Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #16

2004-01-22 Thread Onnak2000
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Wanda,
There is an 8 month old Fjord colt for sale in Michigan that is a white dun 
for $2200. I would love a white dun. They are basically white with all the 
black in the right places. I want to call about him. The Baileys own him and 
they 
are down sizing. He has probably been handled a lot.  I don't need to do this. 
Onna



Re: Please No More

2004-01-22 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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mom wrote:


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I don't want to offend anyone, but I just about have the people on my e-mail
list trained not to send me this sort of thing--and unless the wish is for
the ideal fjord horse to be delivered to my door step :^) this has nothing
to do with Fjords
 

I was surprised to see this junk on the LIST too and hope that this 
someone just made a mistake and it won't happen again..


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: fjord crosses

2004-01-22 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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The Mercers wrote:


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Is NFHR actively doing anything about those who own stallions/mares that
are bred to other breeds?


 


I believe the horses are kicked out forever, but don't quote me on this.

--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: WN vaccine problems

2004-01-22 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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In a message dated 1/22/2004 4:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
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You must be very careful when reading anecdotal reports like these. 
Birth defects and abortions can occur anytime.  When you think of all the

things that must happen at very specific times in fetal development it
amazes me that we have as many normal babies (animal or human) as we do!

   


Hi,
I did not mean to stir up a hornets nest on this one.  And many thanks 
to all who have set me straight on this group of whatever you want to 
call them.  Can I have permission to send in the answers say from Steve 
to this paper so a lot of horse people who do read this won't  give up 
the shots?  I once again thank the LIST for telling it like it really is 
and giving such a quick response.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



where is the sun?

2004-01-22 Thread brass-ring-farm
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Jean in Alaska - We just got back from a cruise to Antarctica and I found
your sun! It rose there at 2:30 am and left at 11:30 pm. Very difficult
to get used to, don't know how you cope, though I am sure at this time of
year you are looking forward to it.
Valerie
Columbia, CT



Re: WN vaccine problems

2004-01-22 Thread DBLDAYFARM
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In a message dated 1/22/2004 4:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> You must be very careful when reading anecdotal reports like these. 
> Birth defects and abortions can occur anytime.  When you think of all the
> things that must happen at very specific times in fetal development it
> amazes me that we have as many normal babies (animal or human) as we do!
> 

Thank you STEVE
That article is like 2 years old and they still remain to have any proof to 
back it up.  I wish it could be removed from the internet totally.  My vets 
here at our clinic were just LIVID when I told them about it. They even took 
information to the convention last winter to see if they could get it stopped.  
It 
has caused a lot of people to not give the shots and in turn will allow the 
spread of the disease and loss of a lot of horses needlessly. A horrible, 
painful death from what I have heard not something I would wish on anyone.

Lou   
 
The horse doesn't care how much you know,  Until he knows how much you care
 
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit 
there." --Will Rogers 



Please No More

2004-01-22 Thread mom
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I don't want to offend anyone, but I just about have the people on my e-mail
list trained not to send me this sort of thing--and unless the wish is for
the ideal fjord horse to be delivered to my door step :^) this has nothing
to do with Fjords, riding, driving, breeding, feeding, vetting, or anything
else.  Please, please don't post this sort of thing on this list.  Thanks.
Sue Freivald in chilly but sunny Northern Virgina.

On another tack, Curt Pierce and Joe Glick with their stallions Ulend and
Gryla did a marvelous job presenting and representing the fjord horse at the
Maryland Expo.  Martie and John Bolinski are knowledgeable and enthusiastic
ambassadors for the breed as well, and it was a pleasure to meet and work
with them last week end.



> sound nuts, but Dennis got this the other day and sent it off. About 10
> minutes later a really good financial windfall happened for his son Sean
> who he had sent it too as well.  One of the people he sent it to was
> responsible for the windfall. > > > AN IRISH FRIENDSHIP WISH > >
> > > You had better send this back > > Good Luck!! >
> > I hope it works. > > > > May there always be
> work for your hands to do; > > May your purse always hold a coin
> or two; > > May the sun always shine on your windowpane; >
> > May a rainbow be certain to follow each rain; > > May
> the hand of a friend always be near you; > > May God fill your
> heart with gladness to cheer you. > > > > OK, this is what you
> have to do > > Send this to all of your friends! But - you
> HAVE to send > > this within 1 hour from when you open it! > > >
> > Now.Make A wish!! > > > > I hope

> you made your wish! Now then, if you send to: > > 1 person ---
> your wish will be granted in 1 year > > 3 people --- 6 months >
> > 5 people --- 3 months > > 6 people --- 1 month >
> > 7 people --- 2 weeks > > 8 people --- 1 week >
> > 9 people --- 5 days > > 10 people --- 3 days >
> > 12 people --- 2 days > > 15 people --- 1 day >
> > 20 people --- 3 hours > > > > If you delete this after
> you read it...  you will have 1 year of bad luck! But... if you send it 2
> > > of your friends you will automatically have 3 years of good
> luck!!! :-) > > > > > > > > > > >



Re:WNV vaccine problems

2004-01-22 Thread DBLDAYFARM
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In a message dated 1/22/2004 4:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> There is a letter to the editor in my Country Today paper with  a 
> website for the vaccine problems that I think may be interesting to take 
> a look at.  Go to 
> 
> 

Interesting yes.. facts ?? NO.  Heartfelt emotions run high, but no proof in 
the puddin' so to speak.  Veterinarians around the U.S. were really upset at 
this group last year and there are tons of articles that include it in their 
body.  
Please read it if you like, but also read "the OTHER side" too before hasty 
decisions.

 Colorado State University - News, Events & Media 
 Western Producer - Vets calm fears about vaccine - August 28, 2003 edition 
 TheHorse.com: Your Online Guide to Equine Health Care 
 Durango Equine Veterinary Clinic 
Lou   
 
The horse doesn't care how much you know,  Until he knows how much you care
 
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit 
there." --Will Rogers 



RE: fjord crosses

2004-01-22 Thread The Mercers
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Is NFHR actively doing anything about those who own stallions/mares that
are bred to other breeds?

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA - where the sun actually shown for a few hours today!  :-)



Re: Fjords are gaited, right?

2004-01-22 Thread Jean Ernest
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Sorry, but Fjords are generally just 3 gaited: walk, trot (jog) and canter
(lope) unless you consider the gallop the fourth gait.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska +10F and light snow

>
>Here's a silly question - all this time, I thought fjords were a type of 
>gaited breed (like Icelandics, etc).  Do I have that wrong?


>

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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NWSS tonight - Jan.22 "Dancing w/Horses"

2004-01-22 Thread RkyMtnTrls
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Well, am about to leave the house for the Stock Show (Denver, Colorado) - 
*really* looking forward to seeing the fjords tonight in the "Dancing with 
Horses" !

Sher in Colorado



Fjords are gaited, right?

2004-01-22 Thread RkyMtnTrls
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Here's a silly question - all this time, I thought fjords were a type of 
gaited breed (like Icelandics, etc).  Do I have that wrong?

(sheepish smiles!)
Sher in Colorado



Fjord Stallion

2004-01-22 Thread MNoonan931
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Hi All, Hope winter is treating you well. 

This year will be a big one for us. Our mare Tone'  (Torungen and Malla) is 
currently learning to pull a cart./wagon. She is doing so well. She is 10 ,so 
it's about time.  Then we have her filly Tonetta (netta for short) (Rusten and 
Tone') who is 3 this year. She is gonna learn it all.   Then we have our two 
year old Stud colt that I  have been keeping quiet about because I am still 
waiting to see how he matures. He's a beauty and BIG.
 WHR Elsker (Eric and Opal).

Here are some questions for you

1. At what age do you all spend the time and $$ to evaluate?  What percentage 
of 2 year olds are even given a blue?
I don't know whether to wait until he is 4 and rides and drives to spend the 
time and $ to evaluate. or Do I bring  him to Libby this year at 2 for just 
conformation.  We are only 5 hours away

2. What age do you start breeding your stallions?  3? 4?  I think 2 is too 
young for myself to consider and I want another year to see if he is worthy of 
keeping his jewels. So far so good and he is a sweety to work with.

Anyway. We have been having a blast pulling wagons around in the snow with 
Tone' and the Belgian mare she is paired with by the trainer.  We are gettting 
twice a week lessons and I can harness and hitch all by myself now  LOL 
Although my main problem seems to be judging the width of the wagon and turning 
radius. but Im getting it!!

Michele Noonan
Stevensville, MT
The Beautiful  Bitterroot Valley



[FjordPony] Equine for Sale

2004-01-22 Thread BaileysFjords





Hello everyone, 
 

We are restructuring our farm and with the exception of our "seniors", are selling our entire Fjord and equine herd.
 
We are offering the following Fjords for sale, our website will be updated shortly with details and pictures:BNF Ingwine: 8 month old Norwegian Fjord white dun colt.  VERY rare, only 1 out of 4 white dun Norwegian Fjord stallion potentials in North America!  $2200.BNF Buri: 5 month old Norwegian Fjord brown dun colt.  Cute little guy, will be quite tall for a Fjord!  $1200.
 
Renate: 8 year old brown dun mare, carries the red dun gene, one of Gene Bauer's stock.  In foal.  $2200.
 
FC Gwendellin:  6 year old white dun mare, rare, first generation import.  Professionally trained to ride and drive, makes a wonderful broodmare.  Open.  $6800.

Other equine offered for sale:
 
Baby: 10 month old draft molly mule.  Percheron/Mammoth.  Very people oriented, going to be VERY large girl!  $350. Rocky: 17 year old blind leopard spotted Appy.  Trained Western, neck reins, trail.  Perfect for the timid or beginning rider!  Steady, calm, will not go into a trot until trust is developed between him and his rider.  $350.  
 
Buddy:  9 year old Shetland gelding, white and tan pinto, rides and drives, road safe.  With child's Western saddle, bridle, harness, and cart, $1400.
 
Tootie Fruitie Violet: 7 year old white jennet donkey. Personable and friendly.  $350.
 
Matilda:  10 year old miniature/Shetland sized mare.  Dun with striping.  $150.
Please respond privately either at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at 231-689-9902. Lynda and DanielBailey's Norwegian Fjords and Bailey's Transportation ServiceWhite Cloud, MI231-689-9902FAX: 775-383-6813[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.htmlhttp://BaileysTransportation.com




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Re: WN vaccine problems

2004-01-22 Thread whitedvm
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You must be very careful when reading anecdotal reports like these. 
Birth defects and abortions can occur anytime.  When you think of all the
things that must happen at very specific times in fetal development it
amazes me that we have as many normal babies (animal or human) as we do!

There are always reports like these anytime a new product comes out on
the market.  Remember the Qwest wormer reports?  I have vaccinated
hundreds of horses and many of them pregnant mares and I have yet had any
adverse reactions.  This is the same report that I am getting from other
veterinarians across the country on my equine vet email list.  If this
vaccine was truly causing a problem, I should have seen something by now.

In 2002 Nebraska had over 900 reported cases of WNV.  In 2003 there were
only 40+ reported cases.  I think this says a lot about how well the
vaccine is working.

Steve White, DVM
Sport Horse Veterinary Service
Gretna, NE



Re: fjord cross

2004-01-22 Thread Hope Carlson
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Hello all, I came across this fjord cross advertised:
http://www.horseclassified.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi  It
sounds to me like one of the PMU youngsters being put
to good use.  Interesting.

Thanks, Catherine, for your post on the elections.  How does the
teleconference meeting
work?  Does everyone have personal computers capable of it?  Is it an open
meeting? I
am just curious, have no special agenda.

Starting Evie on cows.  We are getting two steers this weekend, red
angus/shorthorn cross.
 From the farm two doors down, long time tight breeding program, w.
traditional feeding
program so feel pretty safe in the midst of all the BSE scare stuff.  Anyone
with experience
starting a 9 yr old mare, not quite under saddle a year yet, on horse eating
cattle, please email
me.  I'd like to stay in one piece.

Thanks, and good winter riding,

Hope
Harvard, IL



WN vaccine problems

2004-01-22 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Hi,
There is a letter to the editor in my Country Today paper with  a 
website for the vaccine problems that I think may be interesting to take 
a look at.  Go to 


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: Character in foals

2004-01-22 Thread HorseLotti
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I enjoyed the post re dominant mare - jittery horses,

In my "herd" of 5 horses my mare is the alpha.  I, too, seperate into two 
groups.  Sven and Lena (alpha) do well togethershe being the dominent one, 
but, in a kind way.  When she is in with all the horses she not only fusses 
about her space but that of the other fjords. 

I can also put Hasse (son of Lena) in with her and Sven and all is well.  Add 
the QH or the App.things get crazy.

For a time I had Sven, Hasse and Miss Dottie Lottie (leapord app) at a farm 
nearby.  They often commented that there seemed to be no dominent horse and 
that they all got along beautifully.  

So, to keep everyone calm I seperate. Safer for handlers as well.

Isn't it funny though.take one of the herd away from the group and the ones 
that can't seem to get along fuss the most:)

Have a great day.it is so da** cold here today I am crazy!  
Way below zero :(

Linda in MN