In three weeks he ballooned so badly it took months to get the weight off in the "diet corral." He has been kept off pasture since except for short periods of time. This is not a problem now that I live in the desert in New Mexico. Occassionally I hand graze him on what grass I have but this is more of a mental health issue and a treat. He does fine on a little beet pulp and grass hay and he is looking slim and trim these days. When I am conditioning him for competition, I also give him some endurance feed with higher protein and fat content (thanks to Vivian Creigh's suggestions) However, keeping Fjords in shape also has to do with conditioning. I have heard, and it appears to be true, that unlike light horses, draft breeds do not hold their conditioning very long so it is a constant process to keep them in shape (conditinioning wise) Of course, you have watch these clever beasties, because Tank had me convinced for a long time that I was working him too hard when I discovered by pushing him and observing his recovery rate that he had really become pretty well conditioned but he didn't want me to know! This was when I was getting him in shape for the Arizona CDE last March. I am a little tougher on him now. Good luck! = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com
Re: Web page response, etc
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/6/2002 12:12:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And, yes, the Fjord stallion who was out-crossed should have his ticket > pulled, so to speak, but I doubt he was registered in the first place, or > he > wouldn't have been out-crossed. This stallion may have been registered with the Canadian registry too, which does not have a rule against outcrossing. I know of at least two people with Canadian registered stallions that cross them all the time (unfortunately). Some people will do anything for a buck.. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2002 #175
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:34 PM 8/5/2002 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 31 Jul 2002 at 19:35, fjordhorse-digest wrote: > Seems the guy who bred her loved > Fjords but was too tall(legs too long) to ride one > comfortably. So he bred his favorite 'other' mare to > a Fjord stud hoping for a sturdy offspring with a bit > longer legs. Why stop here, why don't we start cross breeding fjords with minis so that we could get an adorable miniature fjord? Pardon me, but isn't it the case that the stud should have his registration pulled? I thought this was something that we wanted to avoid. I think the owner of this stud should have to bear the consequences of a major violation of the registry rule. The NFHR has not received any report of this Bill. Of course you noticed that the studs name has not been mentioned either. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping Fjords in Shape
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ours are out 12 hr., in 12 hr on drylot. The pasture is all on a hillside. I think that helps keep them in shape. Going up and down the hill all day keeps their muscle tone up. Hope N IL
West Nile Virus and Donkeys
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know if donkeys are affected by the WNV? I haven't seen any information except on horses. To make this fjord related, my donkey keeps my fjords company. Cheers! Karen _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: west nile in colorado
This message is from: karen kathka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry, West Nile Virus Karen --- Jean Gayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Jean Gayle" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Karen in So.Mo. What does WNV stand for? You say, " > and two deaths in > horses from WNV."West Nile Virus? West Nile > Vaccine? Jean > > > Jean Walters Gayle > [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" > Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] > http://users.techline.com/jgayle > Send $20 > Three Horses Press > PO Box 104 > Montesano, WA 98563 Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com
Re: Web page response, etc
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg, I think the PNFPG website is a wonderful idea and I'm looking forward to seeing additional material there. The Norwegian Fjord horse is such a beautifully sweet animal that it's unnecessary to make additional claims about them, even slightly misleading, that might possibly injure someone (and render us liable). At best, and Fjords are the best, horses are a dangerous sport even with every precaution. Sorry to hear you've been "wind swept" into a relocation effort, such a chore! Ruthie, nw mt > This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ruthie, good comments on the web site text. Please submit text that you see > as more appropriate and we will probably put it up there. It's not actually > my baby, but I support it, and am delighted that Helsa Armbrust is putting > out the effort to actually get it up and running. Soon we hope to have > other links on which folks can list their farms, stallions, stock for sale, > etc. All ideas are welcome.
Web page response, etc
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Go Patti, go! You and Silas are having a fine time. And Cheryl, I hope you get a big entry. Sounds like you will do very well. Sadie says "Hi" to Bragda, her mom, and Silas, her 1/2 brother. Ruthie, good comments on the web site text. Please submit text that you see as more appropriate and we will probably put it up there. It's not actually my baby, but I support it, and am delighted that Helsa Armbrust is putting out the effort to actually get it up and running. Soon we hope to have other links on which folks can list their farms, stallions, stock for sale, etc. All ideas are welcome. Meanwhile, we [Doug and me] are still desperately seeking dis-windy property in our area, since our previous deal fell through. I put an ad in the Ellensburg Daily Record that says, "Help, we've upsized and we can't get down!" And have had a few good responses. Anyone want to buy an excellent, well-ventilated horse farm on 16 1/2 acres with a drop-dead view? Great Barn and arena. One of a kind very well-decorated country house. Martha Stewart has not been allowed near the property Right now, we are wondering whether we can squeeze His Majesty, his family and the %$#$@ goat onto 3 1/4 acres that is out of the wind and has a lovely stream. As recent posts have said, lush pasture is not the thing for Fjords, so it might work. And, yes, the Fjord stallion who was out-crossed should have his ticket pulled, so to speak, but I doubt he was registered in the first place, or he wouldn't have been out-crossed. Soon, I am going to write an article on the realities of standing a stallion. It probably ain't what you think, folks. Again, I invite you to check out our brand new PNFPG web site - www.pnwfjordgroup.com See you all at Libby. Bye - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: Kely
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Griet, I am so sorry to hear about your dear horse. I believe you may be meaning "arthritis" where the lining of the joints wears away and gives much pain. Such a difficult but right decision as it was best for her.Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
