RE: your opinions on footing for arena?
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, what a wonderful site! Thanks for sharing it. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:56 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: your opinions on footing for arena? This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 might be a little deep. See here: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:S-O_g15K114J:pubs.cas.psu.edu/freep ubs/pdfs/ub038.pdf+%22arena+sand%22++CRUSHED+BLUEhl=enie=UTF-8 for a pretty complete discussion of arena construction and materials. One of the best I have ever seen. Gail Russell Forestville CA
RE: your opinions on footing for arena?
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 might be a little deep. See here: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:S-O_g15K114J:pubs.cas.psu.edu/freep ubs/pdfs/ub038.pdf+%22arena+sand%22++CRUSHED+BLUEhl=enie=UTF-8 for a pretty complete discussion of arena construction and materials. One of the best I have ever seen. Gail Russell Forestville CA
Re: your opinions on footing for arena?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are constructing an arena for riding, I can give you some information that I used from the USDF Handbook for arenas and footing that was helpful when I made my arena. Of course, a lot of the decision is based on what you can spend. I leveled the arena area flat with a bulldozer. Then I had 6'' of decomposed granite (DG) put down and compacted until it is very hard. At this point you can put a slight slope in the arena, no more than a gradual foot or so, so that it drains. Finally, on top of the DG, is 3 of sand. The sand should be the kind, like cement sand, so that it does not contain any stones. The footing should never be deeper than this or you are inviting sprains and injury. I don't think the gravel is a good base for the sand because it will work it's way up to the sand and move around as well.
Re: your opinions on footing for arena?
This message is from: shawna smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl, I live 45 miles SE of Portland so I know what you mean by RAIN. Our property is flat and there is no drainage-water literally stands in some areas all winter. Anyway, last summer, after talking to several people with outdoor rings, I put in the base for my round pen. I put down landscape cloth with about 8+ inches of sand on top. The cloth was about $300.00 and is very easy to cut and work with, even for one person. I was told it is better not to put this cloth on top of muddy ground. I too, had contemplated a gravel base with shavings or hog fuel, but was told that the rock will work up thru to the top and that the wood breaks down and can get mushy. With sand, it may cost more initially, but should last a long time. Hope this helps. Shawna We're located in the town of Snohomish, about 30 mi. North of Seattle. Snow freezing is not a problem, but rain - lots of it - is. Karl
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/28/2003 2:24:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry - there was no name on the cute fjord christmas card, or label on the shipping box to give me a hint (very clever! :-) ... so no idea whom to thank! In the future this might not be such a good idea. You should always put a return address on the gift. You can use a friend's or relative's instead of your own, but don't send letters or packages without one. Too many things can happen and you'd be surprised at the stuff that sits undeliverable and unclaimed at the P.O. : ( Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FOR SALE: Winter prices (package deals on 2 or more) 9 yr. old Gelding (Gjest/Solar bloodlines) 13.2 drafty, 1100 lbs. Great trail horse. Good ground manners. Trailers well, good for farrier, UTD on vaccines, worming coggins. He can get a bit spooky, but is manageable $3,800 19 month old gelding (Rei Halsnaes/Bronse bloodlines) Very handsome, Correct, lovely mover.. Standing 13.2 right now. Easily reaching 14 h. at maturity I think. Med. bone/build. He's UTD on Vaccines, worming coggins. Good for vet and farrier. Leads and ties well. $2,800 2003 Colt (gelding) D.O.B. July 2nd (almost 6months) This little guy is SOOO cute. He is on the short side (compared to some of the other babies born here) but he's got plenty of size everywhere else. (He looks like he'll be short and drafty.) He's got a lovely temperament and personality, VERY low key about everything. Nice conformation. Will be or needs to be gelded before sale. I'm not asking a lot for him. Will make someone a WONDERFUL fjord baby to raise. $1,500 2003 Filly D.O.B. July 2nd also. This is one I planned to keep, but due to the abundance of horses here right nowI've decided if the right home comes along, she can go too. She is really special. We call her little miss attitude She is hot stuff and she knows it :) Not as low keyed as her half brother above, but very smart. She is a full hand taller then he is, but I haven't got the actual measurements in front of me right now. She is as nice or nicer then what I saw shown at the VT show this Aug. (weanlings) I own her ONLY full sister who's 4yrs, and she is just lovelyto look at and work with. I was thinking maybe she'd turn out as well too, and what a matched pair I'd have.. Not really something I NEED at this time though. I would love to see her go to a good home, maybe be shown etc. She has some nice bloodlines as an added bonus. (Rei Halsnaes/Bronse) She's a full sister to the yearling gelding listed above. They are BOTH really special horses. $3,000 All horses are brown duns and reg. I'm located in Central Maine. Serious inquiries please. Thank You. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aimee Day P.S. For those that wrote to me this fall about my 4 wheel antique Norwegian wagon - I've stored it away, for the winter, but in the spring I plan to sell if for just what I paid for it - $3,000. Those that are interested, I'd be willing to hold it with a small deposit.
your opinions on footing for arena?
This message is from: Karl Jerrie Froelich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey list - I've been lurking for some time, but now I'm going to jump in take the plunge. We're owners of 3 fjords (out of Trinity Fjords, thanks Brian Ursula). I'm currently fixing up our arena, and need some opinions on footing. We're located in the town of Snohomish, about 30 mi. North of Seattle. Snow freezing is not a problem, but rain - lots of it - is. We bought our farm last june, and with it came a small outdoor riding arena. It's already fenced; I just need to fix the footing - there isn't any; and it's quite muddy slippery. My plan was to dump enough gravel in it to make it flat, and then several inches of wood chips on top. I'm wondering how deep the soft stuff on top should be? I can pull a number out of the air - say, 6-8 inches, but that's not based on anything. I want it to be thin enough so that it will drain, but not so thin that there's no cushion from the gravel. I would be very interested in hearing what some of you have done dealing with this issue. Kindest thanks, Karl As an aside, I have the following to relate: We currently have two of our fjords, the other is still at Jensen's. Through special arrangements we now have the pony my kids have been getting their lessons on. He's a 14 yr old apaloosa (sp?), and he is way more work to keep than our two fjords. He's picky about food, requires special diet, and doesn't like nasty weather. He IS well suited for children, which is why we have him but boy oh boy, give me a fjord any day. I don't care for these high-maintennance animals. K
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This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, One of my favorite cousins sent me this. I Hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. [It does have horses featured in it...] Happy Holidays to you all, Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord My Favorite Christmas Pa never had much compassion for the lazy or those who squandered their means and then never had enough for the necessities. But for those who were genuinely in need, his heart was as big as all outdoors. It was from him that I learned the greatest joy in life comes from giving, not from receiving. It was Christmas Eve 1881. I was fifteen years old and feeling like the world had caved in on me because there just hadn't been enough money to buy me the rifle that I'd wanted for Christmas. We did the chores early that night for some reason. I just figured Pa wanted a little extra time so we could read in the Bible. After supper was over I took my boots off and stretched out in front of the fireplace and waited for Pa to get down the old Bible. I was still feeling sorry for myself and, to be honest, I wasn't in much of a mood to read Scriptures. But Pa didn't get the Bible, instead he bundled up again and went outside. I couldn't figure it out because we had already done all the chores. I didn't worry about it long though, I was too busy wallowing in self-pity. Soon Pa came back in. It was a cold clear night out and there was ice in his beard. Come on, Matt, he said. Bundle up good, it's cold out tonight. I was really upset then. Not only wasn't I getting the rifle for Christmas, now Pa was dragging me out in the cold, and for no earthly reason that I could see. We'd already done all the chores, and I couldn't think of anything else that needed doing, especially not on a night like this. But I knew Pa was not very patient at one dragging one's feet when he'd told them to do something, so I got up and put my boots back on and got my cap, coat, and mittens. Ma gave me a mysterious smile as I opened the door to leave the house. Something was up, but I didn't know what. Outside, I became even more dismayed. There in front of the house was the work team, already hitched to the big sled. Whatever it was we were going to do wasn't going to be a short, quick, little job. I could tell. We never hitched up this sled unless we were going to haul a big load. Pa was already up on the seat, reins in hand. I reluctantly climbed up beside him. The cold was already biting at me. I wasn't happy. When I was on, Pa pulled the sled around the house and stopped in front of the woodshed. He got off and I followed. I think we'll put on the high sideboards, he said. Here, help me. The high sideboards! It had been a bigger job than I wanted to do with just the low sideboards on, but whatever it was we were going to do would be a lot bigger with the high sideboards on. After we had exchanged the sideboards, Pa went into the woodshed and came out with an armload of wood---the wood I'd spent all summer hauling down from the mountain, and then all Fall sawing into blocks and splitting. What was he doing? Finally I said something. Pa, I asked, what are you doing? You been by the Widow Jensen's lately? he asked. The Widow Jensen lived about two miles down the road. Her husband had died a year or so before and left her with three children, the oldest being eight. Sure, I'd been by, but so what? Yeah, I said, Why? I rode by just today, Pa said. Little Jakey was out digging around in the woodpile trying to find a few chips. They're out of wood, Matt. That was all he said and then he turned and went back into the woodshed for another armload of wood. I followed him. We loaded the sled so high that I began to wonder if the horses would be able to pull it. Finally, Pa called a halt to our loading, then we went to the smoke house and Pa took down a big ham and a side of bacon. He handed them to me and told me to put them in the sled and wait. When he returned he was carrying a sack of flour over his right shoulder and a smaller sack of something in his left hand. What's in the little sack? I asked. Shoes. They're out of shoes. Little Jakey just had gunny sacks wrapped around his feet when he was out in the woodpile this morning. I got the children a little candy too. It just wouldn't be Christmas without a little candy. We rode the two miles to Widow Jensen's pretty much in silence. I tried to think through what Pa was doing. We didn't have much by worldly standards. Of course, we did have a big woodpile, though most of what was left now was still in the form of logs that I would have to saw into blocks and split before we could use it. We also had meat and flour, so we could spare that, but I knew we didn't have any money, so why was Pa buying them shoes and candy? Really, why was he doing any of
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