weight of rider for Fjords

2003-10-21 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Shelley-

Contact list member Betsy Bauer at www.fjordpony.com. She does Fjord 
consignment and helped me find my boys.

I think a stout horse can carry up to 300lbs. Maybe the vets on this list 
could elaborate. From my own experience, it seems that balance and good riding 
skills are much more important than weight. I've seen big riders move with 
grace 
and style, staying completely out of the horse's way. I've seen 120lb model 
types bounce up and down like a sack of potatoes ;-)




/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Re: Hello

2003-10-21 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Have you checked out Beaver Dam Farm in NS?  They have
a web site.  I think www.beaverdamfarm.com .  If not
it will come up on a google search.

Tamara
--- Shelley LeSurf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: Shelley LeSurf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi I wanted to introduce myself to the group. My
 name is Shelley and I have
 recently purchased 8 acres of land and will soon be
 moving. My mini ranch
 (tee hee) is 7 minutes outside of Sylvan Lake,
 Alberta. I have 2 children 17
 and 19, a boy and girl. We are wanting to purchase
 horses for our acerage
 and the breed of horse we are leaning towards is a
 fjord. We are rookie
 horse people, my kids go to a horse ranch every
 summer (for the last 12
 years) so they have some experience and I had
 cousins who were very active
 in gymkhana's, I got to groom the horses. So we have
 alot to learn. We will
 be trying to purchase older more experienced horses
 so they can teach us. I
 love everything I have learned about these wonderful
 fjords and I really
 think this is a horse that will fit my family. My
 daughter had a bad spill
 last summer at camp, so she is horse shy right now,
 but I think the right
 horse will help her over her fears. Can anyone tell
 me if a fjord will be
 comfortable carrying a 260lb teenage boy (my son).
 Kyle is a solid football
 player, he is only 5' 6 but I am worried about the
 wieght. Is this okay for
 the horse? Are they able to carry that weight
 easily? Also I have emailed
 and wrote to two breeders here in Alberta and
 neither has replied to me. Is
 there anyone on this list who is in my area who
 might have some horses
 available that meet our requirements, and that don't
 mind answering our
 questions. I look forward to hearing from all you
 experienced fjord people.
 
 Thanks
 
 Shelley Le Surf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Fjord rescue list?

2003-10-21 Thread Tamara Rousso
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 So you can hear about all the cute little fuzzy
 fjords that need rescuing on the fjord rescue
 board. I'm sure someone will post the address of it
 for you.
 

There is a fjord rescue group??  Yes, please post the
URL.  And for the record I am interested in rescue
posts to this list too.

Tamara

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once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descart



RE: Hello

2003-10-21 Thread Casanova, Julie
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Hello Shelley,

I have a Fjord mare for sale if you are interested. I live in Lakeville
Minnesota. Let me know if you are interested and I can give you more
details.

Julie

-Original Message-
From: Shelley LeSurf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:07 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Hello


This message is from: Shelley LeSurf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi I wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name is Shelley and I have
recently purchased 8 acres of land and will soon be moving. My mini ranch
(tee hee) is 7 minutes outside of Sylvan Lake, Alberta. I have 2 children 17
and 19, a boy and girl. We are wanting to purchase horses for our acerage
and the breed of horse we are leaning towards is a fjord. We are rookie
horse people, my kids go to a horse ranch every summer (for the last 12
years) so they have some experience and I had cousins who were very active
in gymkhana's, I got to groom the horses. So we have alot to learn. We will
be trying to purchase older more experienced horses so they can teach us. I
love everything I have learned about these wonderful fjords and I really
think this is a horse that will fit my family. My daughter had a bad spill
last summer at camp, so she is horse shy right now, but I think the right
horse will help her over her fears. Can anyone tell me if a fjord will be
comfortable carrying a 260lb teenage boy (my son). Kyle is a solid football
player, he is only 5' 6 but I am worried about the wieght. Is this okay for
the horse? Are they able to carry that weight easily? Also I have emailed
and wrote to two breeders here in Alberta and neither has replied to me. Is
there anyone on this list who is in my area who might have some horses
available that meet our requirements, and that don't mind answering our
questions. I look forward to hearing from all you experienced fjord people.

Thanks

Shelley Le Surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Hello

2003-10-21 Thread Casanova, Julie
This message is from: Casanova, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shelley,

You may want to check out the Canadian Fjord horse club. Here is there link 
http://cfha.org/

Julie




-Original Message-
From: Shelley LeSurf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:07 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Hello


This message is from: Shelley LeSurf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi I wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name is Shelley and I have
recently purchased 8 acres of land and will soon be moving. My mini ranch
(tee hee) is 7 minutes outside of Sylvan Lake, Alberta. I have 2 children 17
and 19, a boy and girl. We are wanting to purchase horses for our acerage
and the breed of horse we are leaning towards is a fjord. We are rookie
horse people, my kids go to a horse ranch every summer (for the last 12
years) so they have some experience and I had cousins who were very active
in gymkhana's, I got to groom the horses. So we have alot to learn. We will
be trying to purchase older more experienced horses so they can teach us. I
love everything I have learned about these wonderful fjords and I really
think this is a horse that will fit my family. My daughter had a bad spill
last summer at camp, so she is horse shy right now, but I think the right
horse will help her over her fears. Can anyone tell me if a fjord will be
comfortable carrying a 260lb teenage boy (my son). Kyle is a solid football
player, he is only 5' 6 but I am worried about the wieght. Is this okay for
the horse? Are they able to carry that weight easily? Also I have emailed
and wrote to two breeders here in Alberta and neither has replied to me. Is
there anyone on this list who is in my area who might have some horses
available that meet our requirements, and that don't mind answering our
questions. I look forward to hearing from all you experienced fjord people.

Thanks

Shelley Le Surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Therapeutic Riding

2003-10-21 Thread Sofia Jagbrant
This message is from: Sofia Jagbrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Betsy,
For a year I went a youngleadercourse, there we talked about people with
handicap. In next year, when I study my last upper secondary school year, we
will work with a project in a hole year. I am very intressed what horses
could do for helping handicap people, ecspecially kids. I have heard the
expression Therapeutic riding before, but I have never really understood
what mean with it. Maybe could you explain? I would be very nice. I have a
thrre year old fjordgelding whitch I think could be a good handicap horse
here in Sweden sometime, so I want like to hear more.

Regards Sofia

- Original Message -
From: Betsy Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #245


 This message is from: Betsy Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 At Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, we are still looking for a Fjord to
 use in our riding program.  If any of the rescue horses would be older and
 suitable, we would be interested.  Or if anyone knows of a Fjord that
would
 be suitable and very affordable, please email me.  Thanks.  Betsy Moore,
 Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, Harrisburg, IL



Hello

2003-10-21 Thread Shelley LeSurf
This message is from: Shelley LeSurf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi I wanted to introduce myself to the group. My name is Shelley and I have
recently purchased 8 acres of land and will soon be moving. My mini ranch
(tee hee) is 7 minutes outside of Sylvan Lake, Alberta. I have 2 children 17
and 19, a boy and girl. We are wanting to purchase horses for our acerage
and the breed of horse we are leaning towards is a fjord. We are rookie
horse people, my kids go to a horse ranch every summer (for the last 12
years) so they have some experience and I had cousins who were very active
in gymkhana's, I got to groom the horses. So we have alot to learn. We will
be trying to purchase older more experienced horses so they can teach us. I
love everything I have learned about these wonderful fjords and I really
think this is a horse that will fit my family. My daughter had a bad spill
last summer at camp, so she is horse shy right now, but I think the right
horse will help her over her fears. Can anyone tell me if a fjord will be
comfortable carrying a 260lb teenage boy (my son). Kyle is a solid football
player, he is only 5' 6 but I am worried about the wieght. Is this okay for
the horse? Are they able to carry that weight easily? Also I have emailed
and wrote to two breeders here in Alberta and neither has replied to me. Is
there anyone on this list who is in my area who might have some horses
available that meet our requirements, and that don't mind answering our
questions. I look forward to hearing from all you experienced fjord people.

Thanks

Shelley Le Surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



looking for a fjord

2003-10-21 Thread Bonnie Liermann

This message is from: Bonnie Liermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Cindi :  Welcome to our list and the world of Fjords.  I own 2 fjord 
geldings but nothing for sale.  I live in Manitowoc -- not too far away.

Good luck in your search.  Hopefully you can find a nice experience fjord.

Bonnie



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2003-10-21 Thread Will Sandy
This message is from: Will  Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Helloi have Forsale a 3 yr old Fjord gelding,,he is broke to ride and
drive,,asking $6000.00,,if interested contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] leave
your name,phone number,,and best time to call,,,Thanks



RE: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #245

2003-10-21 Thread Casanova, Julie
This message is from: Casanova, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BETSY MOORE,

I have a Fjord mare that I am selling for a reasonable price. Are you
interested?? Email me and I will be happy to give you the details and
photo's of her.

Julie

-Original Message-
From: Betsy Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:52 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #245


This message is from: Betsy Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, we are still looking for a Fjord to
use in our riding program.  If any of the rescue horses would be older and
suitable, we would be interested.  Or if anyone knows of a Fjord that would
be suitable and very affordable, please email me.  Thanks.  Betsy Moore,
Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, Harrisburg, IL



apology to the list

2003-10-21 Thread rdstai
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My apologies to the list.
I've been reminded privately, in a very nice way, that there had been a 
discussion some months ago that rescues should be discussed on the appropriate 
list and that there was one for exactly that.  Would someone that knows that 
particular list post it, I'm sure it was posted then but maybe we have new 
members that don't know it or some that have missplaced it.  I also would like 
to apologize to the list for the recent post by Joel, I seem to have stirred up 
a hornets nest and would not want to be responsible in any way for such emails 
as was posted to this list.  Such responses, including mine, should have been 
taken private.  Thanks for understanding.
Debby



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #245

2003-10-21 Thread Betsy Moore
This message is from: Betsy Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, we are still looking for a Fjord to
use in our riding program.  If any of the rescue horses would be older and
suitable, we would be interested.  Or if anyone knows of a Fjord that would
be suitable and very affordable, please email me.  Thanks.  Betsy Moore,
Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, Harrisburg, IL



Mare for sale

2003-10-21 Thread Casanova, Julie
This message is from: Casanova, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Cindi,

I am asking $3,500.00 for her. But I am telling you that if you are really
interested in her I would be willing to make you a deal. You sound like me,
I am 41 years old and have always wanted a horse of my own. I bought my
first horse when I was 36 years old. I bought a Fjord stud colt out of the
mare I have now. He is wonderful. I enjoy him so much I just can't begin to
explain it. So when his mother came up for sale, I leapt at the opportunity
to purchase her. But I have found that owning two horses has drained my time
and my resources. I board them and it just isn't working out. It is really
expensive to have two. It doubles everything, vet, farrier and board,
tack.the list goes on. So I decided in all fairness to my gelding, I
must sell the mare. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her, and if I had
a farm of my own, I would keep her. She is worth her weight in gold for her
foals. She is sweet and loving and loves to be petted and groomed. She loves
having attention. She is the first to the gate and she will follow you
everywhere. 

Her name is Lissie, she is registered with the NFHR out in New York, she is
DNA typed for breeding and is a wonderful broodmare and mother. she stands
about 13.3hh and is about 1000 pounds. She hasn't had any professional
training for riding, but she does ride on trails and she has done some
ground driving. I sent my gelding to a professional for cart training and it
worked out great. The trainer called and told me I did an excellent job in
his ground work, made his job a whole lot easier to do the cart work. So I
am sure she would take to the cart with no problems. If you are going to
take lessons for riding, I am sure your trainer would put some time on
Lissie to get her going solid for you. You two could have your lessons
together, that is what I did with my gelding. The trainer put 30 days on him
and I took lessons on her lesson horse for 30 days and then my gelding and I
started lessons together ( where I rode him) and it turned out great! We
have been riding together ever since. 

Lissie has been a pet all of her life, it sounds like she would love the
attention you would shower her with. I would love to talk to you more about
her if you would like to know more, please either email me or you can call
me at 952-469-1869 my name is Julie I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Julie



Re: Brag alert - Quinn's debut at Novice Level eventing

2003-10-21 Thread Emma Bicknell

This message is from: Emma Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dagrun,

That sounds fantastic, big hugs for Quinn. Stories like that really 
inspire me to get out there and do things with my ponies!  Congratulations!




Em

Dagrun Aarsten wrote:


This message is from: Dagrun Aarsten [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello everybody,

I haven't kept up with the list lately but hope horses and people are all
doing well.

This Saturday Quinn and I made our debut at Novice level eventing at Travis
Air Force Base equestrian center near Sacramento. Last week, Quinn and I
seemed a little out of sync, and we somehow couldn't agree on simple things
like canter transitions, so my expectations for the dressage were just to
keep him as light and responsive as possible without going for perfection. I
was very relieved when everything suddenly seemed to come together during
the warm-up.

We had a few moments where he was tempted to jump the rail again, and as all
the other riders, we struggled with the serpentine pattern (two loops only,
and the arena was more 15x40 than 20x40, which makes that almost
impossible), and had a hint of a canter stride on a trot diagonal, plus a
little sideways step in the last halt, but scored a respectable 64.5 % (35.5
penalty points).

Then off to walking the cross-country course. Novice Level is 2'6 to 2'9.
Somehow, at Travis, the jumps always seem a little smaller than the maximum,
so I was expecting a nice little course similar to the things we practised
in the clinic two weeks earlier. Not so! Jump number 3 was a wide table,
just hanging in the air (no groundline at all) about 2'9 tall and
probably as wide(deep). I looked at it and realized we have never seen
anything that tricky before. Jump 5 a-b-c was a coffin-type combination.
with a log jump, then a short down slope to a ditch with water, then a short
up-slope to a plank wall. And so it went. One solid oxer that was also close
to maximum height and width, again no ground line, on a pretty heavy uphill
slope. All in all, a total of 18 jumps over a long course, most around the
maximum height we've ever schooled and 2-3 past what we've ever practiced.
Oh well, I decided to give it a try and then retire if Quinn lost heart or
got really tired.

So off we went, Quinn was rather slow over the first 2 jumps, so I made sure
to wake him up before the scary table number 3 - he was quite surprised, and
we had a conversation more or less like this:
Dagrun: please jump this terrifying table here in front of us
Quinn: OK, OK, WHAT! That one??? (smaller jump to the side of it)
Dagrun: YES
Quinn: Do you think I can do that?
Dagrun: I know you can!
Quinn: OK ma'am. Jumping. Hang on!

After that I knew this could be good. We cleared the coffin without faults
as the FIRST HORSE that day, almost all horses stopped at the water, except
Quinn plus the last rider of the day (just behind us), I was already getting
tired but very excited, off to a combination of two enormous cross-rails
made with fat logs, big but very inviting. Then up the hill to the BIG
oxer - a tap of the whip at the approach to tell him that we needed some
extra impulsion for that one, and he flew over, and so it went. Every time
he wasn't too sure about a jump he slowed down to have a look and then
hopped over, so it wasn't always nice and fluid but WHAT A HORSE! After the
fake water complex (no water in it, only sand), Quinn threw in a huge buck
for fun, and I heard one of the fence judges shouting something to me (I
should have listened) before we galloped on. From there it just went better
and better. Towards the end I slowed him down to a trot coming downhill, for
safety AND to let him catch his breath a little before the last couple of
jumps. When I pointed him to the next jump, he picked up a balanced canter
and sailed over. I was in ecstacy as we galloped over the finish line and
everyone was cheering. Quinn has always been a favorite at Travis but last
time he did baby jumps and never showed them that he can actually jump like
that.

Stadium jumping was another story. Quinn knows a little too well that these
thin striped poles knock down pretty easily. The more substantial a jump is,
the better he will jump it. So I knew this would be interesting when most of
the jumps were single poles(!) hanging alone in the air at 2'6 or so. Add
to that a horse that is still breathing after cross-country... and a rider
that has finished most of her focus energy supplies... It wasn't too pretty,
but we came around with only 3 knockdowns, although we touched at least 6 of
the 11 jumps. Quinn took it all like a Sunday walk in the park, which is not
necessarily good when the goal is jumping, and he happily knocked down pole
after pole! The pole from jump number 10 was balancing on top of his knees
for 2-3 strides (or that's what it felt like) but that didn't scare him from
jumping the final number 11 with the same cheerful attitude! Oh well, not
too bad, all things considered.

Then, finally, someone (=the 

trailer recommendations?

2003-10-21 Thread Karl Jerrie Froelich
This message is from: Karl  Jerrie Froelich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We have 3 fjords (2 in possession, one to p/u this spring) and hope to get 1
more.  We're looking for a slant-in, gooseneck trailer to hold the 4, and camp
out of at events.   We don't really know the various makes (other than we
can't afford a featherlight ;-) ); any trailers for sale or recomendations?
Which brand is decent quality  value?  What kind of things should we watch
out for?  We've found a '90 Logan 4-horse slant in fully padded for $5k US; is
that good?  I'll be pulling it with a Ford F-250.


cheers,

Karl  Jerrie