Re: Stuffed Fjord Horse
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jer, Maybe Betsy Bauer will see your post, if not pester her as I know we sold this critter at Turlock a year ago, and she knows how to track one downgood luck, KMac Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Original Message Follows From: fred jeri Subject: Stuffed Fjord Horse Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:31:41 -0600 I think a couple of Christmas' ago there was a posting regarding a darling fjord horse stuffed animal. Well, I want one now. Yes, right now. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.
Re: Pictures UP!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a total cutie pie:) Congrats!! Linda in MN
Re: BAILEY
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations!! Wonderful news:) Linda in MN
HOLISTIC HOOF CARE
This message is from: fjordcountry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi to all, Was great to see some hoof discussion in response to Karen's question. I emailed her personally with my opinions and suggestions and must say I was glad to see Monica and Brigid's replies also. We must be careful and open minded while researching something as important as the care of our fjord's feet. As a retired farrier I do want to say in their defense that there are many wonderful, caring farriers who are constantly seeking more education on what is best for the horse. I for one have been a rebel from the beginning and have come to the conclusion that the natural shaped hoof indeed is wide heeled, heavily frogged and short toed. I do want to emphasize that short toed means a short breakover point, not an overly trimmed sole!!! There are now many similar and effective trimming methods including Jaime Jackson's (as on the websites listed by Monica?), Gene Ovnicek's(Newhopeforsoundness website), and Bergy's Hooftalk. There are too many variables to justify saying all horses should go barefoot or all should be shod. Research, discuss and listen, then try what you think will work with your farrier. If he's too much of an egotistical mocho duck then find another one. There are allot of us good ones out there that will work for the best of your horse. On the other hand, please be considerate and encouraging to your farrier. Just a note to mention that we shoe some of our fjords on the front only, keep some barefoot and all go barefoot in the winter. Please email me if you'd like further discussion. Kathi Thompson Rockn KW Ranch
Re: BAILEY
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hooray for you adopting the part Fjord. You must have a big heart and I am sure she will prove herself for you. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Pictures UP!
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, just wanted to mention that pics of Mr Januar(y) Surprise are in the album of same title on my Picturetrail site. Happy viewing! Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nv www.picturetrail.com/weegees
inbreeding coefficients
This message is from: Janet McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve wrote: In any breed that has much close breeding in its history, calculating accurate inbreeding coefficients becomes a job for computer software rather than pencil and paper, but it is something that perhaps should be additionally considered in deciding pairings for breeding. actually, it would be very helpful to have inbreeding coefficients available on the pedigrees of horses on the NFR website. not sure how difficult that would be. Janet W McNally
Janice's contracts
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Janice, now that you've done all the hard work, I guess Saetherblakken won't have much to do! = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Stuffed Fjord Horse
This message is from: fred jeri [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think a couple of Christmas' ago there was a posting regarding a darling fjord horse stuffed animal. Well, I want one now. Yes, right now. I tried searching the archives for this but feel that I am inept in using the archive. I couldn't find anything about any fjord gift items! Obviously, operator error! Can anyone help? Private e-mail or post to the list. Thank you. Jeri in Missouri where it is suppose to get really cold the next few days and the fjords will think that they are back home inIdaho! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm BAAACK!! and Linebreeding, Inbreeding
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK kiddies. The Hall Monitor is back on duty! I returned to Omaha from my extended visit to Las Cruces last Friday, and I just got my Internet service in Omaha restored today. So I'm catching up on my E-mail, and I'm happy to see you've been good while I was out of touch. Actually, I'm glad to see the Inbreeding/Linebreeding thread that's started, because that addresses exactly what I wanted to throw into the still cooling Crossbreeding subject. It strikes me that the Fjord breed in North America is one in which there has been some very close breeding two or possibly three times in the past 150 years. The time when the heaviest inbreeding would have taken place is the Rimfask/Njaarl (sp?) incident. No account I've seen mentions just how many mares were in the pool from which the breed was rebuilt, but the fact that there was just one stallion, means that there was some very close breeding necessary for several generations. Please remember that this happened fewer than 100 years ago. Another period when close breeding was a necessity would be the early years of the breed on this continent when there was only a limited number of stallions available. And I would speculate that there was probably some inbreeding done in the mid-1800's when the Norwegians mostly successfully limited the colors of the breed to shades of dun. Given that there has probably been quite a bit of inbreeding in the modern North American Fjord horse it is certainly a tribute to the vigor of the original stock that, so far as we know, we aren't dealing with any bad results. We should also thank those who had the foresight in framing the NFHR rules to forbid further inbreeding. In any breed that has much close breeding in its history, calculating accurate inbreeding coefficients becomes a job for computer software rather than pencil and paper, but it is something that perhaps should be additionally considered in deciding pairings for breeding. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
BAILEY
This message is from: Glen L. Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone: Glen and I would like to announce that the Fjord/cross filly, one of The Threesome that were rescued in December due to the efforts of Lynda and UEF, will be coming home to us in Crown Point, NY, next week. Glen and I wanted to adopt one and when we looked at the pictures, she was the one who captured our hearts. We made application and were approved. We have named her Bailey to honor Lynda. We operate a Therapeutic Horseback Riding, Driving and Grooming Center for individuals from preschool to adult with developmental disabilities and when Bailey has settled in, she will be joining Shooting Star, Sundag (aka Sunny), Morning Star and the rest of our special horses who work with our Clients. Glen and Pat Porter
Re: lethal white
Here is a link to info on lethal white in Paints. Erika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Overo Lethal White Syndrome
magizine article on Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, It has been a while since we sent a post, however, we have been very busy reading all of yours. It has been some mighty interesting reading and some good information. For a time the amount of posts were coming fast. It would be very nice to meet some of you who are within a few hours drive from here. Lumby, BC is not too far nor Nelson, BC, and we might get to Bend, OR one of these times. We appreciate your wise words. We are writing to mention an article in the Feb/March Farm and ranch living. There is a short article from a Los Osos, California therapeutic riding stable where they use Fjords. A nice picture of a young girl riding a Fjord. Our filly Sanvika, born in May is now a teenager we think. We take her out most days for a walk around the neighborhood, and she loves that. It's snowing in Othello today, and ground is white. Just put down a bale of nice dry straw for the animals to enjoy. Last summer wife Ann decided on some chickens to help scratch around the manure and such, and now we get about 7 or 8 fresh eggs a day. Some mornings the eggs are still warm when they go into the frying pan! All for now--waiting for spring. Dave and Ann Sperl Othello, WA
Re: white Fjords
This message is from: Anne Berit Nyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I'm a bit on the picky side, but isn't there the factor of 'lethal white'? Arabs, T-breds, Paints, sometimes Appys all have it, is this what we want? The foal is born, but dies from an autoimmune problem. Those who know, fill us in. Two white duns give 25% white foals with white eyes, two yellow duns as well (the yellow ones give 50% yellow and 25% red dun too). But I've never heard that it's lethal. Anne Berit Nyland - Norway
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #22
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hurray! The breeding contracts for Saethersblakken are finally finished. I will be sending them out this week to those of you who have requested them. If anyone else would like to review one, please e-mail me and I will be happy to send one to you. Who knew this was going to be such a gigantic undertaking. These contracts have been written, rewritten, proofed and reproofed. Frankly, the writing of War and Peace could not have been this difficult or time consuming. I did not do this alone and have people I would like to thank for their assistance in this endeavor. Tim Jedra of Old Hickory Farm is one fine fellow, for allowing me to review his contracts and borrow ideas from them. I have never met Tim, but hope to someday have the opportunity to thank him in person. He has invited me to email anytime with questions. I can't say how much I appreciate his offer of advice and the help he has given. I think it is terrific that an established breeder would be so helpful to someone newer to this breed. They say Fjord people are wonderful folk and Tim has certainly proven that. Mike May was his usual helpful self. Jan Bonner gave insightful ideas. Drs. Steve and Amy White proofed and reproofed and offered great technical advice. Steve McIlree and Cynthia Madden studied them and made changes that improved them. Steve showed me many miraculous things that my computer was capapble of doing. WOW! A non-Fjord person, Lisa Fudge, manager of Steyska Quarter Horses generously gave of her time and considerable knowledge. She has vast experience shipping semen and gave me all the right numbers to set up accounts with carriers and suppliers. She is just great! The fact that most of my friends now run when they see me headed their way with a sheaf of papers under my arm saying could you just read these for me and make appropriate changes has encouraged me to make this promise. I swear not to infringe on your good will and generous natures from now on, or at least for the next few days. HONEST! Steve McIlree is working on the web-site, it should be ready soon. I will let you know when it is up and running. Thanks, Janice Lee Little Farm Fjords Valley, Nebraska Home of Saethersblakken
Re: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen Emirzian said: 'Would greatly appreciate any input on your experience with Strasser's program or any others which may be similar in keeping our beautiful Fjord feet properly trimmed. Okay, I have to add my two cents' worth here. I keep my horses barefoot and am a big advocate of barefooted horses (with the help of my wonderful Old Macs boots). I like the so-called natural style of trim with a nice wide foot, wide heels and short toe. But I must warn you to be cautious of Dr. Strasser's methods. In my opinion (and that of a great number of veterinarians and farriers), her methods take a good thing to a sometimes dangerous extreme. A good trim should not cause chronic lameness, laminitis, bleeding feet, abscesses, or rotated hoof capsules. I have known all these things to happen to horses after receiving trims from one of Strasser's certified foot care specialists. I did a quick internet search on this subject for you; here are some links you may find of interest: http://www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0602/index2.htm http://www.horseshoes.com/assoc/national/guild/pressreleases/strasser/strass er.htm http://www.hoofcare.com/ukgroups_strasser.html http://www.tribeequus.com/help.html Monica in Nelson, BC
Re: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen Emirzian said: 'Would greatly appreciate any input on your experience with Strasser's program or any others which may be similar in keeping our beautiful Fjord feet properly trimmed. Okay, I have to add my two cents' worth here. I keep my horses barefoot and am a big advocate of barefooted horses (with the help of my wonderful Old Macs boots). I like the so-called natural style of trim with a nice wide foot, wide heels and short toe. But I must warn you to be cautious of Dr. Strasser's methods. In my opinion (and that of a great number of veterinarians and farriers), her methods take a good thing to a sometimes dangerous extreme. A good trim should not cause chronic lameness, laminitis, bleeding feet, abscesses, or rotated hoof capsules. I have known all these things to happen to horses after receiving trims from one of Strasser's certified foot care specialists. I did a quick internet search on this subject for you; here are some links you may find of interest: http://www.equiworld.net/uk/ezine/0602/index2.htm http://www.horseshoes.com/assoc/national/guild/pressreleases/strasser/strass er.htm http://www.hoofcare.com/ukgroups_strasser.html http://www.tribeequus.com/help.html Monica in Nelson, BC
Re: Nordfjordeid Dates
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have updated the NFHR web site www.nfhr.com with the revised dates. If I were making reservations I think I would call to make sure these dates are correct before finalizing them though. Mike OK After searching thru websites and recommending the wrong dates because that was what they said I believe the true dates are the ones published in the Fjordhesten - the official magazine of Norges Fjordhestlag. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Consignment Horses at Beaver Dam Farm -
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - It's almost that time of year again when we accept a few horses to train, market, and sell under our name. --- If you have a quality Fjordhorse that you need to sell, we can help. We have a wonderful staff and facility to train and showcase your good Fjord. Our permanent staff includes Jaimie Benoit who'se been working with Fjordhorses for the last eleven years. -- She understands them. She loves them, and all horses do very well under her quiet guidance. During the summer and fall months, our staff also includes five to seven young horsewomen from Europe. Each one of these girls has studied riding, driving, and horsemanship in the strict European systems passing through the various levels of expertise with written and practical tests. The girls are delightful, enthusiastic, and very accomplished. They do a wonderful job with our horses. Our facility includes huge, safely fenced pastures - Miles of riding and driving trails - A 40 x 80 meter driving dressage arena - 2 riding rings - Quality stabling - Run-In Sheds in most pastures - If you do have a good horse you'd like to sell, and decide to put him on consignment with Beaver Dam Farm --- You can be assured he'll be trained daily, and put in the best possible condition for sale. You can also be assured that your good horse will command a good and fair price depending on his quality, training, movement temperament. -- Very truthfully . . . If you've got a horse that rates an 8 - 10 in those four categories, we've got the customers who are willing to pay a good and fair price for such a horse. -- If your horse isn't an 8 - 10 in all categories, but has no serious problems, you're welcome to call and discuss his individual case. --- Some perfectly wonderful horses aren't in any way perfect! Very high quality horses almost sell themselves. That is, they do if the owner of the horse can attract interested buyers. ---But, the buyer has to know where to look, and has to have confidence that the seller is not only honest in his assessment of the horse, but knowledgeable as well in his assessment. --- We have an excellent reputation for matching horses and buyers --- A reputation hard earned after twenty-four years with Fjordhorses. Each summer, our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacations are booked with six to eight guests each week --- Many of them coming to look at horses for sale as much as coming to learn to drive. -- Our guests spend almost a week with us, and have the opportunity to see each of our sale horses in daily work. We normally accept only five consignment horses at a time, so spots are limited. Please call to discuss details. Thank you, Carol Rivoire
Re: HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Karen- Ahh, one of my favorite topics! First, Dr. Strasser is a she. ;-) Second, there are many barefoot styles and trims, and each group thinks theirs is the best. Don't let this turn you off. You will decide what is best for your Fjords. Now, are they currently shod or barefoot? Do they live outside or in stalls? Any problems with their feet? My 3 are barefoot and live in pasture. You can see them on my web site. Click the Natural Hoof Care and Links pages for more info on barefooting. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html;Fjordings West/A
Nordfjordeid Dates
This message is from: Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK After searching thru websites and recommending the wrong dates because that was what they said I believe the true dates are the ones published in the Fjordhesten - the official magazine of Norges Fjordhestlag. They have the following dates: HINGSTUTSTILLINGAR 2003 - (Stallion Tests) Location: Biri Date: April 25-27 Location: NordfjordeidDate: May 1-3 Location: Nord-Norsk HestesenterDate: May 10 16 stallions will be going thru the testings. This year they are calling in all 4 year olds and 5 year olds. For more information call the Norsk Hestesenter 61 16 55 14 or 61 16 55 00 or email: www.n.hest.no The above is from the Fjordhesten nr 4 - 2002 page 21. Catherine Lassesen Southern Oregon
Re: photo
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] HEY, that would be great Peg! Thanks very much! I would love to see the real guy. Ruthie - Original Message - From: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: photo This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruthie, we have the book and the aforementioned photo of Mr Rosendalsborken. It's much better than the drawing. Will scan and send. Will also post on our web site. Soon. Bye now, Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
HOLISTIC HOOF CARE FOR FJORDS....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fellow Fjord Lovers, After 23 years of various frustrations with many farriers, we have been researching a new method of hoof maintenance for our Fjords. Their wonderful, heathy feet deserve proper trimming by someone experienced with barefooted horses! Has anyone heard of the methods of H. Strasser, DVD? He is said to have a program of barefooted, holistic hoof care under which he actually trains and licenses his own qualified farriers. There is some information regarding his program at www. the horseshoof.com. 'Would greatly appreciate any input on your experience with Strasser's program or any others which may be similar in keeping our beautiful Fjord feet properly trimmed. Thanks, Karen Emirzian Green Meadow Farm Wilbraham, Massachusetts 413.596.9009
